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GM Yasser Seirawan, when asked if he ever saw any evidence of this in his own experience, said: "His charge is absolutely true! I've seen it happen. Soviet stars were expected to finish behind Karpov and I saw Polugaevsky throw away an easy draw against him in this simple endgame. I went to chessgames.com and replayed this game. It seemed to me that GM Polugaevsky gave GM Karpov a very difficult time-- forcing him onto defense for much of the game. However, at the very, very finish, it is not clear how or why the "1-0" score was achieved, since the position is drawn. Was there a flag fall? Did some idiot *resign*, where even the GetClub program might have held the draw? The position is lost for Black after 53. -- Nxa5 but is drawn after 53. -- Nd4. |
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LOW-LIFES LIKE PARR
And I can lament the fact that his association with low-lifes like yourself has cheated the chess world out of some good work, the truth is that he {GM Evans] doesn't owe me or the chess world anything. -- David Kane So, then, David Kane charged Larry Evans with being a USCF appaartchik, though he tells us more for ego than for money or "lifetime employment.". The truth, as readers here know, is that no columnist was fired more often and rehired more often than GM Larry Evans. And if one counts the behind-the-scenes threats and the censoring of articles written by Evans, then one is counting possibly as many as 100 or more battles over the years. Policy Boards and, no doubt, the current Executive Board made angry discussion of Evans' work in Chess Life at a staple at meetings. He revealed scandalous news they didn't want readers to know. Kanester's charge was not a lie. It was worse than that. It was an inversion of truth. Next came Kanester's charge that Evans wrote unwarranted (if his charge is to have any meaning) anti-Soviet material (e.g., mentioning that Viktor Korchnoi's son was arrested, sent to a labor camp, and beaten on the eve of his second match with Karpov). I asked the Kanester for proof. What I received was a statement that amounted to this: "I, David Kane, a nobody in the chess world, have no proof that any such directive was ever handed down. The absence of proof on my part is proof in itself. I shall not retract any of the charges and, in one instance, inversion of truth that I wrote about Larry Evans. The fact that I invert factoids and cannot addudice proof is proof itself that I speak the truth." That is the current Kanester position The lovely and rather succulent thing is that it will continue to be his position. And so it goes. Yours, Larry Parr David Kane wrote: wrote in message ... ATTACK IS THE BEST DEFENSE Larry - When your argument boils down to Larry Evans' tax status as a CL writer, and the absence of a written directive to politicize chess, you should be grateful for any response whatsoever. You obviously take yourself very seriously, but you take your role as defender of GM Evans' honor way too seriously. So his positions changed over the years, he misremembers things in a way favorable to his present beliefs, and he has a tendency to exaggerate his own accomplishments? Really that describes just about everybody. The irony is that the comic book story of Evans that you peddle incessantly doesn't really make him look that good. And I can lament the fact that his association with low-lifes like yourself has cheated the chess world out of some good work, the truth is that he doesn't owe me or the chess world anything. |
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On May 1, 10:03 pm, " wrote:
Snip latest rant. I think Mr. Parr is slipping. Some time back, his prattle could at least be expected to have good spelling and an anecdote here and there about "fave" Josef Stalin. Nowadays, he commits nearly as many spelling errors as Rob Mitchell or Phil nearly-IMnes. It's quite a drop in standards, even by his own, ultra-low standards. This sort of thing needs to be nipped in the bud, before it gets out of hand. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Now here is what I find a bit puzzling: notorious hack Raymond Keene was quoted here as writing that both Anatoly Karpov and Victor Kortchnoi were in "peak form" during their championship match. I did a little research to see if any purely objective data backed that observation up, and it did: both players had an above-normal result, just looking at the numbers (at chessmetrics.com). So, if that is true, then GM Kortchnoi somehow managed to perform *well* in spite of what the evil Soviets did to his son. And GM Karpov managed to perform well enough, in spite of supposed death threats from the Ananda Marga, Helter- Skelter types. In any case, it is notable that a hack like Ray Keene -- who can always be count- ed on to attack Mr. Karpov, would in this case make such an assessment-- if indeed that was his overall assessment of the match. -- help bot |
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... LOW-LIFES LIKE PARR And I can lament the fact that his association with low-lifes like yourself has cheated the chess world out of some good work, the truth is that he {GM Evans] doesn't owe me or the chess world anything. -- David Kane I asked the Kanester for proof. The proof is the magazine itself. As far as Parr's "points", I've already recanted use of the term "apparatchik" for GM Evans which has too strong a connotation of conformity that does not apply in this case where the USCF has no official voice. When CL did pass through its USSR obsession, Evans *was* first in line. However, as help bot has pointed out, that could be mere coincidence. The more appropriate description of Evans is that of the consummate bureaucratic insider, using his connections and alliances to guarantee his personal survival, even as the federation's own fortunes (not coincidentally) suffered. Parr's obsession with "written directives" is rather ironic given his journalistically inappropriate reliance on rumor, hearsay, etc. But of course policies can be effected without such directives, so it is the classic red-herring. |
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On May 1, 6:26 pm, Jürgen R. wrote:
GM Yasser Seirawan, when asked if he ever saw any evidence of this in his own experience, said: "His charge is absolutely true! I've seen it happen. Soviet stars were expected to finish behind Karpov and I saw Polugaevsky throw away an easy draw against him in this simple endgame. I went to chessgames.com and replayed this game. It seemed to me that GM Polugaevsky gave GM Karpov a very difficult time-- forcing him onto defense for much of the game. However, at the very, very finish, it is not clear how or why the "1-0" score was achieved, since the position is drawn. Was there a flag fall? Did some idiot *resign*, where even the GetClub program might have held the draw? The position is lost for Black after 53. -- Nxa5 but is drawn after 53. -- Nd4. That is an ordinary mistake. What I was looking for was an "obvious", game-throwing blunder in an "easily drawn" position. I erred in thinking it was a draw at the very finish; White wins by force, and this explains GM Polugaevsky's resignation. Back to 53. ... Nd4+ though: I've seen far worse oversights by grandmasters; one fairly recent example was then-world champion Kramnik overlooking a mate-in-one which many weak players might well have seen. It is ludicrous to assert intentions where such things exist, as in fact they do. It is simply arrogance to maintain that grandmasters are error-free chess machines. In the real world (not Evans ratpacker La-la land), everyone makes such mistakes-- even the world champions. -- help bot |
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"help bot" schrieb im Newsbeitrag ... On May 1, 6:26 pm, Jürgen R. wrote: GM Yasser Seirawan, when asked if he ever saw any evidence of this in his own experience, said: "His charge is absolutely true! I've seen it happen. Soviet stars were expected to finish behind Karpov and I saw Polugaevsky throw away an easy draw against him in this simple endgame. I went to chessgames.com and replayed this game. It seemed to me that GM Polugaevsky gave GM Karpov a very difficult time-- forcing him onto defense for much of the game. However, at the very, very finish, it is not clear how or why the "1-0" score was achieved, since the position is drawn. Was there a flag fall? Did some idiot *resign*, where even the GetClub program might have held the draw? The position is lost for Black after 53. -- Nxa5 but is drawn after 53. -- Nd4. That is an ordinary mistake. What I was looking for was an "obvious", game-throwing blunder in an "easily drawn" position. I erred in thinking it was a draw at the very finish; White wins by force, and this explains GM Polugaevsky's resignation. Back to 53. ... Nd4+ though: I've seen far worse oversights by grandmasters; one fairly recent example was then-world champion Kramnik overlooking a mate-in-one which many weak players might well have seen. It is ludicrous to assert intentions where such things exist, as in fact they do. It is simply arrogance to maintain that grandmasters are error-free chess machines. In the real world (not Evans ratpacker La-la land), everyone makes such mistakes-- even the world champions. -- help bot _________________________________________ Yes, of course: The mistake is most likely due to loss of concentration, since the endgame is easily drawn and the game finished. All these conspiracy theories are absurd: Chess players sometimes make mistakes, and occasionally grand masters make mistakes that beginners would avoid. The idea that there wasn't enormous competition among the Soviet players is just as silly as to believe that the top players don't often agree to quick and easy draws. Idiots like Parr will randomly choose arguments that suit their momentary purpose, e.g. one moment the Soviets are discriminating against Jewish players, the next moment they favor a Jewish player over an ethnic Russian. Most likely the political potentates didn't pay any more attention to the silly squabbles among chess players in the USSR than they did in the USA or elsewhere. An extreme example of chess blindness is the game Huebner-Petrosian in the Biel Interzonal 1976. I actually watched this game live. Petrosian was totally lost when he makes a completely unexpected attacking move, after which H. has a simple mate in 3 or 4. But instead H. defends and makes an unbelievable sequence of blunders until he loses... |
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ANTI-SOVIET HOLY WATER Idiots like Parr will randomly choose arguments that suit their momentary purpose, e.g. one moment the Soviets are discriminating against Jewish players, the next moment they favor a Jewish player over an ethnic Russian. Most likely the political potentates didn't pay any more attention to the silly squabbles among chess players in the USSR than they did in the USA or elsewhere. -- Juergen Juergen does not like unpleasants truths about the late, unlamented Soviet Union. He has likely yet to recover from the mass demonstrations throughout Russia and Eastern Europe that finally ended communism east of the Elbe. We reported what Korchnoi said about chess players in the Soviet Union learning widely about his defection when Pravda, Izvestia and other Soviet propaganda vehicles would be forced to report on his candidates' matches. Juergen's response was a lulu. Soviet players on the scene in Biel, Switzerland heard the news. Hence the news would spread throughout the USSR like wildfire. Nonsense. Korchnoi was not talking about limited chess circles; his reference was evidently to, say, the 60 or so closed major Soviet cities of that period to which travel was difficult, if not impossible, for outsiders. Korchnoi was speaking of chess players throughout the vast hinterland of the USSR. We should not take pleasure in provoking a creature such as our Juergen by tossing anti-soviet holy water on the man and hearing the hissing as he burns. Regrettably, we are not totally unamused by the man's knee-jerk, very old-fashioned pro-Sovietism. We thought his type had ceased to exist, especially in the USSR but also throughout most of Western Europe. Evidently there are still isolated examples. Juergen est; ergo, Juergen est. Yours, Larry Parr Jürgen R. wrote: "help bot" schrieb im Newsbeitrag ... On May 1, 6:26 pm, J?rgen R. wrote: GM Yasser Seirawan, when asked if he ever saw any evidence of this in his own experience, said: "His charge is absolutely true! I've seen it happen. Soviet stars were expected to finish behind Karpov and I saw Polugaevsky throw away an easy draw against him in this simple endgame. I went to chessgames.com and replayed this game. It seemed to me that GM Polugaevsky gave GM Karpov a very difficult time-- forcing him onto defense for much of the game. However, at the very, very finish, it is not clear how or why the "1-0" score was achieved, since the position is drawn. Was there a flag fall? Did some idiot *resign*, where even the GetClub program might have held the draw? The position is lost for Black after 53. -- Nxa5 but is drawn after 53. -- Nd4. That is an ordinary mistake. What I was looking for was an "obvious", game-throwing blunder in an "easily drawn" position. I erred in thinking it was a draw at the very finish; White wins by force, and this explains GM Polugaevsky's resignation. Back to 53. ... Nd4+ though: I've seen far worse oversights by grandmasters; one fairly recent example was then-world champion Kramnik overlooking a mate-in-one which many weak players might well have seen. It is ludicrous to assert intentions where such things exist, as in fact they do. It is simply arrogance to maintain that grandmasters are error-free chess machines. In the real world (not Evans ratpacker La-la land), everyone makes such mistakes-- even the world champions. -- help bot _________________________________________ Yes, of course: The mistake is most likely due to loss of concentration, since the endgame is easily drawn and the game finished. All these conspiracy theories are absurd: Chess players sometimes make mistakes, and occasionally grand masters make mistakes that beginners would avoid. The idea that there wasn't enormous competition among the Soviet players is just as silly as to believe that the top players don't often agree to quick and easy draws. Idiots like Parr will randomly choose arguments that suit their momentary purpose, e.g. one moment the Soviets are discriminating against Jewish players, the next moment they favor a Jewish player over an ethnic Russian. Most likely the political potentates didn't pay any more attention to the silly squabbles among chess players in the USSR than they did in the USA or elsewhere. An extreme example of chess blindness is the game Huebner-Petrosian in the Biel Interzonal 1976. I actually watched this game live. Petrosian was totally lost when he makes a completely unexpected attacking move, after which H. has a simple mate in 3 or 4. But instead H. defends and makes an unbelievable sequence of blunders until he loses... |
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schrieb im Newsbeitrag ... ANTI-SOVIET HOLY WATER Idiots like Parr will randomly choose arguments that suit their momentary purpose, e.g. one moment the Soviets are discriminating against Jewish players, the next moment they favor a Jewish player over an ethnic Russian. Most likely the political potentates didn't pay any more attention to the silly squabbles among chess players in the USSR than they did in the USA or elsewhere. -- Juergen Juergen does not like unpleasants truths about the late, unlamented Soviet Union. He has likely yet to recover from the mass demonstrations throughout Russia and Eastern Europe that finally ended communism east of the Elbe. We reported what Korchnoi said about chess players in the Soviet Union learning widely about his defection when Pravda, Izvestia and other Soviet propaganda vehicles would be forced to report on his candidates' matches. Juergen's response was a lulu. Soviet players on the scene in Biel, Switzerland heard the news. Hence the news would spread throughout the USSR like wildfire. Nonsense. Korchnoi was not talking about limited chess circles; his reference was evidently to, say, the 60 or so closed major Soviet cities of that period to which travel was difficult, if not impossible, for outsiders. Korchnoi was speaking of chess players throughout the vast hinterland of the USSR. We should not take pleasure in provoking a creature such as our Juergen by tossing anti-soviet holy water on the man and hearing the hissing as he burns. Regrettably, we are not totally unamused by the man's knee-jerk, very old-fashioned pro-Sovietism. We thought his type had ceased to exist, especially in the USSR but also throughout most of Western Europe. Evidently there are still isolated examples. Juergen est; ergo, Juergen est. Yours, Larry Parr ===================================== Parr, you are a bore. Your diatribes are so full of pretentious nonsense that it doesn't make sense to respond in detail. Are you the spokesman for a whole group of superannuated McCarthyites? Or is it the pluralis majestatis you are using when you say 'we'? What a pompous ass! |
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On May 5, 7:38 am, Jürgen R. wrote:
Yes, of course: The mistake is most likely due to loss of concentration, since the endgame is easily drawn and the game finished. While that may well be true, the point is that the lunatic-fringers have presented no substantive evidence to support their speculations. All these conspiracy theories are absurd: Chess players sometimes make mistakes, and occasionally grand masters make mistakes that beginners would avoid. In fact, in analyzing the ending of this game I ran across yet another position where the world's very strongest chess player seemed quite clueless. (It rendered a positive position score where the very rules of chess indicated a drawn game.) I think that was the very same program against which then-world champion Kramnik overlooked a mate-in- one. The idea that there wasn't enormous competition among the Soviet players is just as silly as to believe that the top players don't often agree to quick and easy draws. If I were "king" and had ordered one of my "subjects" to throw his game to me, and he then did to me what GM Polugaevsky did to GM Karpov in that game, I would have him hung; make an example out of him. Mr. Karpov had White, and yet he spent much of the game on the defensive, narrowly escaping being "crushed like a chicken". Idiots like Parr will randomly choose arguments that suit their momentary purpose, e.g. one moment the Soviets are discriminating against Jewish players, the next moment they favor a Jewish player over an ethnic Russian. In truth, Mr. Parr is but a mindless parrot, so when he repeats the speculations of Larry Evans, one can no more hold him responsible for their idiocy than one could blame a fish for swimming. It is not a parrot's job to carefully "review" his master's jabber, but only to repeat it faithfully; that is what parrots do. Sadly, in many cases Mr. Evans acts the parrot, mindlessly repeating ridiculous speculations of others; Raymond Keene for instance. One such "story" has long been debunked by Edward Winter, yet all the original mindless parrots have continued their faithful jabbering, while the hack who invented the lies has turned to radio silence... . Most likely the political potentates didn't pay any more attention to the silly squabbles among chess players in the USSR than they did in the USA or elsewhere. According to one fellow who was anointed by Larry Evans as an authority on such matters, Vassily Smyslov was the preferred champion; this was precisely the *opposite* of what Mr. Evans had "predicted" he would say; even so, the contradiction was ignored, just like all other contradictions in the theories and speculations of the imbecilic Evans ratpack. My view is that the erroneous "prediction" was an example of grotesque dishonesty, and that the lack of any correction proves this to be correct. An extreme example of chess blindness is the game Huebner-Petrosian in the Biel Interzonal 1976. I actually watched this game live. Petrosian was totally lost when he makes a completely unexpected attacking move, after which H. has a simple mate in 3 or 4. But instead H. defends and makes an unbelievable sequence of blunders until he loses... This reminds me of a famous game in which Gary Kasparov launched one of his speculative attacks, only to find himself down a Rook; unfazed, GK continued the "attack", ultimately winning despite his opponent being one of the best players in the world (initials LL). Granted, in that case, time-pressure probably played a role. -- help bot |
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