"samsloan" wrote in message
...
On Jun 2, 5:42 pm, Rob wrote:

Believe Mr. Labate

Interesting point: It is primarily because of Ed Trice that Rob "The
Robber" Mitchell got his moniker "The Robber".

Sam Sloan's sly repetition neglects to mention that he is the only person to
ever use that term. Regular people for example call Rob, 'Lex'

What Sam Sloan knows about anyone's business relationships is unknown -
especially since /I/ know much of the detail of what went on, and I know
there were non-disclosure agreements. Therefore, what does the Sloan know,
and from whom?

So, as it becomes increasingly clear that Ed Trice was behind the "My
61 Memorable Games Hoax", one must consider the possibility, however
unlikely as it may seem, that Rob Mitchell really did not try to
swindle Ed Trice out of $35,000.

Also, it was Ed Trice who claimed that he had written a computer
program that had solved the game of checkers. This turns out not to be
true either.

So, we must look back and re-evaluate all the claims that Ed Trice has
been making.

I know what's true and what ain't.

What can be said outside any non-disclosure agreement, is that Ed did try to
get Fischer into a match - but what Sloan accuses Rob of doing is really
nonsense - he should accuse me instead. Because I also talked directly to
Fischer and his buddy-guard Saemi. This was the last big attempt to get
Fischer back into any sort of chess.[at least 5 other people know about
this, 2 in this ng, and nobody writes about it, since it is confidential
arrangement necessary for such things to occur.]

Sam Sloan might desist from his instant judgements of people, since at least
objectively, it is only as right as the proverbial clock.

He might also progress from the world of comic book appelations of
completely good and bad people, all heroic or all villainy, and try to take
in some grown-up perspectives.

Phil Innes

I cut the [un]usual newsgroups.

Sam Sloan

What Sam Sloan is referring to is Trice's long story of how he tried
to set up his Karpov vs Fischer Gothic Chess match:
http://gothicchess.blogspot.com/2007...eland-one.html
(search for "masterminds" to get to the start of the bit which
mentions Rob Mitchell).
This seems to clearly state that Trice believed Chess Masterminds (=
Rob Mitchell) tried to extract $35,000 from him by saying that they
had contacted both Karpov and Fischer and had convinced them to
participate in the match, however you should bear in mind that this is
written by Ed Trice, and hence highly unlikely to be the whole truth.

On 3 Jun, 15:01, "Chess One" wrote:

What can be said outside any non-disclosure agreement, is that Ed did try to
get Fischer into a match - but what Sloan accuses Rob of doing is really
nonsense - he should accuse me instead. Because I also talked directly to
Fischer and his buddy-guard Saemi. This was the last big attempt to get
Fischer back into any sort of chess.[at least 5 other people know about
this, 2 in this ng, and nobody writes about it, since it is confidential
arrangement necessary for such things to occur.]

Sam Sloan might desist from his instant judgements of people, since at least
objectively, it is only as right as the proverbial clock.

Phil Innes



--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Bobby Fischer's "My 61 Memorable Games"
read all about it he http://www.labatechess.com/61_games.html

wrote in message
...
What Sam Sloan is referring to is Trice's long story of how he tried
to set up his Karpov vs Fischer Gothic Chess match:
http://gothicchess.blogspot.com/2007...eland-one.html
(search for "masterminds" to get to the start of the bit which
mentions Rob Mitchell).
This seems to clearly state that Trice believed Chess Masterminds (=
Rob Mitchell) tried to extract $35,000 from him by saying that they
had contacted both Karpov and Fischer and had convinced them to
participate in the match, however you should bear in mind that this is
written by Ed Trice, and hence highly unlikely to be the whole truth.

I believe there is an agreement, and it is covered by a non-disclosure
agreement, signed by both parties.

ChessMasterminds [CM] does not equal Rob Mitchell, although he may play have
played a part in it. It is not my understanding that CM contacted Ed, but
the other way around - so I am not sure what sense 'extract' obtains in the
above para. But since CM is a film production entity, to 'extract' $35,000
for a Fischer match is absurd! Perhaps Mr. Sloan never inquired the cost of
a prime-time production? Or he thinks the film would last about 10 minutes -
even high-end titles and graphics in HD can cost that much.

Anyway - I rather feel as though Sam Sloan thinks Fischer is 'his', or his
to protect. Whereas the truth is that Saemi P was more than adequate
protection for RJF - an RJF who is not at all naive about his media worth.

---

/I/ contacted both Fischer [in Iceland] and Karpov [who was in Moscow at the
time]. I also contacted other players - but that's my business!

To my knowledge, Rob Mitchell did not contact either player, ever. Sam Sloan
persists in suggesting that he did, and also by quoting what looks like
priveleged information under the confidentiality agreement - information
from a draft which was incidentally not signed by both parties, a draft
numbered 3.

But there were 4 drafts!

---

Neither has Sam Sloan said what he objects to about the proposed deal for
any amount of money - that is to say, what exactly CM would need to perform
to obtain it, and why in the Sloan's opinion it is wrongo, sooo wrongo!

I have told Sloan this before, not just twice before [!] and of course he
completely ignores it, preferring to villify Rob Mitchell for something he
never did, never proposed to do, or was contracted for!

So what's new with the latest Sloan alarums?

I am not subject to that confidentiality agreement, and though I can fault
Sloan's public suppositions by these public writings - I don't see why I
should present anything else to him at all. He can't even state his own
interest in it.

Now Sloan is re-evaluating his previous lauding of Ed Trice, and finding a
new villain in him - compounding sins and things of worth all together. In
the grown-up world, things are a bit more complicated than Cops & Robbers,
heroes and villains, who all live in Sloan-City in places quite close to
where Super-Sloan himself has his virtual being.

Cordially, Phil Innes


On 3 Jun, 15:01, "Chess One" wrote:

What can be said outside any non-disclosure agreement, is that Ed did try
to
get Fischer into a match - but what Sloan accuses Rob of doing is really
nonsense - he should accuse me instead. Because I also talked directly to
Fischer and his buddy-guard Saemi. This was the last big attempt to get
Fischer back into any sort of chess.[at least 5 other people know about
this, 2 in this ng, and nobody writes about it, since it is confidential
arrangement necessary for such things to occur.]

Sam Sloan might desist from his instant judgements of people, since at
least
objectively, it is only as right as the proverbial clock.

Phil Innes



--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Bobby Fischer's "My 61 Memorable Games"
read all about it he http://www.labatechess.com/61_games.html

Phil - you seem to be a bit confused here. The link I posted:
http://gothicchess.blogspot.com/2007...eland-one.html
is in Ed Trice's own Gothic Chess blog, it has got nothing whatsoever
to do with Sam Sloan. If I have mis-understood you where you wrote
"Sloan's public suppositions by these public writings" and this means
something other than you think Sam Sloan wrote this blog, then please
forgive me.

It is Ed Trice who decided that the non-disclosure agreement was no
longer in force (because a year had passed since the contracts needed
to be signed by both parties) and started to write his own account of
what happened when he tried to organise the Karpov vs Fischer Gothic
Chess match. He seems to have got bored before he reached the end and
he hasn't updated it in months.

Now, Chess Masterminds may well be a film production company, but it
seams to me that Trice wanted to use them to obtain the agreement of
both Karpov of Fischer in the match (paragraph 8 in that draft
contract), and that was what he was willing to pay them $35,000 for.
He claims in his blog that Rob Mitchell said that he been in contact
with Karpov and had secured his agreement, but that this turned out
not to be true. That is why there is a claim that Rob Mitchell tried
to scam Ed Trice for $35,000 - because he asked for payment for a job
he claimed to have done, but in reality hadn't. Of course, this is
just Trice's version of events.

You've mentioned that "things are a bit more complicated than Cops &
Robbers" a couple of times now. Whilst this may be true, I think it is
pretty obvious that some people you come across are closer to the Good
Guys, and some closer to the Bad Guys. Ed Trice's attempts to scam
Edward Labate out of $6000 for the non-existent "My 61 Memorable
Games" book places him very firmly in the Bad Guys camp.

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Bobby Fischer's "My 61 Memorable Games"
read all about it hehttp://www.labatechess.com/61_games.html



On 3 Jun, 16:28, "Chess One" wrote:
wrote in message

...

What Sam Sloan is referring to is Trice's long story of how he tried
to set up his Karpov vs Fischer Gothic Chess match:
http://gothicchess.blogspot.com/2007...ischer-in-icel...
(search for "masterminds" to get to the start of the bit which
mentions Rob Mitchell).
This seems to clearly state that Trice believed Chess Masterminds (=
Rob Mitchell) tried to extract $35,000 from him by saying that they
had contacted both Karpov and Fischer and had convinced them to
participate in the match, however you should bear in mind that this is
written by Ed Trice, and hence highly unlikely to be the whole truth.

I believe there is an agreement, and it is covered by a non-disclosure
agreement, signed by both parties.

ChessMasterminds [CM] does not equal Rob Mitchell, although he may play have
played a part in it. It is not my understanding that CM contacted Ed, but
the other way around - so I am not sure what sense 'extract' obtains in the
above para. But since CM is a film production entity, to 'extract' $35,000
for a Fischer match is absurd! Perhaps Mr. Sloan never inquired the cost of
a prime-time production? Or he thinks the film would last about 10 minutes -
even high-end titles and graphics in HD can cost that much.

Anyway - I rather feel as though Sam Sloan thinks Fischer is 'his', or his
to protect. Whereas the truth is that Saemi P was more than adequate
protection for RJF - an RJF who is not at all naive about his media worth.

---

/I/ contacted both Fischer [in Iceland] and Karpov [who was in Moscow at the
time]. I also contacted other players - but that's my business!

To my knowledge, Rob Mitchell did not contact either player, ever. Sam Sloan
persists in suggesting that he did, and also by quoting what looks like
priveleged information under the confidentiality agreement - information
from a draft which was incidentally not signed by both parties, a draft
numbered 3.

But there were 4 drafts!

---

Neither has Sam Sloan said what he objects to about the proposed deal for
any amount of money - that is to say, what exactly CM would need to perform
to obtain it, and why in the Sloan's opinion it is wrongo, sooo wrongo!

I have told Sloan this before, not just twice before [!] and of course he
completely ignores it, preferring to villify Rob Mitchell for something he
never did, never proposed to do, or was contracted for!

So what's new with the latest Sloan alarums?

I am not subject to that confidentiality agreement, and though I can fault
Sloan's public suppositions by these public writings - I don't see why I
should present anything else to him at all. He can't even state his own
interest in it.

Now Sloan is re-evaluating his previous lauding of Ed Trice, and finding a
new villain in him - compounding sins and things of worth all together. In
the grown-up world, things are a bit more complicated than Cops & Robbers,
heroes and villains, who all live in Sloan-City in places quite close to
where Super-Sloan himself has his virtual being.

Cordially, Phil Innes

On 3 Jun, 15:01, "Chess One" wrote:

What can be said outside any non-disclosure agreement, is that Ed did try
to
get Fischer into a match - but what Sloan accuses Rob of doing is really
nonsense - he should accuse me instead. Because I also talked directly to
Fischer and his buddy-guard Saemi. This was the last big attempt to get
Fischer back into any sort of chess.[at least 5 other people know about
this, 2 in this ng, and nobody writes about it, since it is confidential
arrangement necessary for such things to occur.]

Sam Sloan might desist from his instant judgements of people, since at
least
objectively, it is only as right as the proverbial clock.

Phil Innes

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Bobby Fischer's "My 61 Memorable Games"
read all about it hehttp://www.labatechess.com/61_games.html

wrote in message
...
Phil - you seem to be a bit confused here. The link I posted:
http://gothicchess.blogspot.com/2007...eland-one.html
is in Ed Trice's own Gothic Chess blog, it has got nothing whatsoever
to do with Sam Sloan.

Yeah, I know. Sloan is reporting from that site.

If I have mis-understood you where you wrote
"Sloan's public suppositions by these public writings" and this means
something other than you think Sam Sloan wrote this blog, then please
forgive me.

What he has read is as I have said - I have no idea why it is put up at the
site, but what Sloan then makes of this unsigned draft agreement which is
besides within an confidentiality agreement is up to him. As to making
resolutions about people from that - then my point is that Sam Sloan
consistently ignores all I have said about it.

It is Ed Trice who decided that the non-disclosure agreement was no
longer in force (because a year had passed since the contracts needed
to be signed by both parties) and started to write his own account of
what happened when he tried to organise the Karpov vs Fischer Gothic
Chess match. He seems to have got bored before he reached the end and
he hasn't updated it in months.

Now, Chess Masterminds may well be a film production company, but it
seams to me that Trice wanted to use them to obtain the agreement of
both Karpov of Fischer in the match (paragraph 8 in that draft
contract), and that was what he was willing to pay them $35,000 for.
He claims in his blog that Rob Mitchell said that he been in contact
with Karpov and had secured his agreement, but that this turned out
not to be true.

So? What I wrote in the previous message is true. Who knows what Ed thinks
is true?

That is why there is a claim that Rob Mitchell tried
to scam Ed Trice for $35,000 - because he asked for payment for a job
he claimed to have done, but in reality hadn't. Of course, this is
just Trice's version of events.

shrug Sure. It is Ed's version of events.

You've mentioned that "things are a bit more complicated than Cops &
Robbers" a couple of times now. Whilst this may be true, I think it is
pretty obvious that some people you come across are closer to the Good
Guys, and some closer to the Bad Guys. Ed Trice's attempts to scam
Edward Labate out of $6000 for the non-existent "My 61 Memorable
Games" book places him very firmly in the Bad Guys camp.

That may also be true, but I have no knowledge from any party if it is or
not. I restrict myself to what I wrote previously on what I know is true or
not.

Cordially, Phil

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Bobby Fischer's "My 61 Memorable Games"
read all about it hehttp://www.labatechess.com/61_games.html



On 3 Jun, 16:28, "Chess One" wrote:
wrote in message

...

What Sam Sloan is referring to is Trice's long story of how he tried
to set up his Karpov vs Fischer Gothic Chess match:
http://gothicchess.blogspot.com/2007...ischer-in-icel...
(search for "masterminds" to get to the start of the bit which
mentions Rob Mitchell).
This seems to clearly state that Trice believed Chess Masterminds (=
Rob Mitchell) tried to extract $35,000 from him by saying that they
had contacted both Karpov and Fischer and had convinced them to
participate in the match, however you should bear in mind that this is
written by Ed Trice, and hence highly unlikely to be the whole truth.

I believe there is an agreement, and it is covered by a non-disclosure
agreement, signed by both parties.

ChessMasterminds [CM] does not equal Rob Mitchell, although he may play
have
played a part in it. It is not my understanding that CM contacted Ed, but
the other way around - so I am not sure what sense 'extract' obtains in
the
above para. But since CM is a film production entity, to 'extract'
$35,000
for a Fischer match is absurd! Perhaps Mr. Sloan never inquired the cost
of
a prime-time production? Or he thinks the film would last about 10
minutes -
even high-end titles and graphics in HD can cost that much.

Anyway - I rather feel as though Sam Sloan thinks Fischer is 'his', or
his
to protect. Whereas the truth is that Saemi P was more than adequate
protection for RJF - an RJF who is not at all naive about his media
worth.

---

/I/ contacted both Fischer [in Iceland] and Karpov [who was in Moscow at
the
time]. I also contacted other players - but that's my business!

To my knowledge, Rob Mitchell did not contact either player, ever. Sam
Sloan
persists in suggesting that he did, and also by quoting what looks like
priveleged information under the confidentiality agreement - information
from a draft which was incidentally not signed by both parties, a draft
numbered 3.

But there were 4 drafts!

---

Neither has Sam Sloan said what he objects to about the proposed deal for
any amount of money - that is to say, what exactly CM would need to
perform
to obtain it, and why in the Sloan's opinion it is wrongo, sooo wrongo!

I have told Sloan this before, not just twice before [!] and of course he
completely ignores it, preferring to villify Rob Mitchell for something
he
never did, never proposed to do, or was contracted for!

So what's new with the latest Sloan alarums?

I am not subject to that confidentiality agreement, and though I can
fault
Sloan's public suppositions by these public writings - I don't see why I
should present anything else to him at all. He can't even state his own
interest in it.

Now Sloan is re-evaluating his previous lauding of Ed Trice, and finding
a
new villain in him - compounding sins and things of worth all together.
In
the grown-up world, things are a bit more complicated than Cops &
Robbers,
heroes and villains, who all live in Sloan-City in places quite close to
where Super-Sloan himself has his virtual being.

Cordially, Phil Innes

On 3 Jun, 15:01, "Chess One" wrote:

What can be said outside any non-disclosure agreement, is that Ed did
try
to
get Fischer into a match - but what Sloan accuses Rob of doing is
really
nonsense - he should accuse me instead. Because I also talked directly
to
Fischer and his buddy-guard Saemi. This was the last big attempt to
get
Fischer back into any sort of chess.[at least 5 other people know
about
this, 2 in this ng, and nobody writes about it, since it is
confidential
arrangement necessary for such things to occur.]

Sam Sloan might desist from his instant judgements of people, since at
least
objectively, it is only as right as the proverbial clock.

Phil Innes

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Bobby Fischer's "My 61 Memorable Games"
read all about it hehttp://www.labatechess.com/61_games.html

Lots to read. Some things contradict. Tough to sort out. A few things
though

You can't take anyone to court after you blab about it the way stuff
went on here. Legal matters are private matters. Someone wronged you,
you have to go through proper channels. The fact that both people
ranted about it on the web is grounds to dismiss anything mentioned as
evidence.

The Wikipedia page shows him as born in PA, but

Searching around with internet detective and Intelius web site you
find

Ed Trice in Port Jefferson, NY
Ed Trice in Belle Terre, NY
Ed Trice in Syosset, NY
Ed Trice in Long Beach, NY
Ed Trice in North Wales, PA
Ed Trice in Jamison, PA
Ed Trice in Doylestown, PA
Ed Trice in Hatfield, PA
Ed Trice in Dover, DE
Ed Trice in Rehoboth Beach, DE
Ed Trice in District Heights, MD
Ed Trice in Salisbury, MD
Ed Trice is Denton, MD

4 of the addresses correspond to someone 70+ years in age.
3 of the addresses correspond to someone 50+ years in age.
6 of the addresses correspond to someone 40+ years in age.

The Hatfield address was for a 74 year old that died in August of
2004. I assume that is not the person.

The Delaware addresses are both for a 40 year old with middle initial
"A".
The USCF ID page that I saw in one of the posts shows that Edward A
Trice lives in Delaware.
So, this must be the person in question.

The posts on the Chess Ninja page blame someone from PA for making
posts. Again, looks like a case of people jumping to a possible
conclusion.

Next item.

Long long post on the blog about the Fischer match thing. Seems to be
from a few years back. Seems some company asked for money and did
nothing to make the match happen.

Only way to resolve it - can people who contacted Fischer prove it?
What would they be willing to stake to back up their claims? Seems a
simple way. Do a 3 way call with the Iceland folks. Mitchell, Trice,
whoever else. Record it. Turn it into an MP3. Host it. That will
answer that.

As for the book deal and the 6 month scam for $6000.

Seems like a contract is needed. Email is not a contract. Also, saw
somewhere Labate said 'No thanks.' End of story. Declining a deal is
no way to claim 'foul' once you are out.

Did a whole Intelius search on Labate too. Seems he won some sort of
huge law suit from years back. Was a hell of a lot more than $30,000.
Had an extra zero on it. Don't have all the detail, don't care for
them. I saw the scan of the docket.

So what's the docket number for the thing with Trice? No docket means
no case and all the rest is just a bunch of hot air.

V. Rosen



On 31 May, 12:32, samsloan wrote:
Things are really heating up and it is going to be interesting as Ed
Labate and Ed Trice threaten each other.

I do not know either of them so I have no opinion as to who is right,
but Ed Labate has been involved in chess both as a book seller and as
a tournament organizer for at least 40 years whereas Ed Trice is a
recently arrived huxter, so I am inclined to believe that Ed Labate is
right and Ed Trice is a fraud.

On the other hand, Ed Labate filed a frivolous lawsuit against the
USCF around 25 years ago for refusing to list his tournaments in the
TLA section of Chess Life and was paid a settlement of $30,000. Ed
Trice gets favorable mention for revealing that Rob "The Robber"
Mitchell was trying to scam him for $35,000. Ed Trice has received a
lot of favorable publicity on the Polgar websites.

Read the following websites and formulate your own opinion:

The Gothic Chess Federation
Ed Labatehttp://www.gothicchess.com/labate.html

Labate Chess
Ed Tricehttp://www.labatechess.com/ed_trice.html

Dear Ed Trice may be in a lot of trouble.

As "My 61 Memorable Games" by Bobby Fischer goes from a mystery to a
hoax ...

US Chess Federation
My 61 Memorable Games: A Mystery
by GM Larry Evans
February 1, 2008http://main.uschess.org/content/view/8175/431

US Chess Federation
My 61 Memorable Games: A Hoax
by GM Larry Evans
April 10, 2008http://main.uschess.org/content/view/8333/446

Blame is casted and scapegoats are sought (including a criminal
complaint with the FBI) ...

Chess Ninja
Daily Dirt
Fischer Bookhttp://www.chessninja.com/dailydirt/2007/12/fischer_book_for_real.htm

Fischer's My 61 Memorable Games
Google Groupshttp://groups.google.com/group/rec.games.chess.politics/browse_thread...

Positions are declared, reputations are staked and a 10-count libel
lawsuit is filed ...

The Gothic Chess Forum
Ed Labate
page 1http://z13.invisionfree.com/Gothic_Chess_Forum/index.php?s=779ceae97b...
page 2http://z13.invisionfree.com/Gothic_Chess_Forum/index.php?s=71c84948aa...

I'll just address one of your points for now. Ed Trice (hereafter
called "that buffoon Ed Trice" to distinguish him from any other Ed
Trices) definitely lives in Radnor, Pennsylvania.

The whois server for gothicchess.com:
http://who.godaddy.com/WhoIs.aspx?do...rog_id=godaddy
lists his address as 309 Tory Turn, Radnor.

Funnily enough, this is also the address of the Colgan family. Brian
Colgan is one of the few people who actually exist in the Gothic Chess
Federation apart from that buffoon Ed Trice himself, though Colgan is
certainly not involved with Gothic Chess full time.

Since that buffoon Ed Trice went bankrupt and lost his house in 2004:
http://tinyurl.com/49rkog
The most likely explanation is that Trice now lives in a bedsit at the
home of his friend, Brian Colgan.

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Bobby Fischer's "My 61 Memorable Games"
read all about it he http://www.labatechess.com/61_games.html


On 4 Jun, 06:05, wrote:

The Wikipedia page shows him as born in PA, but

Searching around with internet detective and Intelius web site you
find

Ed Trice in Port Jefferson, NY
Ed Trice in Belle Terre, NY
Ed Trice in Syosset, NY
Ed Trice in Long Beach, NY
Ed Trice in North Wales, PA
Ed Trice in Jamison, PA
Ed Trice in Doylestown, PA
Ed Trice in Hatfield, PA
Ed Trice in Dover, DE
Ed Trice in Rehoboth Beach, DE
Ed Trice in District Heights, MD
Ed Trice in Salisbury, MD
Ed Trice is Denton, MD

4 of the addresses correspond to someone 70+ years in age.
3 of the addresses correspond to someone 50+ years in age.
6 of the addresses correspond to someone 40+ years in age.

The Hatfield address was for a 74 year old that died in August of
2004. I assume that is not the person.

The Delaware addresses are both for a 40 year old with middle initial
"A".
The USCF ID page that I saw in one of the posts shows that Edward A
Trice lives in Delaware.
So, this must be the person in question.

The posts on the Chess Ninja page blame someone from PA for making
posts. Again, looks like a case of people jumping to a possible
conclusion.

On 4 Jun, 06:05, wrote:

The Delaware addresses are both for a 40 year old with middle initial
"A".
The USCF ID page that I saw in one of the posts shows that Edward A
Trice lives in Delaware.
So, this must be the person in question.

The posts on the Chess Ninja page blame someone from PA for making
posts. Again, looks like a case of people jumping to a possible
conclusion.


I didn't pick up on this when I first read your message, but when I
did a bit of digging around I discovered that there is a Delaware
county in Pennsylvania.

Moreover, and this is where it gets interesting, the IP address that
you posted your message from (76.117.82.204) can be traced back to
Aston, Pennsylvania.
(go to http://www.ip2location.com/, enter 76.117.82.204 in the "Live
Product Demo" and click on "Find Location).
Aston is, needless to say, in Delaware county.

Isn't that a weird coincidence?

7 of the 18 posts here are from jon.dsouza.

Coincidence?

There is a Delaware County, New York
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Delaware_County,_New_York

Coincidence?

There is a Delaware County, Iowa
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Delaware_County,_Iowa

Coincidence?

See anybody can play that game. Just add the word coincidence and
pretend you are making a point (which you weren't, by the way.)

And according to this

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Delawar...,_Pennsylvania

Delaware County, Pennsylvania has over 550,000 residents.
That's half a million in case you were wondering.

Rehoboth Beach in the state of Delaware is pretty damn far from
Delaware County Pennsylvania, New York, and Iowa.

What was your point by the way? That you don't know geography?

Trice lives in the state of Delaware according to the USCF, not
Delaware County, PA.

Since I'm a nighttime security guard and the company has subscriptions
to some of these online background check services, I did a little more
research on the address you listed. That same house was once owned by
a pro basketball player, Philadelphia 76er Hershey Hawkins. What
fargone conclusion will you draw from that I wonder?

Did some research on Brian Colgan. Guess what? He's in London, has
been in London over 6 months, and for most of 2007 also. So you're
saying Trice is living in the same house with Colgan's wife and kids
while he is away? Not very likely.

Did you know Trice renounced US citizenship in 2006 so he could pursue
the Fischer match and not go against US policy why a US citizen? He
had officially has sworn allegiance to the crown. Whether he is back
now as a US citizen is unknown. But what is certain is he rejected
dual citizenship.

Coincidence that Colgan is in London now? You tell me.

On 4 Jun, 13:17, wrote:
On 4 Jun, 06:05, wrote:



The Delaware addresses are both for a 40 year old with middle initial
"A".
The USCF ID page that I saw in one of the posts shows that Edward A
Trice lives in Delaware.
So, this must be the person in question.

The posts on the Chess Ninja page blame someone from PA for making
posts. Again, looks like a case of people jumping to a possible
conclusion.

I didn't pick up on this when I first read your message, but when I
did a bit of digging around I discovered that there is a Delaware
county in Pennsylvania.

Moreover, and this is where it gets interesting, the IP address that
you posted your message from (76.117.82.204) can be traced back to
Aston, Pennsylvania.
(go tohttp://www.ip2location.com/, enter 76.117.82.204 in the "Live
Product Demo" and click on "Find Location).
Aston is, needless to say, in Delaware county.

Isn't that a weird coincidence?

On Jun 4, 8:32*pm, wrote:
7 of the 18 posts here are from jon.dsouza.

Coincidence?

I believe that is much more of a coincidence that you ("victorrose")
have only posted on here 7 times .... EVER. And ALL 7 posts were in
defense of the ONLY posting I've ever seen about "Ed Trice" on this
chess group.

Everyone on here knows who you are .... "victorrose".

And by the way ....... it's HERSEY Hawkins, not HERSHEY. You would
think that you would know the difference, being a Pennsylvania
resident and all.