-remove- (Mhoulsby) wrote in message ...
From: (Don Mihokovich)
Date: 01/08/03 19:59 GMT Daylight Time
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__________________________________________
O.k. guys. This subject has been discussed ad nauseum, and the
election is over. Unless Tim makes some new "culturally prejudiced"
remarks that are newsworthy, why don't we just put this to rest?
It's
time to try to work together.

KidDon

Work together with whom? Work towards what?

Are you an irredeemable moron as well as a disingenuous troll?

YOU started the troll thread: "Tim Hanke's Cultural Prejudice".

Timothy Hanke started the troll thread: "Nick Bourbaki's many lies".

The fact is that Bourbaki has *never* lied in these groups. He's made
mistakes, his behaviour has been misguided on occasion (which of us
can say that we have not made mistakes? I know I cannot) but he has
*never* lied.

Unless Mr. Hanke can *substantiate* his accusation against Mr.
Bourbaki, then he must *withdraw* it and *apologise*.

In case you haven't got this, yet: I am a Brit, and have ABSOLUTELY NO
INTEREST in this political crap. This means I have *nothing to lose*
by hanging out here.

I'll be outa here as soon as Hanke, StanB and Briarroot make amends
for their unconscionable behaviour, however.

Do you understand this, Don, or should I use shorter words?

Mark
_________________________________
Don't start on me Mark, and don't even attempt to insult my intellect.
I am a Mensan with a Doctoral degree; and am a partner in a @200
lawyer law firm in which I specialize in complex commercial litigation
matters. I am making a call for peace. Do you understand this Mark,
or are you a total moron?

KidDon

Dear Mr. Mihokovich,

If you're threatening me then you'd better be prepared to carry out
your threat.

Go right ahead, smart guy... send an extradition treaty to England why
dontcha?

On the other hand, if you're *really* making a call for peace, (and I
would *much* prefer that) then the *only* person who can make peace
with me is Timothy
Hanke, who *started* this *completely unprovoked* flame war, and who
you now claim to support.

Now I'm really not smart. I'm not a Mensan. I don't have a doctorate.

Neither am I shrewd. Neither am I a politician.

If I *was* a smart, shrewd politician, however, I think I'd know what
to do...

RGCP doesn't *belong* to you guys who are associated with the USCF.
You can't make *unprovoked* attacks against innocent foreigners and
expect to get away with it.

Unless of course, you're prepared to go to the length of issuing an
extradition treaty over this...

What's your next move, Mr. "Mensan with a Doctorate"? Will it be smart
or dumb?

Mark Houlsby

___________________________________

Now that sounds completely moronic. There is no threat in my post.
Even if there were, an "extradition treaty" is an agreement between
Sovereign Nations, not something you or I could issue.

KidDon

p.s. For whatever it is worth, the US and UK already have an
extradition treaty.
http://members.freespeech.org/irishp...ion_treaty.htm

peace,

don


Idiot. I already corrected this, he

http://makeashorterlink.com/?K34926675

You wanna try again, troll??

peace yourself,

Mark
__________________________________
Your "correction" is still wrong, but I would expect that of you.

peace,

don

..
Now that sounds completely moronic. There is no threat in my post.


In addition to not being particularly bright, Houlsby seems very paranoid in
his hyper-defensive rection to a simple call for peace.

It's looks as though he feels outnumbered, surrounded, and ganged-up on --
even by those who do not support the dreaded right-wing, flag-waving trio he
depises.
Caveat: I am not really a psychologist, although I play one on TV.





Go right ahead, smart guy... send an extradition treaty to England why
dontcha?


Mark has already corrected this to extradition *order,* which again, tends to
show just how paranoid he can be.

One does not extradite "criminals" whose "crime" consists in timing their
attempted interruption of a flamewar, such that one of the participants (here,
Mark Houlsby) is inconvenienced. The prisons are already overcrowded, as it
is!




RGCP doesn't *belong* to you guys who are associated with the USCF.


Fair enough. But who ever said that it did?

From: (Don Mihokovich)
Date: 02/08/03 03:01 GMT Daylight Time
Message-id:

-remove- (Mhoulsby) wrote in message
...
From: (Don Mihokovich)
Date: 01/08/03 19:59 GMT Daylight Time
Message-id:

snip
__________________________________________
O.k. guys. This subject has been discussed ad nauseum, and the
election is over. Unless Tim makes some new "culturally
prejudiced"
remarks that are newsworthy, why don't we just put this to rest?
It's
time to try to work together.

KidDon

Work together with whom? Work towards what?

Are you an irredeemable moron as well as a disingenuous troll?

YOU started the troll thread: "Tim Hanke's Cultural Prejudice".

Timothy Hanke started the troll thread: "Nick Bourbaki's many lies".

The fact is that Bourbaki has *never* lied in these groups. He's
made
mistakes, his behaviour has been misguided on occasion (which of us
can say that we have not made mistakes? I know I cannot) but he has
*never* lied.

Unless Mr. Hanke can *substantiate* his accusation against Mr.
Bourbaki, then he must *withdraw* it and *apologise*.

In case you haven't got this, yet: I am a Brit, and have ABSOLUTELY
NO
INTEREST in this political crap. This means I have *nothing to lose*
by hanging out here.

I'll be outa here as soon as Hanke, StanB and Briarroot make amends
for their unconscionable behaviour, however.

Do you understand this, Don, or should I use shorter words?

Mark
_________________________________
Don't start on me Mark, and don't even attempt to insult my intellect.
I am a Mensan with a Doctoral degree; and am a partner in a @200
lawyer law firm in which I specialize in complex commercial litigation
matters. I am making a call for peace. Do you understand this Mark,
or are you a total moron?

KidDon

Dear Mr. Mihokovich,

If you're threatening me then you'd better be prepared to carry out
your threat.

Go right ahead, smart guy... send an extradition treaty to England why
dontcha?

On the other hand, if you're *really* making a call for peace, (and I
would *much* prefer that) then the *only* person who can make peace
with me is Timothy
Hanke, who *started* this *completely unprovoked* flame war, and who
you now claim to support.

Now I'm really not smart. I'm not a Mensan. I don't have a doctorate.

Neither am I shrewd. Neither am I a politician.

If I *was* a smart, shrewd politician, however, I think I'd know what
to do...

RGCP doesn't *belong* to you guys who are associated with the USCF.
You can't make *unprovoked* attacks against innocent foreigners and
expect to get away with it.

Unless of course, you're prepared to go to the length of issuing an
extradition treaty over this...

What's your next move, Mr. "Mensan with a Doctorate"? Will it be smart
or dumb?

Mark Houlsby

___________________________________

Now that sounds completely moronic. There is no threat in my post.
Even if there were, an "extradition treaty" is an agreement between
Sovereign Nations, not something you or I could issue.

KidDon

p.s. For whatever it is worth, the US and UK already have an
extradition treaty.
http://members.freespeech.org/irishp...ion_treaty.htm

peace,

don


Idiot. I already corrected this, he

http://makeashorterlink.com/?K34926675

You wanna try again, troll??

peace yourself,

Mark
__________________________________
Your "correction" is still wrong, but I would expect that of you.

peace,

don


Ok, then... how is it wrong?

peace yourself,

Mark

..
Your "correction" is still wrong, but I would expect that of you.


Ok, then... how is it wrong?


I am going to venture a guess (not being a mensan lawyer genius doctor from
Oxford):
extradition *request*?
After all, how does one *order* another country to hand over their prisoner,
as if the penalty for failure to comply would be...war? In that case, there
would be no such treaties. The USA would simply issue extradition ORDERS and
the other countries would quickly comply! ;-)




No, seriously, I think the confusion has resulted from paranoid self-delusion
on the part of Mr. Houlsby, wherein he has taken his comment that he "has
nothing to lose by hanging out here," and somehow imagined that Don's "call for
peace" was in some way a threat. to disprove the part, "nothing to lose".
I'm serious. I believe Houlsby has somehow twisted the facts in precisely this
way, for no other explanation of his "logic" makes any sense.




BTW, I have seen the latest edition of Mark's "troll" list, and everyone I
ever knew is on it. For a copy, send a SASE and $15 for the full set (fifteen
floppies). Or I could just post here the only two names which are not on his
list (Mark Houlsby and Nick Bourbaki).
Reminds me of "The Waltons," a TV series where there were two sisters who
thought everyone in the world but themselves were "pixilated."

From: (Don Mihokovich)
Date: 03/08/03 15:18 GMT Daylight Time
Message-id:

-remove- (Mhoulsby) wrote in message
...
From: (Don Mihokovich)
Date: 02/08/03 03:01 GMT Daylight Time
Message-id:

-remove- (Mhoulsby) wrote in message
...
From: (Don Mihokovich)
Date: 01/08/03 19:59 GMT Daylight Time
Message-id:

snip
__________________________________________
O.k. guys. This subject has been discussed ad nauseum, and the
election is over. Unless Tim makes some new "culturally
prejudiced"
remarks that are newsworthy, why don't we just put this to
rest?
It's
time to try to work together.

KidDon

Work together with whom? Work towards what?

Are you an irredeemable moron as well as a disingenuous troll?

YOU started the troll thread: "Tim Hanke's Cultural Prejudice".

Timothy Hanke started the troll thread: "Nick Bourbaki's many
lies".

The fact is that Bourbaki has *never* lied in these groups. He's
made
mistakes, his behaviour has been misguided on occasion (which of
us
can say that we have not made mistakes? I know I cannot) but he
has
*never* lied.

Unless Mr. Hanke can *substantiate* his accusation against Mr.
Bourbaki, then he must *withdraw* it and *apologise*.

In case you haven't got this, yet: I am a Brit, and have
ABSOLUTELY
NO
INTEREST in this political crap. This means I have *nothing to
lose*
by hanging out here.

I'll be outa here as soon as Hanke, StanB and Briarroot make
amends
for their unconscionable behaviour, however.

Do you understand this, Don, or should I use shorter words?

Mark
_________________________________
Don't start on me Mark, and don't even attempt to insult my
intellect.
I am a Mensan with a Doctoral degree; and am a partner in a @200
lawyer law firm in which I specialize in complex commercial
litigation
matters. I am making a call for peace. Do you understand this
Mark,
or are you a total moron?

KidDon

Dear Mr. Mihokovich,

If you're threatening me then you'd better be prepared to carry out
your threat.

Go right ahead, smart guy... send an extradition treaty to England
why
dontcha?

On the other hand, if you're *really* making a call for peace, (and I
would *much* prefer that) then the *only* person who can make peace
with me is Timothy
Hanke, who *started* this *completely unprovoked* flame war, and who
you now claim to support.

Now I'm really not smart. I'm not a Mensan. I don't have a doctorate.


Neither am I shrewd. Neither am I a politician.

If I *was* a smart, shrewd politician, however, I think I'd know what
to do...

RGCP doesn't *belong* to you guys who are associated with the USCF.
You can't make *unprovoked* attacks against innocent foreigners and
expect to get away with it.

Unless of course, you're prepared to go to the length of issuing an
extradition treaty over this...

What's your next move, Mr. "Mensan with a Doctorate"? Will it be
smart
or dumb?

Mark Houlsby

___________________________________

Now that sounds completely moronic. There is no threat in my post.
Even if there were, an "extradition treaty" is an agreement between
Sovereign Nations, not something you or I could issue.

KidDon

p.s. For whatever it is worth, the US and UK already have an
extradition treaty.
http://members.freespeech.org/irishp...ion_treaty.htm

peace,

don


Idiot. I already corrected this, he

http://makeashorterlink.com/?K34926675

You wanna try again, troll??

peace yourself,

Mark
__________________________________
Your "correction" is still wrong, but I would expect that of you.

peace,

don


Ok, then... how is it wrong?

peace yourself,

Mark
____________________________
Numerous ways, but I usually don't give free legal advice.

don


Ok, then.

Let's take a step back and look at what we've accomplished so far.

1) You've asked me to end the flame war started by Timothy Hanke, when in fact
only *Hanke* can end it, since it is he who chooses to continue to escalate it,
whenever the inclination grips him.

2) You've started *another* troll thread (this one) in which you describe my
posts as "moronic". Are they really? Ignorant... quite likely... stupid...
entirely possible.
Moronic... I leave it to the reader to judge.

3) You make a big issue out of my being ignorant of legal terminology (which I
freely admit) but when I ask you to correct me, you say you don't give free
"legal advice". Was I *asking* for your legal advice?

So, we've established that you're a *misguided troll* who's *behaving like a
pompous idiot*.

I happen to believe that you're *not* in *fact* a pompous idiot, but heck, what
do I know?

Upon one question we *are* agreed - this flame war should end.

Only one person can end it, therefore what should you do?

You're the brains, you figure it out...

Have a nice day, now!

Mark

"Mhoulsby" -remove- wrote in message
...

I happen to believe that you're *not* in *fact* a pompous idiot, but heck,
what
do I know?

Other than Nick, who are your friends here? Who here respects you?

StanB

From: "StanB"
Date: 03/08/03 21:46 GMT Daylight Time
Message-id:


"Mhoulsby" -remove- wrote in message
...

Other than Nick, who are your friends here? Who here respects you?

Nick is not my friend. It's obvious that, true to form, you haven't been
paying
attention.

If you had, you would have known that already.

Do you ever post anything that isn't wrong in some way?

Didn't say he was. BTW you dodged the question.

StanB



I didn't dodge the question. I pointed out that it's the *wrong* question:

wrong in intent

wrong in substance

wrong in detail

wrong

....but that's you all over, isn't it?

Mark

"Mhoulsby" -remove- wrote in message
...

Other than Nick, who are your friends here? Who here respects you?

Nick is not my friend. It's obvious that, true to form, you haven't
been
paying
attention.

If you had, you would have known that already.

Do you ever post anything that isn't wrong in some way?

Didn't say he was. BTW you dodged the question.

I didn't dodge the question. I pointed out that it's the *wrong* question:

wrong in intent

wrong in substance

wrong in detail

wrong

...but that's you all over, isn't it?

BTW you dodged the question. Again.

StanB

Briarroot wrote in message ...
So Nick, when are you going to tell us where you're from?

In the thread, "A new enemy of Lev Khariton" (9 July 2003), Briarroot wrote
to me: "Now this I readily admit to. You deserve to be insulted, roundly
and repeatedly. I consider it my duty to expose you..."

Anyone who's not deranged should be able to understand why Briarroot's demand
that I reveal personal information to him does not warrant any response beyond
disdain.

We'd really like to see whether the average person in *your*
home country is as ignorant about all the atrocities committed
by *your* governments over the course of its entire history, as
you claim the average American is about American history.
Let's make a comparison, shall we? The readers of r.g.c.m. are
waiting eagerly to thank you for enlightening us about the state
of education in *your* homeland.

Briarroot seems obsessed in his mission to track down my "homeland".
As a jingoistic American, Briarroot seems to believe that I or everyone
else in the world must have similar feelings of national chauvinism.

Here's a suggestion on how Briarroot can fulfill his avowed duty to insult me:
Briarroot could purchase a collection of all national flags in the world.
Then Briarroot could burn every one of them but his own, the United States's.
Briarroot could repeat this procedure until he begins to feel better (or until
more effective medication takes effect).

Caveat: Free medical advice should be heeded at one's own risk.

"Threats are seldom of avail to bring a man back to reason.
One does not become angry with a madman."
--Anthony Trollope (He Knew He Was Right)

--Nick

Nick (The Liar) wrote:

Briarroot wrote in message
...
So Nick, when are you going to tell us where you're from?

In the thread, "A new enemy of Lev Khariton" (9 July 2003), Briarroot wrote
to me: "Now this I readily admit to. You deserve to be insulted, roundly
and repeatedly. I consider it my duty to expose you..."

Anyone who's not deranged should be able to understand why Briarroot's
demand
that I reveal personal information to him does not warrant any response
beyond disdain.

Personal information? Stop lying. You know why I want to
know where your from, it's written just below. You continue
to duck the question. We all know why. It doesn't suit your
chosen role as propagandist to allow counterpoint to appear
alongside your list of American crimes.

We'd really like to see whether the average person in *your*
home country is as ignorant about all the atrocities committed
by *your* governments over the course of its entire history, as
you claim the average American is about American history.
Let's make a comparison, shall we? The readers of r.g.c.m. are
waiting eagerly to thank you for enlightening us about the state
of education in *your* homeland.

Briarroot seems obsessed in his mission to track down my "homeland".
As a jingoistic American, Briarroot seems to believe that I or everyone
else in the world must have similar feelings of national chauvinism.

Again, the wily propagandist wishes to introduce a new note to
the discussion: obsession. Who is supposed to be obsessed? Why
little old Briarroot, that's who. Why? Because he refuses to lie
down before Nick's campaign to seemingly list every American war
crime ever committed, or even suggested by the worst revisionists
in print. No one urged Nick to begin this campaign. No, Nick has
told us that he began this to counter what he considers "right-wing,
flag waving, jingoistic, racist Americans" Those are his own words.
Who is the more obsessive? Nick, or me?


Here's a suggestion on how Briarroot can fulfill his avowed duty to insult me:
Briarroot could purchase a collection of all national flags in the world.
Then Briarroot could burn every one of them but his own, the United States's.
Briarroot could repeat this procedure until he begins to feel better (or until
more effective medication takes effect).

So you consider that it would be an insult to you if I listed
every single war crime committed by your home country? How
revealing. Now you know how I feel about your doing the same
thing with American war crimes. Now we can all see why you
continue your campaign: you wish to insult the American readers
of this forum, or rather just those you consider to be "right-wing,
flag waving, jingoistic, racist Americans"

Caveat: Free medical advice should be heeded at one's own risk.

I suggest the doctor seek some of his own prescribed treatment.


"Threats are seldom of avail to bring a man back to reason.
One does not become angry with a madman."
--Anthony Trollope (He Knew He Was Right)

Too right. I would have offered you pity, if you had not proven
to be so unethical, dishonest and hypocritical.