On Mon, 21 Jul 2003 03:06:24 GMT, "Tim Hanke"
wrote:

"George John" wrote ...

If the USCF and Tim entered into an agreement to sell his game AFTER he
becomes a board member, based upon my current understanding of the USCF's
COI rules, I would see that as a COI problem.

George,

My chess trivia game does not currently exist in salable form, and I have no
plans to produce it, let alone sell it to or through USCF. I wouldn't waste
time discussing it if I were you.

Tim Hanke

In that case, you have certainly wasted our time by bringing it up
again and again in dozens of posts over a period of months.

Sam Sloan

From: (Sam Sloan)
Date: 21/07/03 10:01 GMT Daylight Time
Message-id:

On Mon, 21 Jul 2003 03:06:24 GMT, "Tim Hanke"
wrote:

"George John" wrote ...

If the USCF and Tim entered into an agreement to sell his game AFTER he
becomes a board member, based upon my current understanding of the USCF's
COI rules, I would see that as a COI problem.

George,

My chess trivia game does not currently exist in salable form, and I have no
plans to produce it, let alone sell it to or through USCF. I wouldn't waste
time discussing it if I were you.

Tim Hanke

In that case, you have certainly wasted our time by bringing it up
again and again in dozens of posts over a period of months.

Sam Sloan



There speaks a world authority upon the subject of wasting time (and bandwidth)
bringing up nonsense again and again in dozens of posts. Better take heed,
Timothy! Sam knows of what he speaks (for once).

In that case, you have certainly wasted our time by bringing it up
again and again in dozens of posts over a period of months.

Sam Sloan


Funny, you're the one that's wasted our time by sending us a dozen posts on
this topic.

John Fernandez

"George John" wrote in message
. ..

Do you still beat your wife? George, I'm not a lawyer and neither are
you.

You are correct that neither of us are lawyers. I take it you aren't
interested in offering a non-legal opinion on this matter, and are content
with heckling those that have a genuine interest in what the USCF's COI
actually is, and helping its leadership identify and avoid any potential
COI
issues, something the Board of Delegates have clearly directed the Board
to
do.

I enjoy heckling those who would cite the bylaws just to make political hay.

StanB

"Mhoulsby" -remove- wrote in message
...

George,

Stan is an ill-mannered trolling moron. You should know that by now.

http://makeashorterlink.com/?P68721555

"I ask you this Bwana Nick, have you ever eaten pygmy?"

George and I have chatted in person many times. I even signed his petition
in St. Paul. Now do run along little boy. I hear you're mommy calling you.

StanB

From: "StanB"
Date: 21/07/03 13:12 GMT Daylight Time
Message-id:


"Mhoulsby" -remove- wrote in message
...

George,

Stan is an ill-mannered trolling moron. You should know that by now.

http://makeashorterlink.com/?P68721555

"I ask you this Bwana Nick, have you ever eaten pygmy?"

George and I have chatted in person many times. I even signed his petition
in St. Paul. Now do run along little boy. I hear you're mommy calling you.

StanB


I'm not mommy. You're beginning to seem as illiterate as Sloan, which is quite
an achievement.

Mark

On 21 Jul 2003 10:43:41 GMT, eepmeep (John
Fernandez) wrote:

In that case, you have certainly wasted our time by bringing it up
again and again in dozens of posts over a period of months.

Sam Sloan


Funny, you're the one that's wasted our time by sending us a dozen posts on
this topic.

John Fernandez

Have you counted the number of times Hanke has posted about his chess
trivia game? He started posting about it last year. He first
complained that the USCF had not responded to his e-mails asking that
his game be sold on a drop-ship basis where he would give the USCF a
25% "cut". I paid no attention to this and did not even notice it for
months. Then, Hanke said that he was runnng for USCF Election as a way
to force the USCF to sell his game. People started paying attention
then.

Sam Sloan

"Mhoulsby" -remove- wrote in message
...

http://makeashorterlink.com/?P68721555

"I ask you this Bwana Nick, have you ever eaten pygmy?"

George and I have chatted in person many times. I even signed his
petition
in St. Paul. Now do run along little boy. I hear your mommy calling you.

I'm not mommy. You're beginning to seem as illiterate as Sloan, which is
quite
an achievement.

Thanks for proving my point again.

StanB

On Mon, 21 Jul 2003 03:37:37 GMT, "George John"
wrote:


"StanB" wrote in message
news

"George John" wrote in message
. ..

Would it be fair to say that you have read the USCF document in question
and
see no issues whatsoever with any of the current Board members and the
B&E
business in light of this document's COI prohibitions. Or, are you just
comfortable with THIS rules violation?

Do you still beat your wife? George, I'm not a lawyer and neither are you.

You are correct that neither of us are lawyers. I take it you aren't
interested in offering a non-legal opinion on this matter, and are content
with heckling those that have a genuine interest in what the USCF's COI
actually is, and helping its leadership identify and avoid any potential COI
issues, something the Board of Delegates have clearly directed the Board to
do.

George

I happen to know exactly what the law is on this subject. The law is
that when the terms are doubtful or ambiguous, the courts look to
legislative intent.

The reason I know this is that this was the exact issue in my case in
the United States Supreme Court which I won 9-0.
http://www.samsloan.com/sec.htm

I interpreted the statute one way. The SEC interpreted the statute
another way. The court decided that I was right and I won.

In the case presented here, the issue concerned the 1997 US Open in
Orlando, Florida. Goichberg was the organizer. After his bid had been
accepted, Goichberg asked that both the prizes and the entry fees be
raised. This was done more than one year before the event took place.

Goichberg was then elected to the board. Dorsch complained about
conflict of interest. Dorsch had been entrusted to re-write the
by-laws, so Dorsch inserted this provision for the purpose of making
what Goichberg did illegal. These by-laws were adopted in 1998 in
Hawaii.

At no time has this provision ever been intended to stop books and
equipment vendors from selling books and equipment to the USCF.
Therefore, George John's interpretation of this provision is entirely
bogus.

Sam Sloan

From: "StanB"
Date: 21/07/03 13:27 GMT Daylight Time
Message-id:


"Mhoulsby" -remove- wrote in message
...

http://makeashorterlink.com/?P68721555

"I ask you this Bwana Nick, have you ever eaten pygmy?"

George and I have chatted in person many times. I even signed his
petition
in St. Paul. Now do run along little boy. I hear your mommy calling you.

I'm not mommy. You're beginning to seem as illiterate as Sloan, which is
quite
an achievement.

Thanks for proving my point again.

StanB


Ok. I'll give you that one... :-)

Mark