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Last month the update was very late. This month it is even later. I
assume it's because of the chaos created from the elections. Does anyone have them yet? |
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"Peter C. Nixon" wrote in message ... Thanks Mike. I have posted your numbers to: http://detroitchess.com/USCFmem2.htm Down and down we go. In a spin, luvva that spin we're in. StanB |
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"Down and down we go. In a spin, luvva that spin we're in." (StanB)
============== Maybe BG's World Open helped slow the decline for the early July figures. We'll see what the coming month shows. (RSHaas) |
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Peter,
Thanks; for a long while I have had a link to your numbers at my web site. Last year the Main Line CC had about 110 members, almost all USCF, and this year we may have more by the end of the year. The roster is about 75% adults. That means over 0.3% of adult members of USCF are members of our club (which requires USCF membership to play in our weekly rated events - a couple of members like myself are life members). I am not sure if I am happy or sad we have such a high percentage of all adult USCF members in the country! - Dan Heisman |
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That means over 0.3% of adult members of USCF are members of our club (which
requires USCF membership to play in our weekly rated events - a couple of members like myself are life members). I am not sure if I am happy or sad we have such a high percentage of all adult USCF members in the country! If Goichberg retired USCF adult membership would really sink into the depths. |
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"Bruce Draney" wrote ...
The only way for USCF to survive in my opinion is to find some way to capitalize the market ... Bruce, Richard Haas has an idea he would like to discuss with you.... Seriously, I think it may be necessary to blow up the whole organization and reconstitute it from scratch. Here's what I think USCF should do, as its core activities, and the number of staff I guesstimate would be required to accomplish these core activities. 1. Provide an accurate and timely rating service: Two staff doing data input and running reports. 2. Edit and produce "Chess Life." Three staff: one editor, one graphic designer, and one editorial assistant. 3. Design and maintain the website. Three staff: one editor, one graphic designer, one programmer. But this is bare-bones; you might want one or two additional staff if having a really kick-*ss website is your goal. 4. Executive Director to keep the inmates in line. One staff. 5. Executive Assistant to ED. One staff. 5. Bookkeeper and financial assistant. Two staff. 6. Office manager. One staff. 7. Postal chess. Zero staff. 8. Books & Equipment. Zero staff. 8. Provide clerical support for the national office. Four staff. 9. Provide IT support for the national office. Three staff. I come up with 20 staff, one-half of the current operation's size. OK, I'm sure I've missed something, and there are a few functions we are currently performing that would no longer be performed. But maybe those functions can be performed by volunteers, or dropped. I mean, look: I'd like USCF to do a thousand-and-one wonderful things, but if the money's not there, it's not there. USCF isn't like the federal government which can just print more money when the money runs out. Tim Hanke |
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The only way for USCF to survive in my opinion is to find some way to capitalize the market for scholastic chess. Adult chess is going the way of the dinosaur and clearly the future of USCF lies in the profitability of being the official rater of scholastic tournaments. Recently Mike Nolan's preliminary analysis confirms what I have long suspected and that is that the USCF LOSES money on the one service that members value the most which is the rating system. I don't know if Mike's figures have been carefully analyzed or critiqued, but I find it ironic, if not ludicrous that USCF could have been losing money on ratings for years and not even known. Best Regards, Bruce IMO adult chess is not going the way of the dinosaur; the internet is making it easier for adults who work, have families, et al (such as myself) to play chess at our leisure. Certainly this approach is much easier than taking out a whole weekend to play a tournament or drive to a remote location to play when I can do it from the privacy of my home. I have a rating where I play online, so I don't know why I also need a USCF rating. I was a USCF member for 10 years but I no longer feel the need to belong to that organization. Perhaps it's the USCF that has become the dinosaur here. "Ever since I lost a lung to cancer, I've cut my smoking in half" Tony D. |
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Some good ideas in here; I'll save Eade's message.
Tim Hanke "JimEade" wrote in message ... Hi Bruce, Do you remember this old thread? From: JimEade ) Subject: Clash of the Titans, Eade vs. Petrel. Original Format Newsgroups: rec.games.chess.politics Date: 2001-07-16 15:37:19 PST Bruce Draney wrote: snip Bruce, you are correct that I think tournament OTB growth will always be marginal in this country. You're also correct that there has been a relative absence of ideas about how to make significant change to the organization, so that it's better suited to carry out its mission. I have quite liked some of mine though. ;-) One way to reinvent the organizaton is to get out of the books and equipment business, sell the building, move to a cheaper location, cut staff to the bone, publish the magazine quarterly, fill it mostly with ads, concentrate on ratings and certification (TD levels and Championships for example) and cut dues to no more than $15, probably less. Make it easy and pleasurable for the casual player to feel a part of the organization, even if they never play a serious game in their lives. I'll almost certainly never play in a USGA tournament, but I send them $15 every year. They send me a US Open Cap, a name tag that goes on my bag, and a quarterly magazine that I don't read (I subscribe to two others). Make it a pure feel good thing for the millions of people who have some relationship to the game, but no desire whatsoever to compete OTB. Drive membership up over a quarter million and go after sponsors and advertizers big time. Right now we're too small to matter except to other small businesses. Do I think any of that is likely to happen? No, but the old model doesn't seem to work anymore, and we need a new one. James Eade Same tune different year... Instead of a foolish attempt to revive the B+E business, we should outsource virtually everything except the rulebook. The move to anycheapplace, USA is one piece of the answer, but it won't matter, if it isn't done as part of a larger coherent strategy. The USCF must be reinvented in order to remain relevant. It has become increasingly obvious that the pattern of stagnation and decline will not be reversed by any of the old ideas. (I bet you're shocked, SHOCKED that the Grand Prix wasn't the answer.) I don't know whether you're going to be in LA. I'm off to Europe, but will be back in time to attend the Trust meeting on that Thursday. Tim Just and I have a $10 bet (from years ago) that was settled by the outcome of this election. We just can't remember who won. Richard Koepcke is holding the money and he'll be there. Be at the bar when he is, because $10 doesn't go very far these days. Incidentally, this year I sent the USGA $55 for an upgraded membership class. I still feel goodwill towards the USGA. James Eade Remove the Sheesh to respond. Don't worry. Talk happy. |
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