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  #11  
Old April 29th 08, 02:48 PM posted to rec.games.chess.politics,rec.games.chess.misc,alt.chess
Rob
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On Apr 29, 5:14*am, samsloan wrote:
Quote:
Originally Posted by MarkH
What does coaching the Olympiad team have to do with
the Kasparov Chess Foundation?

The Kasparov Chess Foundation is the sponsor of the US Woman's
Olympiad Team. They pay for the team. Without their sponsorship, we
would not be able to send a woman's team to the Chess Olympics.

The rift arose when Michael Khodarkovsky, President of the Kasparov
Chess Foundation, decided that since he was paying for it, he should
be the team captain. Susan Polgar was demanding an exorbitant amount
for her services. This led to an immediate break-down in relations
between Susan Polgar and the Kasparov Chess Foundation and resulted in
dozens of attacks posted by Paul Truong against the "illegal contract"
between the Kasparov Chess Foundation and the USCF.

Sam Sloan


Not exactly accurate
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  #12  
Old April 29th 08, 03:21 PM posted to rec.games.chess.politics,rec.games.chess.misc,alt.chess
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Quote:
Originally Posted by MarkH
Maybe anyone with such personal interests shouldn't be
on the board, just so the USCF can act more independently and with a
better focus on US Chess. Still, I wouldn't say that someone who has
personal interests should be isolated or ostracized. The USCF should
promote all chess activities in America as well as it can.
The issue here is that the USCF Voters were not allowed to know about
the serious rift between the Susan Polgar Foundation and the Kasparov
Chess Foundation because the USCF Issues Forum is heavily censored.
Had the voters known about this and several other major issues,
perhaps the results of the election might have been different.

Sam Sloan
  #13  
Old April 29th 08, 06:21 PM posted to rec.games.chess.politics,rec.games.chess.misc,alt.chess
Rob
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On Apr 29, 9:21*am, samsloan wrote:
Quote:
Originally Posted by MarkH
Maybe anyone with such personal interests shouldn't be
on the board, just so the USCF can act more independently and with a
better focus on US Chess. Still, I wouldn't say that someone who has
personal interests should be isolated or ostracized. The USCF should
promote all chess activities in America as well as it can.

The issue here is that the USCF Voters were not allowed to know about
the serious rift between the Susan Polgar Foundation and the Kasparov
Chess Foundation because the USCF Issues Forum is heavily censored.
Had the voters known about this and several other major issues,
perhaps the results of the election might have been different.

Sam Sloan


Not true.Not an issue.
  #14  
Old April 29th 08, 10:14 PM posted to rec.games.chess.politics,rec.games.chess.misc,alt.chess
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samsloan wrote:
The issue here is that the USCF Voters were not allowed to know about
the serious rift between the Susan Polgar Foundation and the Kasparov
Chess Foundation because the USCF Issues Forum is heavily censored.
Had the voters known about this and several other major issues,
perhaps the results of the election might have been different.

Sam Sloan



Then I guess you think no one reads anything you write. You were
braying about this for months before the election. Do you really
suffer from pseudologica fantastica, or are you lying about it?
  #15  
Old April 29th 08, 10:25 PM posted to rec.games.chess.politics,rec.games.chess.misc,alt.chess
samsloan
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On Apr 29, 4:14 pm, wrote:
samsloan wrote:
The issue here is that the USCF Voters were not allowed to know about
the serious rift between the Susan Polgar Foundation and the Kasparov
Chess Foundation because the USCF Issues Forum is heavily censored.
Had the voters known about this and several other major issues,
perhaps the results of the election might have been different.


Sam Sloan


Then I guess you think no one reads anything you write. You were
braying about this for months before the election. Do you really
suffer from pseudologica fantastica, or are you lying about it?


I was writing about that any other topics here. However, this group
was flooded with postings by the Fake Sam Sloan, so few were going to
dig down and get to my real posts.

It was over on the USCF Issues Forum at
http://main.uschess.org/forums/viewforum.php?f=5

That is where the voters were and we were not allowed to inform the
voters about these issues because of censorship.

The Real Sam Sloan
  #16  
Old April 30th 08, 03:00 AM posted to rec.games.chess.politics,rec.games.chess.misc,alt.chess
Rob
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Default SPICE-KCF Rift?

On Apr 29, 4:25 pm, samsloan wrote:
On Apr 29, 4:14 pm, wrote:

samsloan wrote:
The issue here is that the USCF Voters were not allowed to know about
the serious rift between the Susan Polgar Foundation and the Kasparov
Chess Foundation because the USCF Issues Forum is heavily censored.
Had the voters known about this and several other major issues,
perhaps the results of the election might have been different.


Sam Sloan


Then I guess you think no one reads anything you write. You were
braying about this for months before the election. Do you really
suffer from pseudologica fantastica, or are you lying about it?


I was writing about that any other topics here. However, this group
was flooded with postings by the Fake Sam Sloan, so few were going to
dig down and get to my real posts.

It was over on the USCF Issues Forum athttp://main.uschess.org/forums/viewforum.php?f=5

That is where the voters were and we were not allowed to inform the
voters about these issues because of censorship.

The Real Sam Sloan


Another lie. You spammed the entire internet with your tripe
  #17  
Old April 30th 08, 10:41 AM posted to rec.games.chess.politics,rec.games.chess.misc,alt.chess
jkh001@aim.com
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samsloan wrote:
On Apr 29, 4:14 pm, wrote:
samsloan wrote:
The issue here is that the USCF Voters were not allowed to know about
the serious rift between the Susan Polgar Foundation and the Kasparov
Chess Foundation because the USCF Issues Forum is heavily censored.
Had the voters known about this and several other major issues,
perhaps the results of the election might have been different.


Sam Sloan


Then I guess you think no one reads anything you write. You were
braying about this for months before the election. Do you really
suffer from pseudologica fantastica, or are you lying about it?


I was writing about that any other topics here. However, this group
was flooded with postings by the Fake Sam Sloan, so few were going to
dig down and get to my real posts.

It was over on the USCF Issues Forum at
http://main.uschess.org/forums/viewforum.php?f=5

That is where the voters were and we were not allowed to inform the
voters about these issues because of censorship.

The Real Sam Sloan



Then how is it that I and most other readers of the USCF Forums know
all about it? Between you and ... well, maybe not your supporters, but
other Polgar-haters, this stuff was common knowledge. The voters
tossed you out with the trash anyway.

When will you realize that, while you may be able to edit the content
of your diseased brain, you can't change reality?
  #18  
Old April 30th 08, 11:01 AM posted to rec.games.chess.politics,rec.games.chess.misc,alt.chess,soc.culture.magyar
samsloan
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On Apr 30, 4:41 am, wrote:
samsloan wrote:


It was over on the USCF Issues Forum at
http://main.uschess.org/forums/viewforum.php?f=5


That is where the voters were and we were not allowed to inform the
voters about these issues because of censorship.


The Real Sam Sloan


Then how is it that I and most other readers of the USCF Forums know
all about it? Between you and ... well, maybe not your supporters, but
other Polgar-haters, this stuff was common knowledge. The voters
tossed you out with the trash anyway.

When will you realize that, while you may be able to edit the content
of your diseased brain, you can't change reality?


You are a chess politico who has been around forever. You edit a chess
magazine in Southern California and are in touch with Hanken and other
politicos.

However, most voters know little or nothing about this. Many voted
just on the basis of campaign statements published in Chess Life. They
would hardly be expected to know about the serious problems with
everything involving Susan Polgar going back for the past 23 years.
They would not know that the problems Polgar has been creating here
are almost identical to the problems she created back in Hungary
before she got here.

Sam Sloan
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Old April 30th 08, 01:09 PM posted to rec.games.chess.politics,rec.games.chess.misc
Chess One[_2_]
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"samsloan" wrote in message
...

...

However, most voters know little or nothing about this. Many voted
just on the basis of campaign statements published in Chess Life. They
would hardly be expected to know about the serious problems with
everything involving Susan Polgar going back for the past 23 years.


Or... even your own problems, which go back even further?

They would not know that the problems Polgar has been creating here
are almost identical to the problems she created back in Hungary
before she got here.


Pushing the limits of the game to involve more players, eliminating
gender-bias from the inside, by actually encouraging self esteem in young
women, as if they were people too?

Those sort of problems?

People are terrified that the precious balance of the status quo will be
upset, that new criteria will apply, and a necessary transparency in chess
governance will actually be carried out rather than suggested - that the
USCF will actually do something to justify its existence, rather than
continue to decline like a private member's club for the old boys.

Those factors are very serious problems only for those who like it the way
it is now. And those people talk about SPICE and KCF exploring their
individual paths forward as a 'rift', since it ain't a monolithic approach,
which in their opinion should run everything [down].

Phil Innes

Sam Sloan



  #20  
Old April 30th 08, 01:35 PM posted to rec.games.chess.politics,rec.games.chess.misc
Brian Lafferty
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Chess One wrote:
"samsloan" wrote in message
...

...

However, most voters know little or nothing about this. Many voted
just on the basis of campaign statements published in Chess Life. They
would hardly be expected to know about the serious problems with
everything involving Susan Polgar going back for the past 23 years.


Or... even your own problems, which go back even further?

They would not know that the problems Polgar has been creating here
are almost identical to the problems she created back in Hungary
before she got here.


Pushing the limits of the game to involve more players, eliminating
gender-bias from the inside, by actually encouraging self esteem in young
women, as if they were people too?

Those sort of problems?

People are terrified that the precious balance of the status quo will be
upset, that new criteria will apply, and a necessary transparency in chess
governance will actually be carried out rather than suggested - that the
USCF will actually do something to justify its existence, rather than
continue to decline like a private member's club for the old boys.

Those factors are very serious problems only for those who like it the way
it is now. And those people talk about SPICE and KCF exploring their
individual paths forward as a 'rift', since it ain't a monolithic approach,
which in their opinion should run everything [down].

Phil Innes

Sam Sloan


BB and Chessville have no journalistic credibility what-so-ever. BB's
buddy Kelly Atkins is chumming with Susie in Texas. From Susie's Blog
with a lovely photo of Susie and Kelly

"This is Mr. Kelly Atkins, one of the editors and forum host at
chessville.com. He will be visiting SPICE and Texas Tech today to do an
exclusive behind the scene college chess report. Many people hear about
the incredible success of SPICE in a very short period of time. But how
do we do it? After this visit, Kelly will report the behind the scene
secret of success of SPICE and its plans in the future."
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