On Apr 18, 7:22*am, Rob wrote:
On Apr 17, 1:40 pm, wrote:





On Apr 17, 10:45 am, Rob wrote:

Chess Cafe' writers have a collective tendency to
attack Polgar and Truong and anyone associated even in the slightest
with Chessville.

* Rob, this is about the most absurd thing you have ever written here,
and that's saying a mouthful. Did you actually bother to check
*_anything_* at ChessCafe.com before posting this idiocy??

* Susan Polgar has written a monthly column for ChessCafe since
mid-2002 -- nearly six years -- as anyone with eyes and a brain can
confirm he

*http://www.chesscafe.com/archives/ar...Polgar%20on%20....

* Can you provide specific examples in which Susan, as a ChessCafe
writer, has attacked herself?

* As a regular contributor to ChessCafe (about 130 book reviews and
several historical articles 1998-2007), I never wrote anything so much
as disagreeing with Susan Polgar, let along "attacking her."
* And though I have definitely been "associated even in the slightest
with Chessville," having been interviewed by Phil Innes some years
ago, I don't recall ever being attacked by any ChessCafe writer as a
result.
* As for other ChessCafe columnists attacking Polgar, I rather doubt
it. Again, I would ask that you present specific examples that support
your claim. However, since you have obviously made your claim without
even bothering to find out who ChessCafe's columnists are, let alone
actually reading what they have written, I seriously doubt you have
any specifics at all.

* This group has seen many examples of people inventing and attacking
things they never read, e.g. Sam Sloan's false statements about my
Keres articles, and Larry Parr faulting me for something I never wrote
but Larry Evans did. But this may just be the most ridiculous case of
all.

Let me modify my statement. "Chess Cafe' writers who regularly post on
RGC". There. I think that pretty much narrows it down.

Rob, below is a list of almost all regular ChessCafe columns and
their respective columnists, both past and present. Please indicate
which of these writers you believe "regularly post on RGC," as you put
it. Then, of that subset, please indicate which have demonstrated this
alleged "tendency to attack Polgar and Truong and anyone associated
even in the slightest with Chessville."
Specific quotes bearing out your claims would be helpful, if you
want to be believed, rather than just be branded a loose-mouthed
loonie:

Chess Mazes by Bruce Alberston
Over the Horizons by Stefan Bücker
Let's Take a Look by Nigel Davies
The Instructor by Mark Dvoretsky
An Arbiter's Notebook by Geurt Gijssen
Scholastic Chess by Steve Goldberg
Checkpoint by Carsten Hansen
The Kibitzer by Tim Harding
Novice Nook by Dan Heisman

ChessOK Cafe by Dadi Jonsson
Opening Lanes by Gary Lane
ChessBase Cafe by Steve Lopez
Endgame Corner by Karsten Müller
The Q & A Way by Bruce Pandolfini
Susan Polgar On Chess by Susan Polgar
Dutch Treat by Hans Ree
El Café del Ajedrez en Español by Juan Santa
Inside Chess by Yasser Seirawan
New Stories about Old Chess Players by Jeremy Spinrad
Hoisting the Hippopotamus by Alburt & Lawrence
View From Down Under by Chris Depasquale
The Wanderer by Mike Franett
A Chess Odyssey by Efstratios Grivas
Perspectives by Burt Hochberg
A Guided Tour of Chess by Tim Krabbé
Queen One by Susan Lalic
From the Sidelines by Hannes Langrock
The Miles Report by Tony Miles
The Gambit Cartel by Tim McGrew
Misha Interviews... by Misha Savinov
The Chess Coach by Sunil Weeramantry

On Apr 18, 10:56*am, wrote:
On Apr 18, 7:22*am, Rob wrote:





On Apr 17, 1:40 pm, wrote:

On Apr 17, 10:45 am, Rob wrote:

Chess Cafe' writers have a collective tendency to
attack Polgar and Truong and anyone associated even in the slightest
with Chessville.

* Rob, this is about the most absurd thing you have ever written here,
and that's saying a mouthful. Did you actually bother to check
*_anything_* at ChessCafe.com before posting this idiocy??

* Susan Polgar has written a monthly column for ChessCafe since
mid-2002 -- nearly six years -- as anyone with eyes and a brain can
confirm he

*http://www.chesscafe.com/archives/ar...Polgar%20on%20...

* Can you provide specific examples in which Susan, as a ChessCafe
writer, has attacked herself?

* As a regular contributor to ChessCafe (about 130 book reviews and
several historical articles 1998-2007), I never wrote anything so much
as disagreeing with Susan Polgar, let along "attacking her."
* And though I have definitely been "associated even in the slightest
with Chessville," having been interviewed by Phil Innes some years
ago, I don't recall ever being attacked by any ChessCafe writer as a
result.
* As for other ChessCafe columnists attacking Polgar, I rather doubt
it. Again, I would ask that you present specific examples that support
your claim. However, since you have obviously made your claim without
even bothering to find out who ChessCafe's columnists are, let alone
actually reading what they have written, I seriously doubt you have
any specifics at all.

* This group has seen many examples of people inventing and attacking
things they never read, e.g. Sam Sloan's false statements about my
Keres articles, and Larry Parr faulting me for something I never wrote
but Larry Evans did. But this may just be the most ridiculous case of
all.

Let me modify my statement. "Chess Cafe' writers who regularly post on
RGC". There. I think that pretty much narrows it down.

* Practically narrows it out of existence.

You all knew
what was ment. [sic]

* Really? No, Rob, we only know what you say, which was "Chess Cafe'
writers have a collective tendency to
attack Polgar and Truong and anyone associated even in the slightest
with Chessville."

* "Collective tendency" means that a majority of the group exhibit the
behavior. You have not named even one who does so.
* And who are these "Chess Cafe' writers who regularly post on RGC"?
If we include myself, even though I no longer write anything for
ChessCafe, how many is that? I'd say two: Jeremy Spinrad and me. Since
I seldom say much of anything about Susan Polgar, and have never even
bothered to disagree with her, let alone
attack her in writing, that leaves just one possible person: Spinrad.
* Temporarily accepting, just for the sake of argument, that Spinrad
may have attacked Polgar (and I really don't know if he has or not),
that leaves a total of one.

Actually, I can not be used as part of the reason in this context. The
original statement said that I was perhaps being unfairly blamed for
other chess cafe writers attacks on chessville.

I am, of course, waiting for Phil to retract his statement that I am
hiding the fact that I am an interested party in writing about Polgar.
I assert that this is simply wrong. He cannot justify this by some
revelation of how I have some interest in the case which I am unaware
of; he called on me to reveal the information to the newsgroup. I
frankly know of no personal interest I have in Polgar or Truong, and
if he says otherwise he is lying. As I have never hidden, I have a
chess cafe column, and am a life member of the USCF; I cannot imagine
what else he could be thinking about, if thinking is the right word.

Jerry Spinrad


* Now Rob, please explain to us how we get a "collective tendency"
from just one person?

But, true to form you attacked not the intent but
rather the form.

* No, Rob, I pointed out that your statement was completely false, and
that you had not the slightest knowledge of what you were talking
about. You didn't even know that Polgar herself has been a regular
ChessCafe columnist for nearly six years.- Hide quoted text -

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On Apr 18, 11:37 am, SBD wrote:
On Apr 18, 6:22 am, Rob wrote:



Let me modify my statement. "Chess Cafe' writers who regularly post on
RGC". There. I think that pretty much narrows it down. You all knew
what was ment. But, true to form you attacked not the intent but
rather the form. Congratulations on remaining consistent.

I don't think so Rob. It was a pretty sweeping statement, and I took
it at face value. Then I realized what you meant; however, could you
provide some examples of how CC writers who post on rgc "collectively"
attack Polgar and Truong? I am not sure they even do so singularly to
any degree; in fact, I don't know of any regular CC writers who even
post here.

Dr. Jeremy Spinrad posts here,. as well as Taylor Kingston. Taylor may
no longer write for Chess Cafe, sadly, but he has a long-time
connection to the site.

On Apr 18, 5:53 pm, "
I am, of course, waiting for Phil to retract his statement...

What a disgusting moment. A good chess historian CHOOSES to wrestle a
muddy pig.

Jerry, I warned you to avoid getting drawn into squabbles with this
Vermont nutcase. He's incapable of creating or contributing to chess;
you do, and I'd rather see you devote your time to chess history than
to arguing with a nonentity with nothing to say and unlimited
bandwidth to say it in.

And yes, I should follow my own advice.

On Apr 18, 3:12*pm, wrote:
On Apr 18, 7:22*am, Rob wrote:





On Apr 17, 1:40 pm, wrote:

On Apr 17, 10:45 am, Rob wrote:

Chess Cafe' writers have a collective tendency to
attack Polgar and Truong and anyone associated even in the slightest
with Chessville.

* Rob, this is about the most absurd thing you have ever written here,
and that's saying a mouthful. Did you actually bother to check
*_anything_* at ChessCafe.com before posting this idiocy??

* Susan Polgar has written a monthly column for ChessCafe since
mid-2002 -- nearly six years -- as anyone with eyes and a brain can
confirm he

*http://www.chesscafe.com/archives/ar...Polgar%20on%20...

* Can you provide specific examples in which Susan, as a ChessCafe
writer, has attacked herself?

* As a regular contributor to ChessCafe (about 130 book reviews and
several historical articles 1998-2007), I never wrote anything so much
as disagreeing with Susan Polgar, let along "attacking her."
* And though I have definitely been "associated even in the slightest
with Chessville," having been interviewed by Phil Innes some years
ago, I don't recall ever being attacked by any ChessCafe writer as a
result.
* As for other ChessCafe columnists attacking Polgar, I rather doubt
it. Again, I would ask that you present specific examples that support
your claim. However, since you have obviously made your claim without
even bothering to find out who ChessCafe's columnists are, let alone
actually reading what they have written, I seriously doubt you have
any specifics at all.

* This group has seen many examples of people inventing and attacking
things they never read, e.g. Sam Sloan's false statements about my
Keres articles, and Larry Parr faulting me for something I never wrote
but Larry Evans did. But this may just be the most ridiculous case of
all.

Let me modify my statement. "Chess Cafe' writers who regularly post on
RGC". There. I think that pretty much narrows it down.

* Rob, below is a list of almost all regular ChessCafe columns and
their respective columnists, both past and present. Please indicate
which of these writers you believe "regularly post on RGC," as you put
it. Then, of that subset, please indicate which have demonstrated this
alleged "tendency to attack Polgar and Truong and anyone associated
even in the slightest with Chessville."
* Specific quotes bearing out your claims would be helpful, if you
want to be believed, rather than just be branded a loose-mouthed
loonie:

Chess Mazes by Bruce Alberston
Over the Horizons by Stefan Bücker
Let's Take a Look by Nigel Davies
The Instructor by Mark Dvoretsky
An Arbiter's Notebook by Geurt Gijssen
Scholastic Chess by Steve Goldberg
Checkpoint by Carsten Hansen
The Kibitzer by Tim Harding
Novice Nook by Dan Heisman

ChessOK Cafe by Dadi Jonsson
Opening Lanes by Gary Lane
ChessBase Cafe by Steve Lopez
Endgame Corner by Karsten Müller
The Q & A Way by Bruce Pandolfini
Susan Polgar On Chess by Susan Polgar
Dutch Treat by Hans Ree
El Café del Ajedrez en Español by Juan Santa
Inside Chess by Yasser Seirawan
New Stories about Old Chess Players by Jeremy Spinrad
Hoisting the Hippopotamus by Alburt & Lawrence
View From Down Under by Chris Depasquale
The Wanderer by Mike Franett
A Chess Odyssey by Efstratios Grivas
Perspectives by Burt Hochberg
A Guided Tour of Chess by Tim Krabbé
Queen One by Susan Lalic
From the Sidelines by Hannes Langrock
The Miles Report by Tony Miles
The Gambit Cartel by Tim McGrew
Misha Interviews... by Misha Savinov
The Chess Coach by Sunil Weeramantry

So, Rob, I notice you have not replied here. And now after what
Jeremy Spinrad wrote above, it looks like you don't have even one
ChessCafe writer, whether or not he/she posts on rec.games.chess
newsgroups, who has any "tendency to attack Polgar and Truong and
anyone associated even in the slightest with Chessville."
To retain any shred of integrity, you must either prove your point,
or apologize. As Adlai Stevenson said to the Soviet ambassador, I am
prepared to wait until hell freezes over for your answer -- but I
seriously doubt you will ever give one.

On Apr 19, 6:04*pm, wrote:
On Apr 18, 3:12*pm, wrote:





On Apr 18, 7:22*am, Rob wrote:

On Apr 17, 1:40 pm, wrote:

On Apr 17, 10:45 am, Rob wrote:

Chess Cafe' writers have a collective tendency to
attack Polgar and Truong and anyone associated even in the slightest
with Chessville.

* Rob, this is about the most absurd thing you have ever written here,
and that's saying a mouthful. Did you actually bother to check
*_anything_* at ChessCafe.com before posting this idiocy??

* Susan Polgar has written a monthly column for ChessCafe since
mid-2002 -- nearly six years -- as anyone with eyes and a brain can
confirm he

*http://www.chesscafe.com/archives/ar...Polgar%20on%20...

* Can you provide specific examples in which Susan, as a ChessCafe
writer, has attacked herself?

* As a regular contributor to ChessCafe (about 130 book reviews and
several historical articles 1998-2007), I never wrote anything so much
as disagreeing with Susan Polgar, let along "attacking her."
* And though I have definitely been "associated even in the slightest
with Chessville," having been interviewed by Phil Innes some years
ago, I don't recall ever being attacked by any ChessCafe writer as a
result.
* As for other ChessCafe columnists attacking Polgar, I rather doubt
it. Again, I would ask that you present specific examples that support
your claim. However, since you have obviously made your claim without
even bothering to find out who ChessCafe's columnists are, let alone
actually reading what they have written, I seriously doubt you have
any specifics at all.

* This group has seen many examples of people inventing and attacking
things they never read, e.g. Sam Sloan's false statements about my
Keres articles, and Larry Parr faulting me for something I never wrote
but Larry Evans did. But this may just be the most ridiculous case of
all.

Let me modify my statement. "Chess Cafe' writers who regularly post on
RGC". There. I think that pretty much narrows it down.

* Rob, below is a list of almost all regular ChessCafe columns and
their respective columnists, both past and present. Please indicate
which of these writers you believe "regularly post on RGC," as you put
it. Then, of that subset, please indicate which have demonstrated this
alleged "tendency to attack Polgar and Truong and anyone associated
even in the slightest with Chessville."
* Specific quotes bearing out your claims would be helpful, if you
want to be believed, rather than just be branded a loose-mouthed
loonie:

Chess Mazes by Bruce Alberston
Over the Horizons by Stefan Bücker
Let's Take a Look by Nigel Davies
The Instructor by Mark Dvoretsky
An Arbiter's Notebook by Geurt Gijssen
Scholastic Chess by Steve Goldberg
Checkpoint by Carsten Hansen
The Kibitzer by Tim Harding
Novice Nook by Dan Heisman

ChessOK Cafe by Dadi Jonsson
Opening Lanes by Gary Lane
ChessBase Cafe by Steve Lopez
Endgame Corner by Karsten Müller
The Q & A Way by Bruce Pandolfini
Susan Polgar On Chess by Susan Polgar
Dutch Treat by Hans Ree
El Café del Ajedrez en Español by Juan Santa
Inside Chess by Yasser Seirawan
New Stories about Old Chess Players by Jeremy Spinrad
Hoisting the Hippopotamus by Alburt & Lawrence
View From Down Under by Chris Depasquale
The Wanderer by Mike Franett
A Chess Odyssey by Efstratios Grivas
Perspectives by Burt Hochberg
A Guided Tour of Chess by Tim Krabbé
Queen One by Susan Lalic
From the Sidelines by Hannes Langrock
The Miles Report by Tony Miles
The Gambit Cartel by Tim McGrew
Misha Interviews... by Misha Savinov
The Chess Coach by Sunil Weeramantry

* So, Rob, I notice you have not replied here. And now after what
Jeremy Spinrad wrote above, it looks like you don't have even one
ChessCafe writer, whether or not he/she posts on rec.games.chess
newsgroups, who has any "tendency to attack Polgar and Truong and
anyone associated even in the slightest with Chessville."
* To retain any shred of integrity, you must either prove your point,
or apologize. As Adlai Stevenson said to the Soviet ambassador, I am
prepared to wait until hell freezes over for your answer -- but I
seriously doubt you will ever give one.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Sorry,
I have been busy.. having a life. I don't read Chess Cafe'. I do know
that You, Taylor have shown a hostility towards Truong and Polgar and
Phil . I did not know that Jerry wrote for Chess Cafe'. His actions
will speak for themself. While Neil is not now or may never have been
a Chess Cafe writer, I would consider Chess Cafe's publishing of his
work to count. If I am wrong about anyones desire to attack Ms.
Polgar, Mr. Truong or Mr. Innes; then let them confess their support
publicly and I will withdraw my charges and admit my error. Now, I
have a birthday party to finish cleaning up after and a family to
attend to.

On Apr 20, 12:10 am, Rob wrote:
On Apr 19, 6:04 pm, wrote:



On Apr 18, 3:12 pm, wrote:

On Apr 18, 7:22 am, Rob wrote:

On Apr 17, 1:40 pm, wrote:

On Apr 17, 10:45 am, Rob wrote:

Chess Cafe' writers have a collective tendency to
attack Polgar and Truong and anyone associated even in the slightest
with Chessville.

Rob, this is about the most absurd thing you have ever written here,
and that's saying a mouthful. Did you actually bother to check
*_anything_* at ChessCafe.com before posting this idiocy??

Susan Polgar has written a monthly column for ChessCafe since
mid-2002 -- nearly six years -- as anyone with eyes and a brain can
confirm he

http://www.chesscafe.com/archives/ar...Polgar%20on%20...

Can you provide specific examples in which Susan, as a ChessCafe
writer, has attacked herself?

As a regular contributor to ChessCafe (about 130 book reviews and
several historical articles 1998-2007), I never wrote anything so much
as disagreeing with Susan Polgar, let along "attacking her."
And though I have definitely been "associated even in the slightest
with Chessville," having been interviewed by Phil Innes some years
ago, I don't recall ever being attacked by any ChessCafe writer as a
result.
As for other ChessCafe columnists attacking Polgar, I rather doubt
it. Again, I would ask that you present specific examples that support
your claim. However, since you have obviously made your claim without
even bothering to find out who ChessCafe's columnists are, let alone
actually reading what they have written, I seriously doubt you have
any specifics at all.

This group has seen many examples of people inventing and attacking
things they never read, e.g. Sam Sloan's false statements about my
Keres articles, and Larry Parr faulting me for something I never wrote
but Larry Evans did. But this may just be the most ridiculous case of
all.

Let me modify my statement. "Chess Cafe' writers who regularly post on
RGC". There. I think that pretty much narrows it down.

Rob, below is a list of almost all regular ChessCafe columns and
their respective columnists, both past and present. Please indicate
which of these writers you believe "regularly post on RGC," as you put
it. Then, of that subset, please indicate which have demonstrated this
alleged "tendency to attack Polgar and Truong and anyone associated
even in the slightest with Chessville."
Specific quotes bearing out your claims would be helpful, if you
want to be believed, rather than just be branded a loose-mouthed
loonie:

Chess Mazes by Bruce Alberston
Over the Horizons by Stefan Bücker
Let's Take a Look by Nigel Davies
The Instructor by Mark Dvoretsky
An Arbiter's Notebook by Geurt Gijssen
Scholastic Chess by Steve Goldberg
Checkpoint by Carsten Hansen
The Kibitzer by Tim Harding
Novice Nook by Dan Heisman

ChessOK Cafe by Dadi Jonsson
Opening Lanes by Gary Lane
ChessBase Cafe by Steve Lopez
Endgame Corner by Karsten Müller
The Q & A Way by Bruce Pandolfini
Susan Polgar On Chess by Susan Polgar
Dutch Treat by Hans Ree
El Café del Ajedrez en Español by Juan Santa
Inside Chess by Yasser Seirawan
New Stories about Old Chess Players by Jeremy Spinrad
Hoisting the Hippopotamus by Alburt & Lawrence
View From Down Under by Chris Depasquale
The Wanderer by Mike Franett
A Chess Odyssey by Efstratios Grivas
Perspectives by Burt Hochberg
A Guided Tour of Chess by Tim Krabbé
Queen One by Susan Lalic
From the Sidelines by Hannes Langrock
The Miles Report by Tony Miles
The Gambit Cartel by Tim McGrew
Misha Interviews... by Misha Savinov
The Chess Coach by Sunil Weeramantry

So, Rob, I notice you have not replied here. And now after what
Jeremy Spinrad wrote above, it looks like you don't have even one
ChessCafe writer, whether or not he/she posts on rec.games.chess
newsgroups, who has any "tendency to attack Polgar and Truong and
anyone associated even in the slightest with Chessville."
To retain any shred of integrity, you must either prove your point,
or apologize. As Adlai Stevenson said to the Soviet ambassador, I am
prepared to wait until hell freezes over for your answer -- but I
seriously doubt you will ever give one.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Sorry,
I have been busy.. having a life. I don't read Chess Cafe'. I do know
that You, Taylor have shown a hostility towards Truong and Polgar and
Phil . I did not know that Jerry wrote for Chess Cafe'. His actions
will speak for themself. While Neil is not now or may never have been
a Chess Cafe writer, I would consider Chess Cafe's publishing of his
work to count. If I am wrong about anyones desire to attack Ms.
Polgar, Mr. Truong or Mr. Innes; then let them confess their support
publicly and I will withdraw my charges and admit my error. Now, I
have a birthday party to finish cleaning up after and a family to
attend to.

You obviously are too busy to think, and not man enough to apologize
to Mr. Kingston and Dr. Spinrad, let alone to Chess Cafe. As for your
claim that three articles in ten years makes me a "Chess Cafe writer",
I'll accept that compliment. The articles published at Chess Cafe are
of such high quality that considering me a Chess Cafe writer is gilt
by association.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Association_fallacy

On Apr 20, 1:10*am, Rob wrote:
On Apr 19, 6:04*pm, wrote:





On Apr 18, 3:12*pm, wrote:

On Apr 18, 7:22*am, Rob wrote:

On Apr 17, 1:40 pm, wrote:

On Apr 17, 10:45 am, Rob wrote:

Chess Cafe' writers have a collective tendency to
attack Polgar and Truong and anyone associated even in the slightest
with Chessville.

* Rob, this is about the most absurd thing you have ever written here,
and that's saying a mouthful. Did you actually bother to check
*_anything_* at ChessCafe.com before posting this idiocy??

* Susan Polgar has written a monthly column for ChessCafe since
mid-2002 -- nearly six years -- as anyone with eyes and a brain can
confirm he

*http://www.chesscafe.com/archives/ar...Polgar%20on%20...

* Can you provide specific examples in which Susan, as a ChessCafe
writer, has attacked herself?

* As a regular contributor to ChessCafe (about 130 book reviews and
several historical articles 1998-2007), I never wrote anything so much
as disagreeing with Susan Polgar, let along "attacking her."
* And though I have definitely been "associated even in the slightest
with Chessville," having been interviewed by Phil Innes some years
ago, I don't recall ever being attacked by any ChessCafe writer as a
result.
* As for other ChessCafe columnists attacking Polgar, I rather doubt
it. Again, I would ask that you present specific examples that support
your claim. However, since you have obviously made your claim without
even bothering to find out who ChessCafe's columnists are, let alone
actually reading what they have written, I seriously doubt you have
any specifics at all.

* This group has seen many examples of people inventing and attacking
things they never read, e.g. Sam Sloan's false statements about my
Keres articles, and Larry Parr faulting me for something I never wrote
but Larry Evans did. But this may just be the most ridiculous case of
all.

Let me modify my statement. "Chess Cafe' writers who regularly post on
RGC". There. I think that pretty much narrows it down.

* Rob, below is a list of almost all regular ChessCafe columns and
their respective columnists, both past and present. Please indicate
which of these writers you believe "regularly post on RGC," as you put
it. Then, of that subset, please indicate which have demonstrated this
alleged "tendency to attack Polgar and Truong and anyone associated
even in the slightest with Chessville."
* Specific quotes bearing out your claims would be helpful, if you
want to be believed, rather than just be branded a loose-mouthed
loonie:

Chess Mazes by Bruce Alberston
Over the Horizons by Stefan Bücker
Let's Take a Look by Nigel Davies
The Instructor by Mark Dvoretsky
An Arbiter's Notebook by Geurt Gijssen
Scholastic Chess by Steve Goldberg
Checkpoint by Carsten Hansen
The Kibitzer by Tim Harding
Novice Nook by Dan Heisman

ChessOK Cafe by Dadi Jonsson
Opening Lanes by Gary Lane
ChessBase Cafe by Steve Lopez
Endgame Corner by Karsten Müller
The Q & A Way by Bruce Pandolfini
Susan Polgar On Chess by Susan Polgar
Dutch Treat by Hans Ree
El Café del Ajedrez en Español by Juan Santa
Inside Chess by Yasser Seirawan
New Stories about Old Chess Players by Jeremy Spinrad
Hoisting the Hippopotamus by Alburt & Lawrence
View From Down Under by Chris Depasquale
The Wanderer by Mike Franett
A Chess Odyssey by Efstratios Grivas
Perspectives by Burt Hochberg
A Guided Tour of Chess by Tim Krabbé
Queen One by Susan Lalic
From the Sidelines by Hannes Langrock
The Miles Report by Tony Miles
The Gambit Cartel by Tim McGrew
Misha Interviews... by Misha Savinov
The Chess Coach by Sunil Weeramantry

* So, Rob, I notice you have not replied here. And now after what
Jeremy Spinrad wrote above, it looks like you don't have even one
ChessCafe writer, whether or not he/she posts on rec.games.chess
newsgroups, who has any "tendency to attack Polgar and Truong and
anyone associated even in the slightest with Chessville."
* To retain any shred of integrity, you must either prove your point,
or apologize. As Adlai Stevenson said to the Soviet ambassador, I am
prepared to wait until hell freezes over for your answer -- but I
seriously doubt you will ever give one.- Hide quoted text -



Sorry,
I have been busy ... I don't read Chess Cafe'.

Then how could you possibly have any basis for this "collective
tendency" you claim to have observed among ChessCafe writers? How
could you even know who ChessCafe's writers are?

I do know
that You, Taylor have shown a hostility towards Truong and Polgar ...

Rob, which are you -- an idiot, or a liar? I have never shown any
hostility to Truong or Polgar. I very seldom say anything about
either, and I have never said anything negative about them.

I did not know that Jerry wrote for Chess Cafe'.

In that case, the number of candidates for your alleged "collective
tendency" just shrank from one to zero.

While Neil is not now or may never have been
a Chess Cafe writer, I would consider Chess Cafe's publishing of his
work to count.

What works of Neil Brennen has ChessCafe published? Or is this
another thing about which you know nothing?

If I am wrong about anyones desire to attack Ms.
Polgar, Mr. Truong or Mr. Innes; then let them confess their support
publicly and I will withdraw my charges and admit my error.

Why does anyone have to "confess support"? To be neutral about and
uninterested in Polar and Truong is hardly the same as attacking
them.
Rob, your error is blatant, and a public apology is your only decent
alternative.

On Apr 20, 5:07 am, wrote:

Rob, which are you -- an idiot, or a liar?

Why does he have to choose? Both labels fit, based upon his newsgroup
postings.

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On Apr 16, 7:48 pm, Mike Murray wrote:
On Wed, 16 Apr 2008 16:57:17 -0700 (PDT),
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wrote:

**cutting to the point:-

Here is what Phil said

Come on! Tell everyone what the board has received recently - and as
well as
Hanken I named you, didn't I? Could you state if you had an interest
in what
happened? That is publicly decent, ain't it? And my personal mail
contains
one post from Hanken who naturally spat and flew, but other mail
Jerry! From
people who are disgusted.

I am, actually, very curious as to what this is talking about. I had
an interest in what happened? My interests are in common with Jerry
Hanken, who I have never met? Any clues?

I really cannot see my connection. Everything I have said about the
FSS has been on this newsgroup. I write a column on chess history at
chesscafe, for which I receive a small amount of money.

** And what I asked of Jerry Hanken, and indeed all people who comment on
USCF's politics, is if they will admit an interest - which is to say - if
they make money or receive other consideration. This is apparently what is
'so hard to understand'.

I have no idea what the board received recently. Maybe someone else
can tell me what the board received, or what my interest was?

** Since I wrote in //these newsgroups// about money and other
considerations being received by commentators does not make them
'dissinterested' parties to the issue, then the CONTEXT is established
clear. Perhaps Jerry Spinrad has never heard the phrase, 'a disinterested
party'?

** I asked for fair and open declaration of the relationship of those who
receive any consideration whatever in connection with USCF activities. This
is what Jerry Spinrad professes so hard to understand, or even to
acknowledge is the question. If he does not think this is a fair request
then I presume he will reply to say so. When, as did Jerry Hanken, negative
and public speculations extend to the children of board members, I
personally think the public should know something about the speculator and
indeed the fulsomeness of their reporting.

**Certainly anyone pretending to journalism [CJA not excepted!] is obliged
by public and ethical standard to differentiate what is allegation from what
is found true. If matters have been investigated than does it not oblige the
candid reporter to also note the fact?

**Like many other people I would wish all to be in the open, including the
relationship of ALL those who would investige the issue in public or
private. And then I should wish for the chess public to make up their own
minds of 'who is telling the truth, and who is not.'

**Jerry Spinrad will chose to aver that propostion or continue to find its
clauses and precepts incomprehensible to him.

Phil Innes
Vermont
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Jerry Spinrad