"Bill Brock" wrote in message
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(Don Mihokovich) wrote in message
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From: illspam (NoMoreChess)
Date: 25/07/03 05:48 GMT Daylight Time
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Nick is quite mistaken here.

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Net Ettiquette states that you SHOULD snip all but the part to
which you
are
replying. IMO, that part was:


had you simply called Jerry Bibuld
... a ****ing moron.


The three dots "..." indicate that this is *not* a complete or
accurate quote.

If a publisher was habitually to pull a similar stunt by quoting only
*part* of
a review of a book on its dustjacket, like this:

"This book is...very good..."

Instead of what the reviewer actually wrote:

"This book is not very good at all."

...then that publisher would soon be out of business.

This is *exactly* what StanB did to Bourbaki.

Now NoMo is suggesting: "just a joke".

I leave it to the reader to decide.

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The above is ALL that is required in order to make the joke Stan
Booz made.


Like StanB before him, NoMo stoops to *distorting* the rules of these
groups in
order to *attack* Bourbaki.

Way to go.

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O.k. guys. This subject has been discussed ad nauseum, and the
election is over. Unless Tim makes some new "culturally prejudiced"
remarks that are newsworthy, why don't we just put this to rest? It's
time to try to work together.

KidDon

Don is right: without betraying our principles, we need to find the
fullest possible consensus.

Although we may have different reasons for believing it, can we all
agree that Jerry Bibuld is a ****ing moron and move on?

No, here we must part paths. I think he is much to old to be a ****ing
moron. More likely he just a moron.

He gets older but not better. --Mae West, regarding W.C. Fields

StanB

Mark Houlsby wrote:

(Don Mihokovich) wrote in message

O.k. guys. This subject has been discussed ad nauseum, and the
election is over. Unless Tim makes some new "culturally prejudiced"
remarks that are newsworthy, why don't we just put this to rest? It's
time to try to work together.

KidDon

Work together with whom? Work towards what?

Are you an irredeemable moron as well as a disingenuous troll?

YOU started the troll thread: "Tim Hanke's Cultural Prejudice".

You constantly misuse the word: troll.


Timothy Hanke started the troll thread: "Nick Bourbaki's many lies".

The fact is that Bourbaki has *never* lied in these groups. He's made
mistakes, his behaviour has been misguided on occasion (which of us
can say that we have not made mistakes? I know I cannot) but he has
*never* lied.

On the contrary. Both Tim Hanke and myself have been able
to quite clearly point out Nick's lying ways. The evidence
was plain for all to see. Your denial is nothing more than
a silly attempt to make yourself look good - which failed
miserably!


Unless Mr. Hanke can *substantiate* his accusation against Mr.
Bourbaki, then he must *withdraw* it and *apologise*.

LOL, who do you think you are? Newsgroup fuhrer? Heil Houlsby!


In case you haven't got this, yet: I am a Brit, and have ABSOLUTELY NO
INTEREST in this political crap. This means I have *nothing to lose*
by hanging out here.

Except your dignity. But you lost that months ago.


I'll be outa here as soon as Hanke, StanB and Briarroot make amends
for their unconscionable behaviour, however.

Promises, promises! I know this is a promise you'd never keep.


Do you understand this, Don, or should I use shorter words?

What we understand is that you have become all you once
railed against! Life is funny, ain't it? ;-)

Bill Brock wrote:

(Don Mihokovich) wrote in message
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O.k. guys. This subject has been discussed ad nauseum, and the
election is over. Unless Tim makes some new "culturally prejudiced"
remarks that are newsworthy, why don't we just put this to rest? It's
time to try to work together.

KidDon

Don is right: without betraying our principles, we need to find the
fullest possible consensus.

Although we may have different reasons for believing it, can we all
agree that Jerry Bibuld is a ****ing moron and move on?

Yup. Most of us already have moved on.

Mark Houlsby wrote:

Now I'm really not smart.

At long last you've said something I completely agree with!


Neither am I shrewd. Neither am I a politician.

You certainly aren't!


If I *was* a smart, shrewd politician, however, I think I'd know what
to do...

RGCP doesn't *belong* to you guys who are associated with the USCF.
You can't make *unprovoked* attacks against innocent foreigners and
expect to get away with it.

What about *provoked* attacks?


Unless of course, you're prepared to go to the length of issuing an
extradition treaty over this...

What's your next move, Mr. "Mensan with a Doctorate"? Will it be smart
or dumb?

Don't be such a dip****! Oops, too late.

Briarroot wrote in message ...
Mark Houlsby wrote:

Now I'm really not smart.

At long last you've said something I completely agree with!


Neither am I shrewd. Neither am I a politician.

You certainly aren't!


If I *was* a smart, shrewd politician, however, I think I'd know what
to do...

RGCP doesn't *belong* to you guys who are associated with the USCF.
You can't make *unprovoked* attacks against innocent foreigners and
expect to get away with it.

What about *provoked* attacks?


Give an example. Or more than one.

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"Mark Houlsby" wrote in message
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What about *provoked* attacks?

Give an example. Or more than one.

No examples are necessary. The thing speaks for itself. Every since you
bubbled up you've been in one spat after another.

StanB

Mark Houlsby wrote:

Briarroot wrote in message ...
Mark Houlsby wrote:

Now I'm really not smart.

At long last you've said something I completely agree with!


Neither am I shrewd. Neither am I a politician.

You certainly aren't!


If I *was* a smart, shrewd politician, however, I think I'd know what
to do...

RGCP doesn't *belong* to you guys who are associated with the USCF.
You can't make *unprovoked* attacks against innocent foreigners and
expect to get away with it.

What about *provoked* attacks?


Give an example. Or more than one.

What? Have you lost your memory, all of a sudden?

-remove- (Mhoulsby) wrote in message ...
From: "StanB"
Date: 25/07/03 13:41 GMT Daylight Time
Message-id:
What do you expect from some guy whose pidgin English is limited to
plagiarizing a lot of belles-lettres.
StanB

What you've written here, Stan, is a contradiction in terms.

Dear Mr. Houlsby,

Whatever his personal failings, such as his racism, StanB is a proudly
flag-waving white American. Accordingly, StanB seems to be considered
"one of our own" by his fellow American political activists here and
consequently perhaps beyond reproach from any outsiders such as you or me.

As a literary critic, StanB has made an ad hominem attack on Samuel Johnson
as well as on me. I consider myself honoured to have been placed in Doctor
Johnson's good company.

--Nick

(Don Mihokovich) wrote in message . com...
O.k. guys. This subject has been discussed ad nauseum, and the
election is over. Unless Tim makes some new "culturally prejudiced"
remarks that are newsworthy, why don't we just put this to rest? It's
time to try to work together.

"La politique c'est comme l'andouillette, ca doit sentir un peu la merde,
mais pas trop."
--Edouard Herriot (1872-1957)

Mr. Mihokovich,

I write on behalf of myself, no one else. Mark Houlsby and I have expressed
our differences at times, lately in the thread, "Alexander Zaitsev".

I have no interest in USCF politics; I did not follow the USCF election.
I don't care about the perpetual conflicts among the USCF Executive Board
members (or candidate members)--past, present, or future. I expect that
the USCF Executive Board's decisions, whatever they might be, will have no
influence on my enjoyment of chess.

I don't know much about you. As far as I have noticed, you seem to be a
USCF politician (or a political activist), who tends to act, as most
politicians do, according to political expediency.

Before the USCF election, you created this thread, "Tim Hanke's Cultural
Prejudice", and cross-posted it from rec.games.chess.politics (where it
belonged) to rec.games.chess.misc (where I became aware of it) in order,
evidently, to make a political campaign attack on Tim Hanke.

After the USCF election, you seem to have decided that it's expedient to
embrace Tim Hanke and his supporters. Recently, you created the widely
(and unnecessarily) cross-posted off-topic thread, "Core Values", in order,
evidently, to make a "flag-waving" attack on Noah Roberts. By the way, can
you please explain why the readers of rec.games.chess.computer should take
interest in the ongoing arguments about the values of the United States flag?

Here's my primary interest in this matter:

Tim Hanke created the thread, "Nick Bourbaki's Many Lies", to make a baseless
ad hominem attack on me. Tim Hanke has *not* provided evidence of my alleged
"many lies" about him. Also, Tim Hanke has *not* retracted his accusation,
and Tim Hanke has *not* apologised. Although perhaps not in your eyes,
Tim Hanke's misbehaviour brings dishonour only to him, none to me.

I have no connection to USCF politics. Mark Houlsby often has asked Tim
Hanke and his zealous supporters, Briarroot and StanB, why they continue
to make ad hominem attacks on me, when I could not care less about whatever
they do in rec.games.chess.politics--as long as they leave my name out of it.
As far as I know, Mark Houlsby has not received an explanation from them.
My impression is that Mark Houlsby has decided to write many posts in my
defence not because he always agrees with me (sometimes we have disagreed
on specific issues in public here) but because he regards me as a honest
writer who has been unjustly and flagrantly abused.

I have no interest whatsoever in the personal lives or careers of anyone
else who writes here. I don't understand why persons such as StanB and
Briarroot, who has written at length about it, seem to have become so
obsessed in speculating about my personal identity and national origin(s).

If Tim Hanke, StanB, and Briarroot are each ready to make full unqualified
retractions of and apologies for their many abusive statements to and about
me, then they will be free, as far as I am concerned, to fight with their
USCF political enemies to their hearts' content without any interference
from me. I reserve the right to respond to anything that they already have
written to or about me. If they stop writing to or about me, then I shall
stop after I have completed my responses.

I cannot promise that whatever I may write will conform to your latest
perceived political interests. That may disappoint you, but most politicians
have to learn to live with disappointments.

"'It's always best on these occasions to do what the mob do.'
'But suppose there are two mobs?' 'Shout with the largest.'"
--Charles Dickens (Pickwick Papers)

--Nick

(Don Mihokovich) wrote in message . com...

**snips galore**

I am a Mensan with a Doctoral degree; and am a partner in a @200
lawyer law firm in which I specialize in complex commercial litigation
matters. I am making a call for peace. Do you understand this Mark,
or are you a total moron?

KidDon

Is it possible that the relationship between Mensa membership and ELO
rating is an inverse one?

http://www.64.com/uscf/ratings/12868376

Or (more likely) is this the rating of another family member?

In either case, it's significantly higher than my initial rating of
930!