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From chessdiscussion:
by Engelbert on Wed Apr 23, 2008 7:15 pm The people who are behind this smutty stuff are Sam Sloan and Brian Lafferty. Lafferty tried to post this grimy rubbish in any place which he has not been banned. This guy created similar chaos before with the cycling people. Didn't someone say that Lafferty is a good friend of Alarie and she asked Sloan for advice? If true then I wonder if she repudiates both of them. :? She is way above them or at least she should be. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Well Englebert, lets look at the facts as I know them from court records and conversation with Ms. Polgar's ex-husband. And please do take notice that I was not the one who resurrected this topic here on rgcp. But since you have clearly draggeed me into it on a discussion forum owned and controlled by Paul Truong, I will respond here. Mr. Truong writes on chessdiscussion: -------------------------------------------------------------------------- No word can possibly describe you. What I find even more sickening is there are actually a few derange people who pay attention to your garbage. There is absolutely no truth to this nonsense. During a child custody battle, the side which was ruled against made some wild charges hoping to have some past court decisions relating to the case reversed. There is not even an ounce of truth to the allegations. A family court judge made a temporary order while waiting for an investigation to be done and the order was promptly lifted once the facts came out A thorough investigation was done by child protective services and they concluded that there was absolutely no truth to the allegations. In fact, the children clearly stated numerous times to the law guardian and the representatives from child protective services that they were told to say this and they would get lots of toys if they do. They were around 6 and 7 years old at that time. Even the children’s teacher testified in court that there was absolutely no truth to this because the children told her what actually happened. Not a single person corroborated with the person who made these false charges. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ The person, unnamed by Mr. Truong, who made a "charge" against Mr. Truong and Ms. Polgar was the Guardian ad Litem appointed by the court to represent the children. Mr. Schutzman told me that the children told the Guardian, in private, that hey had been hot sauced and corporally disciplined by Mr. Truong to make them study chess. Mr. Truong disputes that. We have Mr. Truong's version of subsequent events which, given Mr. Truong's past statements and representations, must be taken with a degree of skepticism absent real evidence. What we do have is a copy of a court order as set out in this thread. Mr. Schutzman advised me that the court's order was vacated on consent under the advice of his then counsel; advice which Mr. Schutzman says he regrets having followed. What did the teacher say the children said happened? Under what circumstances did that discussion take place? To what degree was it at variance with what the children said in the privacy of the Guardian ad Litem's presence? I should point out that it is not unusual for children's allegations such as these to be unsupported by testimony or physical evidence. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ALL CHARGES WERE DROPPED. In fact, the same person who made these bogus charges agreed to drop the charges. But what do you care about the truth, right? ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- This is a bit of hyperbole on Mr. Truong's part. Mr. Truong, did the Guardian ad Litem withdraw his report to the court as to what the children told her? Or, Mr. Truong, are you referring to the vacating of the protective order on consent of the court and the children's father? The problem Mr. Truong, is that you have a very poor track record for openness, transparency and accuracy of statements. This unfortunate set of circumstances is but one example. The question scholastic parents should simply ask themselves is, "Would I allow my child to be alone with my Truong and if so, under what circumstances?" Answers may vary. |
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On Apr 24, 10:33 am, wrote:
From chessdiscussion: by Engelbert on Wed Apr 23, 2008 7:15 pm The people who are behind this smutty stuff are Sam Sloan and Brian Lafferty. Lafferty tried to post this grimy rubbish in any place which he has not been banned. This guy created similar chaos before with the cycling people. Didn't someone say that Lafferty is a good friend of Alarie and she asked Sloan for advice? If true then I wonder if she repudiates both of them. :? She is way above them or at least she should be. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- I should add for Mr. Englebert's edification that the only forums on which I have been banned are the Trolgar outlets and mouthpieces, chessdiscussion.com, Chessville's forum and, apparently, the Polgar Blog where my posts are pulled when they appear signed by me. BL |
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On Apr 24, 9:45 am, wrote:
On Apr 24, 10:33 am, wrote: From chessdiscussion: by Engelbert on Wed Apr 23, 2008 7:15 pm The people who are behind this smutty stuff are Sam Sloan and Brian Lafferty. Lafferty tried to post this grimy rubbish in any place which he has not been banned. This guy created similar chaos before with the cycling people. Didn't someone say that Lafferty is a good friend of Alarie and she asked Sloan for advice? If true then I wonder if she repudiates both of them. :? She is way above them or at least she should be. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- I should add for Mr. Englebert's edification that the only forums on which I have been banned are the Trolgar outlets and mouthpieces, chessdiscussion.com, Chessville's forum and, apparently, the Polgar Blog where my posts are pulled when they appear signed by me. BL Keep in mind Chessvile generally bans anything that might reflect negatively on the Trollgars. The post below was pulled after 12 hours: **************** From: chesstacular 11:03 pm To: ALL (1 of 1) 4763.1 A recall petition seeing the recall of Paul Truong has been sent to USCF Delegates. The petition can be found at http://www.chesspals.com/Truong%20Re...tion%20PDF.pdf Discussion anyone? Options Reply Delete Edit ******************* |
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Ms. Polgar speaks:
from chessdiscussion by SusanPolgar on Thu Apr 24, 2008 2:14 pm Donna IS above them. I do not always agree with her decisions or actions but in this instance, she courageously spoke out against this disgusting tactic, even against her own supporters. Here is what she wrote: "Please provide where those documents are listed in the public domain - other than where you put them there. Is this not a Family Court action in which case, actions are usually kept sealed to protect the kids? Do you really think that Child Protective Services would have allowed the children to be moved if there was a danger to them? You are so utterly and completely out of line with this that words cannot begin to describe the disgust it creates. You have not appreciated it when others have attacked you for the "kidnapping" of your own children or alleged that you are a "child molester" and yet you don't seem to hesitate to put forth the notion that Ms. Polgar is a child abuser. This smear tactic is abhorrent on its face. Do the right thing and stop promoting this libel. In fact, do the better thing and apologize for involving yourself in Ms. Polgar's personal life - it's none of your damn business or USCF's or mine. In fact, do me one better and delete me from your email list. Donna Alarie" ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- As I explained to Donna Alarie, protective orders such as the one issued here are generally given to schools, day care providers, landlords--anyone who might need to know what has been ordered to protect the child. I don't believe everyone will agree with the position that such matters are not relevant. For people such as Ms. Polgar who claims to adhere to a higher moral standard, such facts do tarnish the image of sainthood. When one injects oneself into the politics of the USCF, one loses ones expectation of a certain level of privacy. Mr. Sloan found this out and had the facts of his custody case raised against him by none other than Trolgar and their minions. For them to complain when they are faced with disclosure of image harming facts is hypocritical at best, disingenuous in the extreme. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- She deserves to be praised for this. Some people know full well that it is purely a malicious distortion and fabrication but decided to keep quiet because it fits their political scheme. I definitely did not condone the many actions of Jerry Hanken but I removed the vicious questions about his conduct from years ago, even though it was true. The problem is there are some who want to be in power so badly that they are willing cross any boundary to achieve it. The USCF PAID attorney also asked the board to “investigate” these bogus charges against my husband and me as an attempt to get rid of us. If this is false, I challenge the board majority to state publicly that this never happened. They did not deny this. And the members have to pay for this cost. As I said before, not a single board member publicly spoke out to stop these lies or ask their people to back off. This is why the USCF is in its position right now. Instead of doing everything possible and uniting everyone who is qualified to help save the USCF, these repulsive political tactics are being used against people who want positive changes for the USCF. And people wonder why so many good people continue to walk out on the USCF and why this federation continues to have massive losses. Some people fault me for going against the board majority. No, I am not going against them. I am going against the politics as usual status quo, the failing system, the incompetence, the inefficiency, the lack of energy and enthusiasm, and the countless other causes which contribute to the demise of this federation. This federation needs an energy boost and a new direction. The same old status quo is failing miserably. As long as these people continue to put the USCF in more financial and legal jeopardy, I will continue to speak out. All members need to know what our elected officials are doing with their money. We all deserve better for our national federation. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Yada, yada, yada. Anything else new in Trolgarland Miss Susie? ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------- |
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