Because in such simuls, the hall is rented out for a particular amount of
time,
and a dinner is scheduled afterwards. In Kasparov's experience, playing
against
a player 2000 or better causes the simul to go much longer, and ruins the
organizer's plans for the evening. The event was NOT just a simul.

Then he could have offered to set the game aside and finish it at G/15 or
something afterwards.

Far as I'm concerned, Kasparov LOST that game.

Sounds like Garry was losing!

If the rating tourney was 2000 or less and a 2084 player jumps in, then the
2084 player has broken the rules and should leave the table. He did the
right thing by leaving!

Sure, if the technicalities count.

If I ran FIDE I'd have stripped him of his title or immediately made him play
the #1 ranked challenger.

Oh wait, his title WAS stripped the old-fashioned way, wasn't it?

Your forgot a key rule....as soon as he started setting up the pieces you
should have yelled, "woo hoo I won!"

"Scott" wrote in message
m...
http://www.mrfixitonline.com/readTop...tingId=1366118

"Kasparov rather nervously asked me if I had a rating. I replied 2084
and he, not looking very happy, asked why I didn't write it down in
front of the board next to my name. I replied that no one asked me too
and that the Belzberg people knew my rating and only today OK my
playing since I am a client. He then stated that if he had known I was
rated that highly he would have played differently rather than getting
into a very theoretical line. Being aware of the 2000 cutoff I again
appologized for the misunderstanding and we quickly realized that the
Belzberg staff had erred in not telling people to write down their
ratings (these were different people than from the NYC event). I
simply stated "I'm sorry for the confusion, I won't play " and started
to get up and Garry, reiterating that he'd have played differently vs
a rated expert, started resetting the pieces to the starting position
and said we can restart. Being rather shocked by this and what was
over a minute of commotion and confusion I knew the gentlemanly thing
for me to do was to step away and let someone else under 2000 play."

eepmeep (John Fernandez) wrote in message ...
I do not understand why Kasparov has an issue with this. He is widely
recognized for his opening preparation. In a small scale simul such as
this, should he not be able to mop the floor with a 2084 player? Why
does he even care?

Regards,
Fred.

Because in such simuls, the hall is rented out for a particular amount of time,
and a dinner is scheduled afterwards. In Kasparov's experience, playing against
a player 2000 or better causes the simul to go much longer, and ruins the
organizer's plans for the evening. The event was NOT just a simul.

John Fernandez

Actually, the dinner was served during the simul and I suspect that
they could have used the lounge at the Chicago Board Options Exchange
for as long as they needed it.

The event was intended to be an entertaining evening for the
organizer's clients. In addition to the book and the dinner, the
players also got to keep the sets and boards which list for around
$40.

I was asked to sign an affidavit stating that my rating had never been
over 2000 but I was not asked to disclose it, however, someone had
looked it up and Kasparov knew that I was rated 1959.

Kasparov could have mopped the floor with any expert (as he did with
me) but he did not want to work that hard or that long. When you are
the strongest player in the world, you can set the conditions for your
simul a little more advantageously than a lesser GM. I would have
liked it if there had been a few more decent players to slow him down
so I would have had a little more time to think, but since I did not
pay to play, I really can't complain.

Vince Hart

Judging from the original post, Kazaross [the OP] doesn't feel cheated
in any sense and isn't bitter about the way things went. It was a case
of simple misunderstanding, where both parties involved did the right
thing.

Slightly OT, would I, a player rated around 1500 on a good day,
enjoy/understand Kaspy's book about his match vs the world? I
remember, it was a big thrill participating in it and I got a
[cheaper] thrill in the end by calling Danny "The Dunce" King by that
name, when it was apparent that the game was over.




(Scott) wrote in message om...
http://www.mrfixitonline.com/readTop...tingId=1366118

"Kasparov rather nervously asked me if I had a rating. I replied 2084
and he, not looking very happy, asked why I didn't write it down in
front of the board next to my name. I replied that no one asked me too
and that the Belzberg people knew my rating and only today OK my
playing since I am a client. He then stated that if he had known I was
rated that highly he would have played differently rather than getting
into a very theoretical line. Being aware of the 2000 cutoff I again
appologized for the misunderstanding and we quickly realized that the
Belzberg staff had erred in not telling people to write down their
ratings (these were different people than from the NYC event). I
simply stated "I'm sorry for the confusion, I won't play " and started
to get up and Garry, reiterating that he'd have played differently vs
a rated expert, started resetting the pieces to the starting position
and said we can restart. Being rather shocked by this and what was
over a minute of commotion and confusion I knew the gentlemanly thing
for me to do was to step away and let someone else under 2000 play."

Sure, if the technicalities count.

There were ground rules.
Technicalities do count.

It sounds as if you are trolling for Kasparov.

Rp

Because in such simuls, the hall is rented out for a particular amount of
time,
and a dinner is scheduled afterwards. In Kasparov's experience, playing
against
a player 2000 or better causes the simul to go much longer, and ruins the
organizer's plans for the evening. The event was NOT just a simul.

John Fernandez

Actually, the dinner was served during the simul and I suspect that
they could have used the lounge at the Chicago Board Options Exchange
for as long as they needed it.

The event was intended to be an entertaining evening for the
organizer's clients. In addition to the book and the dinner, the
players also got to keep the sets and boards which list for around
$40.

I was asked to sign an affidavit stating that my rating had never been
over 2000 but I was not asked to disclose it, however, someone had
looked it up and Kasparov knew that I was rated 1959.

Kasparov could have mopped the floor with any expert (as he did with
me) but he did not want to work that hard or that long. When you are
the strongest player in the world, you can set the conditions for your
simul a little more advantageously than a lesser GM. I would have
liked it if there had been a few more decent players to slow him down
so I would have had a little more time to think, but since I did not
pay to play, I really can't complain.

I disagree.

Kasparov should have sucked it up and played on, while the player should have
resigned.

Sure, if the technicalities count.

There were ground rules.
Technicalities do count.

It sounds as if you are trolling for Kasparov.

Hardly.

A champion shouldn't rely on technicalities to win a simul. Conduct ubecoming.

The player may have broken the rules, but that's secondary.

"LeModernCaveman" wrote in message
...
I would have offered to tutor him in the main line openings and walked
away
while laughing my head off.

Yeah, we knew that. Thanks anyway...

--
Looney
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"LeModernCaveman" wrote in message
...
Because in such simuls, the hall is rented out for a particular amount of
time,
and a dinner is scheduled afterwards. In Kasparov's experience, playing
against
a player 2000 or better causes the simul to go much longer, and ruins the
organizer's plans for the evening. The event was NOT just a simul.

Then he could have offered to set the game aside and finish it at G/15 or
something afterwards.

Far as I'm concerned, Kasparov LOST that game.

Good thing nobody *asked* you...

--
Looney
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http://www.patzersprogress.com