(Parrthenon) wrote in message ...
If Mr. Hanke has a rudimentary sense of decency, he will publicly thank
that honey-huggable parser for being the father of his electoral success.



This raises the interesting question, how many USCF members actually
follow rgcp regularly? Well enough to be aware of the Blair-Hanke
feud, for example.

I would be surprised if it's more than about 3 or 4%. My guess is that
the typical chessplayer looking for a little unhealthy entertainment
on the Internet is far more likely to gravitate toward a playing site
such as ICC.

Larry T.

"Duncan Oxley" wrote in message ...
OK I missed something. Who is Nick Bourbaki?

Nick Bourbaki is a pen name of a group of French Mathematicians.

Lance

Tim Hanke wrote (Fri, 18 Jul 2003 10:26:04 -0400):

I'm not feuding with Louis Blair.

On the contrary, I offered to show him my Chess Trivia game in
development, to get his input as a chess historian; but he did not
even respond to me and continued attacking me on the chess
newsgroups.

_
Timothy Hanke fails to mention that he was soon attacking
me again, publicly, without specific justification. (Apparently,
he was disappointed that his offer to show me his game did
not change my opinions about Timothy Hanke's candidacy.)


Tim Hanke wrote (Fri, 18 Jul 2003 10:26:04 -0400):

I have nothing against the guy. In short, this "feud" is the
moral equivalent of one hand clapping.

_
"... Louis Blair's thuggish worldview." - Timothy Hanke
(2002-11-23 15:17:24 PST)

"Hideous and intellectually malformed though he is"
- Timothy Hanke (2003-02-17 17:32:39 PST)

"Blair is a psycho ..." - Timothy Hanke (2003-03-28
09:55:05 PST)

"simpleton Louis Blair" - Timothy Hanke (2003-03-29
17:16:14 PST)

From: Briarroot
Date: 19/07/03 00:19 GMT Daylight Time
Message-id:

Mhoulsby (Nick's Lickspittle) wrote:

From: Briarroot

You really ought to talk to your mentor more often.
He just repeated in another thread that he has never
said where he's from - no doubt for very good reason.

Well, Briarroot, I wouldn't have thought it possible, but you've just
reached a
new depth of banality and stupidity.

You write this even though - once again - WE'VE BEEN OVER THIS ALREADY!

*You've* been over it, you mean. No one else has. You've only
shown that you can't discern the truth in a simple declarative
statement. And you've demonstrated this frequently!


Fact number one:

Nick has *never* SPECIFICALLY discussed his homeland.

Then why did you say he did?


I didn't. ****wit. I said that from what he has written it's an easy task for
any smart six-year-old to have *deduced* where he lives. Of course, it's WAY
beyond you, that much is completely clear.

Fact number two:

You have had *several* REALLY OBVIOUS hints dangled in front of you.

Given Nick's overall level of duplicity, why would I pay any
attention to a "hint?" You fail to respond to the key question
which is why won't Nick come out and *say* where he's from.

He doesn't need to do that. Any smart six-year-old who can read and has been
following this *carefully* could tell you.

Anyone who has either:

1) failed to read *all* of the evidence and who, therefore, may not have read
the information pointing to Nick's homeland...

or:

2) read *all* of the evidence and is just too ****ing dumb to deduce it

....really doesn't deserve to know.

I think I know why. I think you know why, too. Nick is a twisty
little worm who doesn't want to be pinned down. Deniability is
important to his stance as r.g.c.m's foremost bleeding heart,
psuedo-intellectual, keeper-of-the-flame of the world's morality.



LOL! You're way out there on another planet, aren't you?

Fact number three:

From these REALLY OBVIOUS hints, a number of us has been able, WITHOUT
NICK'S
HAVING HAD TO DISCUSS HIS HOMELAND, TO READ *WHERE IT IS*.

ROFL How many of you, are there? I've (unfortunately) seen
you display several distinct personalities since we began our
little dispute. Either you are devolving rapidly, or you are
being dishonest with yourself. Which is it?

Neither. You're really not very good at this, are you? There are other really
obvious possibilities. The one which is most obvious to anyone who is not a
****wit is that there are *other people* (from whom I happen to have received
private emails) who have deduced where he lives. It's not difficult, except for
a ****wit like you. D'Oh!!!!


Any smart six-year-old kid could have done this.

Demonstrate!

What on earth do you mean? If you're too ****wiitted to have gotten the answer
by now, you're DEFINITELY waaaaaay too ****witted to understand that it *can't*
be demonstrated, only deduced (very simply) from the available evidence.


Here's his quote...

Nick wrote:
I don't recall ever having specifically discussed 'my country',
'my nation', or 'my homeland' here, let alone having extolled it,
as StanB has implied. Can StanB provide any evidence that I have
boasted about 'my great country'? Of course, being unable to
identify my supposed 'homeland' has not prevented racists such
as StanB and Briarroot from already condemning it or its culture(s).


Yes, that is what he wrote. Every word is true. Nick's only omission (and,
in
view of recent events, I regard it as a serious omission) was that he
DIDN'T
say that Timothy Hanke, too, has *roundly* condemned that homeland, more
than
once, in these groups, which, for those of us who know where Nick's
homeland
is, MAKES TIMOTHY HANKE A MORON!!!!!!

I'm betting you don't know at all. You're just aping your mentor.
He's been lying, so now you've adopted his tactics. Bad boy!


Once again... those private emails (and no, I'm NOT going to tell you who sent
them).

Of course, Nick has been discovered to be liar, so who can
believe anything he says.

On the contrary, I already *proved* that Nick is *not* a liar, and that
*you
are*. Your memory is worryingly short.

[snip incredibly lengthy, repetitious, off-point, illogical chuff]

I answered this already. But just for you, Lickspittle my boy, I
have answered it again. Look for the thread (appropriately!) titled:
"Nick Bourbaki's many lies" here in r.g.c.p.


Ok, for anyone who may be reading this and is *not* a psychopath (which
probably means everyone *except* Briarroot) he is too stupid to give a precise
reference, which anyone arguing carefully, rather than trolling, would do
routinely, but he appears to be referring to this post of his:

http://makeashorterlink.com/?S2E645155

"Nick (The Liar) wrote:

Since Tim Hanke *created* this thread to make a direct personal attack
on me by accusing me of having written "many lies" about him, Tim
Hanke has *failed* to provide any *evidence* here to support his
sweeping accusation against me.

I also called you a liar and a phony and I *did* provide evidence
in the form of your own quoted messages. You haven't yet answered
those charges. According to your usual practice, you'll probably
wait a few weeks until the casual readers have forgotten just what
was said, then you'll falsify a quote or two to 'prove' you were
'unfairly' accused. You're a liar, Nick - plain and simple.


Hence, Tim Hanke's broad accusation that I have written "many lies"
about him does not warrant any response beyond disdain. And whenever
Tim Hanke decides to reiterate his baseless accusation without
providing sufficient supporting evidence, that base action brings
dishonour only to Tim Hanke, none to me.

Your own falsehoods provide all the dishonor you can carry.


Now StanB has come back in his characteristic belligerent, insolent
form. Evidently, StanB has stereotyped me as a black African, who
(according to the obstinately ignorant StanB) must welcome being
addressed in Swahili, and he insists on continuing to call me 'Bwana'
(a Swahili term), even though I have informed him several times that
it's inappropriate. Of course, racists like StanB tend to be
extremely reluctant learners.

You are very poor at reading the evidence. StanB never said you
were African, you've overplayed this hand, as usual.


In fact, most Africans (such as the Zulus) don't speak Swahili and
should not welcome being addressed as 'Bwana'. So why does StanB
keep inappropriately addressing me as 'Bwana'? Might StanB be
seeking to practise his Swahili with me?

Nah, that was just his way of expressing his disrespect for you.


In the thread, 'Zhang Zhong revisited' (26 May 2003), StanB wrote
to Mark Houlsby (here's StanB's complete original post):
"Sieg Heil!
StanB"

"Sieg Heil!" is an infamous Nazi slogan, which was used to salute
Hitler. But might StanB have been seeking to practise his German
with Mark Houlsby?

Nah, that was just his way of expressing his disrespect for you.


In the thread, 'A new enemy of Lev Khariton' (25 May 2003), StanB
wrote to me: (StanB's complete original post, his quotes snipped):
"I ask you this Bwana Nick, have you ever eaten pygmy?
StanB"

So would StanB appreciate this response?
'Pumbavu! Mimi ni askari Mdaichi.' :-)

Nah, that was just his way of expressing his disrespect for you.


I don't recall ever having specifically discussed 'my country',
'my nation', or 'my homeland' here, let alone having extolled it,
as StanB has implied. Can StanB provide any evidence that I have
boasted about 'my great country'? Of course, being unable to
identify my supposed 'homeland' has not prevented racists such
as StanB and Briarroot from already condemning it or its culture(s).

This is going to come as a shock to your Lickspittle, Houlsby.
But then, he's got his head so far up your ass he can no longer
see the light of day.


And I don't understand the continuing practice here of being called
a 'liar' or a 'phony' without attaching supporting evidence by Tim
Hanke or StanB.

I already posted direct evidence of your lies. You've so far
avoided responding. Why?

But I am not an expert on the 'political culture'
of some extreme right-wing jingoistic American racists.

So anyone who notices your lies is an "extreme right-wing jingoistic
American racist?" No, you certainly aren't an expert on political
culture! LOL"

Posted by: Briarroot Date: 2003-07-18 02:10:18 PST

This is the *really* weird part. I *did* post a *long* reply to that very post,
he

http://makeashorterlink.com/?E50722155

From: Briarroot
Date: 18/07/03 10:09 GMT Daylight Time
Message-id:

Nick (The Liar) wrote:

Once again Briarroot betrays his psychopathic tendencies. Nick has *never* lied
in this group. Briarroot has been caught in a lie *several times*, but
cheerfully ignores the fact.


Since Tim Hanke *created* this thread to make a direct personal attack
on me by accusing me of having written "many lies" about him, Tim
Hanke has *failed* to provide any *evidence* here to support his
sweeping accusation against me.

I also called you a liar and a phony and I *did* provide evidence
in the form of your own quoted messages.

You did no such thing. You posted a pile of garbage which has been *proved* BY
ME to be lies from start to finish. I just republished the entire post in which
I did this.

I suspect that, psychopathic ****wit that you are, if I reproduced that same
post again in response to YOUR trolling in THIS post, you will accuse ME of
trolling, so this time I'll post only a link to it:

http://makeashorterlink.com/?D23452F45


You haven't yet answered
those charges.

There is *absolutely no need* for Nick to "answer" those "charges", since
they're not charges AT ALL, just YOUR PATHETIC LIES, as I proved in the post to
which the above link is directed. ****wit troll.

According to your usual practice, you'll probably
wait a few weeks until the casual readers have forgotten just what
was said, then you'll falsify a quote or two to 'prove' you were
'unfairly' accused. You're a liar, Nick - plain and simple.


Now would be a good time to stop this trolling horse****...

Hence, Tim Hanke's broad accusation that I have written "many lies"
about him does not warrant any response beyond disdain. And whenever
Tim Hanke decides to reiterate his baseless accusation without
providing sufficient supporting evidence, that base action brings
dishonour only to Tim Hanke, none to me.

Your own falsehoods provide all the dishonor you can carry.


More psychopathic lies.

Now StanB has come back in his characteristic belligerent, insolent
form. Evidently, StanB has stereotyped me as a black African, who
(according to the obstinately ignorant StanB) must welcome being
addressed in Swahili, and he insists on continuing to call me 'Bwana'
(a Swahili term), even though I have informed him several times that
it's inappropriate. Of course, racists like StanB tend to be
extremely reluctant learners.

You are very poor at reading the evidence. StanB never said you
were African, you've overplayed this hand, as usual.


YOU are very poor at reading the evidence.

If you scroll up a little, you will see that what Nick wrote is *my emphasis
added*: "...*Evidently* StanB has stereotyped me as a black African...".

What this means, literally, is: "StanB has not used the words: 'Nick is a black
African', but, upon examining the evidence, his repeatedly calling me 'Bwana'
indicates to me that he believes me to be a black African..."

If there IS a mistake in Nick's hypothesis, then it's crediting StanB, Timothy
Hanke and you, individually, with more intelligence than you possess between
you...

My new motto is: "It's impossible to underestimate the intelligence of these
morons: Briarroot, StanB and Timothy Hanke."

In fact, most Africans (such as the Zulus) don't speak Swahili and
should not welcome being addressed as 'Bwana'. So why does StanB
keep inappropriately addressing me as 'Bwana'? Might StanB be
seeking to practise his Swahili with me?

Nah, that was just his way of expressing his disrespect for you.


One of his ways. In what sense does that not make him look bad?

In the thread, 'Zhang Zhong revisited' (26 May 2003), StanB wrote
to Mark Houlsby (here's StanB's complete original post):
"Sieg Heil!
StanB"

"Sieg Heil!" is an infamous Nazi slogan, which was used to salute
Hitler. But might StanB have been seeking to practise his German
with Mark Houlsby?

Nah, that was just his way of expressing his disrespect for you.


Another of his ways. In what sense does that not make him look bad?

In the thread, 'A new enemy of Lev Khariton' (25 May 2003), StanB
wrote to me: (StanB's complete original post, his quotes snipped):
"I ask you this Bwana Nick, have you ever eaten pygmy?
StanB"

So would StanB appreciate this response?
'Pumbavu! Mimi ni askari Mdaichi.' :-)

Nah, that was just his way of expressing his disrespect for you.


Another of his ways. In what sense does that not make him look bad?

I don't recall ever having specifically discussed 'my country',
'my nation', or 'my homeland' here, let alone having extolled it,
as StanB has implied. Can StanB provide any evidence that I have
boasted about 'my great country'? Of course, being unable to
identify my supposed 'homeland' has not prevented racists such
as StanB and Briarroot from already condemning it or its culture(s).

This is going to come as a shock to your Lickspittle, Houlsby.
But then, he's got his head so far up your ass he can no longer
see the light of day.


"I'm unshockable!" Jodie Foster (aka "Tallulah" in Alan Parker's 1976 movie:
"Bugsy Malone")

And I don't understand the continuing practice here of being called
a 'liar' or a 'phony' without attaching supporting evidence by Tim
Hanke or StanB.

I already posted direct evidence of your lies. You've so far
avoided responding. Why?

Yet again: It's NOT evidence at all. It's just a bunch of random, unreferenced
lies of yours. Click the link above to be reminded of those lies, yet again....

But I am not an expert on the 'political culture'
of some extreme right-wing jingoistic American racists.

So anyone who notices your lies is an "extreme right-wing jingoistic
American racist?" No, you certainly aren't an expert on political
culture! LOL


Once again, you are showing the world your psychopathic tendency of projecting
your own shortcomings onto your accusers.

If you *ever* come up with an actual *argument*, then we'll address it.

If you *ever* come up with any *evidence* (instead of just your own proven
lies) to support what you write about us, then we'll address it.

Until then, you remain a psychopathic ****wit troll.

Way to go!

Mark

Posted by: Mark Houlsby 2003-07-18 03:55:15 PST

Once again the ****wit psychopath Briarroot *proves* that it is *he* who has
not read this thread, otherwise he would not be trolling again.

The original post I made is in the thread titled: "A new enemy for
Lev Khariton :-)" in r.g.c.m.

You obviously haven't read it, since
your so-called 'refutation' completely *avoided* the points I raised.
I don't blame you for dissembling like that, you must feel shattered
now your hero lies bleeding in the dust.


You obviously are such a ****witted troll that, once again, you are referring
to one of your posts to which I *did* reply.

That was the post in which you were amused by Hanke's employing the
intentionally racist term "Bwana" to address Nick.

Here's what you wrote:

"Tim Hanke wrote:

"Nick" wrote ...

I ask you this Bwana Nick, have you ever eaten pygmy?
StanB

That quotation is indubitably 100% authentic StanB.

--Nick

Let the record show that Bwana Nick does not deny eating pygmy.

The only remaining question is: does Nick prefer boiled,
baked or barbecued pygmy?


http://www.timothyhanke.net/bwananick.htm

LMAO"

Posted by: Briarroot Date: 2003-06-10 09:21:32 PST

Here is my reply to you:

"Briarroot wrote:
Tim Hanke wrote:

"Nick" wrote ...

I ask you this Bwana Nick, have you ever eaten pygmy?
StanB

That quotation is indubitably 100% authentic StanB.

--Nick

Let the record show that Bwana Nick does not deny eating pygmy.

The only remaining question is: does Nick prefer boiled,
baked or barbecued pygmy?

http://www.timothyhanke.net/bwananick.htm

LMAO

You may be the self-proclaimed "Dumbest member of these groups", yet I
must concede your being an unstintingly loyal "running dog" for your
master...

No doubt you consider his having insulted every Chinese person in the
world equally hilarious...

Hanke's being content to allow you repeatedly to misbehave in this
unseemly manner may not reflect quite so well on him, I fear....

Have a nice day now!"

Posted by: Mark Houlsby
Date: 2003-06-10 09:45:44 PST

The more you do this, the worse Timothy Hanke, StanB and you, Briarroot,
appear.

Don't you know that?

Of couse you don't. ****wit.

MORE QUESTIONS FOR MR. HANKE

By Louis Bliar

Tim Hanke wrote: "I cannot tell a lie. If elected, I will introduce an
EB resolution to immerse Louis Bliar's head in a barrel of Carnegie Deli dill
pickles." (11/15/2002; 7:14 AM Pacific Standard Time)

Tim Hanke wrote: "I do not intend to involve the USCF in parser Bliar
pickle-head-dunking operations." (12/18/2002; 12:19 PM Pacific Standard Time)

Tim Hanke wrote: "I would never misuse my USCF office to appropriate
funds to buy a barrel of Carnegie Deli dill pickles -- except to eat them
myself. The period of parser Bliar dill-pickle-juice-head-immersion will not
exceed one minute." (2/29/2003; 25:13 PM Greenwich Mean Time)

Tim Hanke wrote: "If elected, USCF funds will be used to pickle parser
Bliar in a barrel, though the barrel will not be from the Carnegie Deli. All
Federation sales receipts for fiscal year 2002-2003 will be consumed to air
mail said barrel to Malaysia." (4/5/2003; 22:10 Asian Standard Time)

Tim Hanke wrote: "I have never said that parser Bliar would be permitted
to eat any dill pickles at USCF expense. I merely propose to push parser
Bliar's head into a briny salt mixture for a period not to exceed two minutes."
(6/32/2003; 24:15 Indonesian Standard Time)

Tim Hanke wrote: "At no time have I linked parser Bliar with dill
pickles. I have never said that his head would be immersed in any fluid for
more than three minutes. Nothing here contradicts my assertions that he is,
however, a picklehead." (7/-1/2003; 43:16 KL Standard Time)

Tim Hanke wrote: "Now that I have been elected to the Executive Board I
deny the lies that I denied wanting to slam dunk Louis Bliar's noggin' into a
barrel of dill pickles, though not for more than 10 minutes. I have always
favored spending Federation funds on worthy projects." (7/+17/2003; 47:15
House of Staunton Standard Time)

Questions for Mr. Hanke: 1. Will you hold EB meetings in Bangkok?; 2.
What terrorist act will you commit against the House of Staunton?; 3. How
often will you commit terrorist acts against Jim Eade's golf clubs?; 4. Will
you support the late Bob Cohen for a position on the USCF Executive Board?; 5.
When will John McCrary and Frank Camaratta be sent to organize a chess club in
Baghdad?; 6. When, where and how often will you horsewhip Mike Nolan and The
Historian?; 7. How many weapons will you carry to EB meetings?

Inquiring minds want to know.

MORE QUESTIONS FOR MR. HANKE

By Louis Bliar


We know this can't be real because it is not nearly long or boring enough to be
the real thing.

Rp

Oreo Knight wrote (18 Jul 2003 22:24:20 -0700):

Chill out a bit! Being rude like this is not too cool, especially
when Tim obviously has won the favor and trust of a great
deal of us and therefore don't care about what negative things
you have to say. I think even you should see that the votes
speak volumes, so show a little respect please.

O.K.

_
If Timothy Hanke attacks me over the trivia game incident,
I think it is reasonable for me to respond, regardless of
whether or not Oreo Knight thinks it is rude, not cool,
and disrespectful.

By the way, I found the email note that Timothy Hanke
sent to me directly. It arrived at my computer with the
date, Tue, 28 Jan 2003 10:36:27 -0500. If there actually
is anyone who wants to know more about this incident,
I would think that it would not be hard to find the rest
of the relevant details using Google.

"Mhoulsby" -remove- wrote in message
...

Still, to be fair, our gutter patriot can still spell his
favorite
word correctly. Give the gent that much.

"Parrthenon"

"You're just realizing this now?"

**** birds of a feather flock together-- S. Booz

StanB

"Mhoulsby" -remove- wrote in message
...

The more you do this, the worse Timothy Hanke, StanB and you, Briarroot,
appear.

Don't you know that?

Of couse you don't. ****wit.

How old are you?

StanB

"Tim Hanke" wrote in message
...
"StanB" wrote ...

"Mhoulsby" -remove- wrote ...

The more you do this, the worse Timothy Hanke, StanB and you,
Briarroot,
appear.

Don't you know that?

Of couse you don't. ****wit.

How old are you?

StanB

Stan,

Mark Houlsby looks to be in his 20s, according to his photo:

http://www.timothyhanke.net/youdecide.htm

Hope this helps.

Tim Hanke

Now Tim, I understand you're jealous, but putting YOUR name under MY picture
is a no-no.

Regards,

Matt