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  #11  
Old August 11th 03, 08:18 AM
Kenneth Sloan
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(James B. Shearer) writes:

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Not that I want to give Draney a stroke or anything but this was
in fact reported on Bill Goichberg's chessnews.org website and is not
on the USCF website as far as I can tell.


I found it on the front page of the USCF website.

Goichberg also reports that
it is rumored that McCrary is going to resign from the board and that
the delegates referred a lot of motions to the new board to give them
a free hand.


No more than usual, and for the usual reasons - many Delegate Motions
are either half-baked, or involve actions that the EB can do without
prior authorization. Rather that attempt to fully-bake the ideas (which
usually requires data and/or analysis that the maker of the motion
didn't bother to do beforehand), the Delegates like to say "that's an
interesting idea - let's let the EB decide if it really makes sense".

To understand this, you also need to know that some Delegate Motions are
made simply to allow the maker to vent (this concept should be familiar
to readers here). Once the venting is over, the most polite way to pat
the maker on the head and say "there, there...it's all right now" is to
refer to the EB...or (better) a Committee...and move on to something
important enough and appropriate enough for the delegates' limited time.

James B. Shearer


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Kenneth Sloan

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University of Alabama at Birmingham FAX (205) 934-5473
Birmingham, AL 35294-1170
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  #12  
Old August 11th 03, 08:20 AM
Kenneth Sloan
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Bruce Draney writes:

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My primary concern and I told Beatriz this, was that she would ignore
adult chess problems and concerns and would spend all of her time and
attention catering to the special interests of scholastic chess.


Why would you expect the General Secretary of the Americas (a FIDE post)
to be *only* interested in scholastics?

...



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Kenneth Sloan
Computer and Information Sciences (205) 934-2213
University of Alabama at Birmingham FAX (205) 934-5473
Birmingham, AL 35294-1170
http://www.cis.uab.edu/info/faculty/sloan/
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Old August 11th 03, 08:23 AM
John Fernandez
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and is not
on the USCF website as far as I can tell.


It's been on the front page since this evening.

John Fernandez
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Old August 11th 03, 01:49 PM
Bill Smythe
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"James B. Shearer" wrote:
.... this was .... not ....
on the USCF website as far as I can tell. ....


When I first read that it was on USCF's website, my first reaction was, "Oh
gawd, how am I going to find it? Will be under Governance, or What's New,
or Tournaments (after all, this will affect tournaments), or Rules (after
all, this will affect rules), or B&E (after all, this will affect B&E)?"

Instead, wonder of wonders, it popped up on the front page.

Bill Smythe



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Old August 11th 03, 04:10 PM
Kenneth Sloan
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Bruce Draney writes:

Kenneth Sloan wrote:

Bruce Draney writes:

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My primary concern and I told Beatriz this, was that she would ignore
adult chess problems and concerns and would spend all of her time and
attention catering to the special interests of scholastic chess.


Why would you expect the General Secretary of the Americas (a FIDE post)
to be *only* interested in scholastics?

...


--
Kenneth Sloan
Computer and Information Sciences (205) 934-2213
University of Alabama at Birmingham FAX (205) 934-5473
Birmingham, AL 35294-1170
http://www.cis.uab.edu/info/faculty/sloan/


Because she was Scholastic Director at USCF and she has been heavily
involved in Scholastic Chess as a member of the Scholastic Council and
she has been involved in numerous camps and programs related to
Scholastic Chess, dating back over the past decade. But other than
these few things, I can't really think of any reasons.


In other words, you remembered *half* of her background, and came to the
conclusion that her future would look *only* like the half that you
chose to remember.

I understand now.



Best Regards,

Bruce


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Kenneth Sloan
Computer and Information Sciences (205) 934-2213
University of Alabama at Birmingham FAX (205) 934-5473
Birmingham, AL 35294-1170
http://www.cis.uab.edu/info/faculty/sloan/
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Old August 11th 03, 04:13 PM
Altes Wiesel
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"Bruce Draney" wrote in message
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SNIP

Let's see here, Beatriz is Pres. and Shutt is Vice President. Looks
like the scholastic takeover is almost complete.


Imagine your surprise when you find out who supported Beatriz for president.


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Old August 11th 03, 04:35 PM
Bruce Draney
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Kenneth Sloan wrote:

Bruce Draney writes:

Kenneth Sloan wrote:

Bruce Draney writes:

...
My primary concern and I told Beatriz this, was that she would ignore
adult chess problems and concerns and would spend all of her time and
attention catering to the special interests of scholastic chess.

Why would you expect the General Secretary of the Americas (a FIDE post)
to be *only* interested in scholastics?

...

--
Kenneth Sloan
Computer and Information Sciences (205) 934-2213
University of Alabama at Birmingham FAX (205) 934-5473
Birmingham, AL 35294-1170
http://www.cis.uab.edu/info/faculty/sloan/


Because she was Scholastic Director at USCF and she has been heavily
involved in Scholastic Chess as a member of the Scholastic Council and
she has been involved in numerous camps and programs related to
Scholastic Chess, dating back over the past decade. But other than
these few things, I can't really think of any reasons.


In other words, you remembered *half* of her background, and came to the
conclusion that her future would look *only* like the half that you
chose to remember.

I understand now.


Best Regards,

Bruce


--
Kenneth Sloan
Computer and Information Sciences (205) 934-2213
University of Alabama at Birmingham FAX (205) 934-5473
Birmingham, AL 35294-1170
http://www.cis.uab.edu/info/faculty/sloan/



I guess they do fractions differently in Alabama as the FIDE fluff
looks more like about a sixth of her background, but perhaps you have a
different view or perhaps you just enjoy taking a shot when the feeling
takes you.

On a serious note, how was the food in the local gathering places? Was
Booz there? Did he order scrod?

Best Regards,

Bruce
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Old August 11th 03, 05:43 PM
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I guess they do fractions differently in Alabama as the FIDE fluff
looks more like about a sixth of her background, but perhaps you have a
different view or perhaps you just enjoy taking a shot when the feeling
takes you.

On a serious note, how was the food in the local gathering places? Was
Booz there? Did he order scrod?

Best Regards,

Bruce


Ken may or may not answer for himself, but I think he is also pointing out that
Beatriz has done more than scholastics. She's an IWM, has played in the
Olympiads and serves in an important FIDE post.

She knows scholastics, she knows the office, she knows the politics, and she
knows the players. I was sincere in recommending her to become President (see
my weblog off of chess.com) in part because of her varied background. I don't
think it fair to paint her as only scholastic, but you are correct in that it
is her primary focus. She brings a lot more to the table than that, though.

I didn't think she had a realistic shot at it, but I must say the both Frank C.
and John McCrary looked like they'd been through the wringer. I'd never seen
Frank so listless. Maybe they just have had enough.

Yes, there was a StanB sighting. I've got a couple pictures of him. I also
got a picture of Ken Sloan (another which captures just the back of his head,
but that was an accident) I told him I wanted to own the copyright, but he
fired back that I didn't own the modeling rights. It took about ten minutes
for that to sink in!


James Eade
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Old August 11th 03, 08:44 PM
James B. Shearer
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"Bill Smythe" wrote in message ...
"James B. Shearer" wrote:
.... this was .... not ....
on the USCF website as far as I can tell. ....


When I first read that it was on USCF's website, my first reaction was, "Oh
gawd, how am I going to find it? Will be under Governance, or What's New,
or Tournaments (after all, this will affect tournaments), or Rules (after
all, this will affect rules), or B&E (after all, this will affect B&E)?"

Instead, wonder of wonders, it popped up on the front page.

Bill Smythe


The front page source has a html error (missing /table) which
causes netscape (the browser I normally use) to fail to display the
announcement. So the USCF gets credit for speed but not for accuracy.
James B. Shearer
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Old August 11th 03, 10:01 PM
John Fernandez
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Because she was Scholastic Director at USCF and she has been heavily
involved in Scholastic Chess as a member of the Scholastic Council and
she has been involved in numerous camps and programs related to
Scholastic Chess, dating back over the past decade. But other than
these few things, I can't really think of any reasons.

Best Regards,

Bruce


She's known as a scholastic person, but she also has a very good background in
serious chess. She knows what it is, unlike most people in this country. It's
the best sign I've seen in a long time that we're going to get things done.

John Fernandez
 




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