Yes, they can thank Don. Or just owe him one.

StanB

Don knows how to avoid blame, and assign it to others. He wouldn't want to be
an officer when they turn out the lights.
James Eade
Remove the Sheesh to respond. Don't worry. Talk happy.

"James B. Shearer" wrote in message
om...
"George John" wrote in message
m...
"James B. Shearer" wrote in message
m...

The front page source has a html error (missing /table) which
causes netscape (the browser I normally use) to fail to display the
announcement. So the USCF gets credit for speed but not for accuracy.

What version of Netscape are you using? It works fine for me with
version
7.0.

It does not work with version 4.76. Try the doctor html web site
for a report on the numerous html errors on the page. Browsers are
often pretty good at fixing up sloppy html but it is dangerous to rely
on this.

I like to use this one

http://validator.w3.org/

George

"Altes Wiesel" wrote in message
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"Bruce Draney" wrote in message
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SNIP

Let's see here, Beatriz is Pres. and Shutt is Vice President. Looks
like the scholastic takeover is almost complete.

Imagine your surprise when you find out who supported Beatriz for
president.

Message 35 in thread
From: Bill Smythe )
Subject: USCF's New Officers


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Date: 2003-08-11 20:06:02 PST


Care to share?

Bill SmytheNot Schutt. He supported McCrary. Donnie wanted the FIDE post,
and delivered Beatriz his vote to get it.

"Recmate" wrote in message
...

Not Schutt. He supported McCrary.

McCrary didn't run. The contenders were Beatriz and Camaratta.

McCrary was intending to run for some time...when he backed away isn't
totally clear. But I didn't say who Shutt voted for, did I?

Donnie wanted the FIDE post,
and delivered Beatriz his vote to get it.



I don't believe that Schultz wants either of USCF's two key FIDE posts.

Don wants FIDE influence. He has clearly expressed this many times,
sometimes when he doesn't seem to be aware of who may be listening. Based
on what I have heard, he will find a way to get the influence he wants.

He has
long supported the position that these should not be held by Board
members.
Kelleher remains FIDE Delegate and Tanner FIDE Zonal President.

Bill Goichberg

Altes Wiesel wrote:

"Recmate" wrote in message
...

Not Schutt. He supported McCrary.

McCrary didn't run. The contenders were Beatriz and Camaratta.

McCrary was intending to run for some time...when he backed away isn't
totally clear. But I didn't say who Shutt voted for, did I?

I'd say, what difference does it make who voted for whom? Schultz
already said he backed Beatriz and not Camaratta which was the biggest
surprise to me. Remember that Shutt was part of a slate that had
McCrary, Camaratta and Brady as a team in 2001. If Shutt didn't back
Marinello, it is a bit of a surprise, but certainly not a total shock.
Although both are scholastic types, I don't know if Shutt thought
Beatriz would be tough enough to face the music. Maybe Shutt still owed
favors to McCrary too.


Donnie wanted the FIDE post,
and delivered Beatriz his vote to get it.



I don't believe that Schultz wants either of USCF's two key FIDE posts.

Don wants FIDE influence. He has clearly expressed this many times,
sometimes when he doesn't seem to be aware of who may be listening. Based
on what I have heard, he will find a way to get the influence he wants.

LOL!!! USCF influence on FIDE seems to be virtually non-existent as one
generally follows the golden rule at FIDE. He who has the gold makes
the rules. In case you've not noticed USCF is not exactly rolling in
money right now, and their influence over FIDE and its policies may be
at an all time low. Not only that but Don's ability to impact much of
anything related to FIDE will be minimal in my opinion given USCF's
pathetic state.

My view is that Don sees a sinking ship with little hope of survival and
Don wanted to NOT be in charge of that ship, because he certainly would
not want to be credited with overseeing the demise of the organization.

Here's a prediction that will shock everyone:

USCF will be saved in the next 6 months by a consortium of wealthy USCF
politicos, Life Members and benefactors, from all sides of the political
spectrum. Although they generally hate each other's guts and have
feuded with one another for years, they will act like the Japanese
samurai of feudal Japan and when threatened, will band together and
fight fiercely to keep the Federation from falling. Many of these
people are tremendously wealthy and I foresee each of them kicking in
anywhere from $1,000 to $10,000 in the next year to keep the USCF from
going under, at least until it has a chance to upgrade its technology
move to its new home.

When push comes to shove, they all care about the Federation and will
put aside their enmity for the good of the org. Modesty (and the fear
of being totally wrong), prevents me from naming names, but I expect
about 100-300 or more of them to shore things up if someone organizes
such a movement and asks them politely. Another prediction is that this
emergency fund raising effort will generate over $500,000.

Best Regards,

Bruce

I don't believe that Schultz wants either of USCF's two key FIDE posts. He
has
long supported the position that these should not be held by Board members.
Kelleher remains FIDE Delegate and Tanner FIDE Zonal President.

Bill Goichberg

Bill is exactly right.

I ran for the EB based on a program I stated in my campaign CL statement.

I really don't want any officer responsibilities.

The post I took of Board liaison to the FIDE team is relatively minor.The key
positions are Delegate and Zonal President and I simply don't have the energy
or desire for them and anyway Kelleher and Tanner are superb in those jobs.

I am on the FIDE VC committee and if my Board responsibilities conflict with
that I will resign from the VC.

Beatriz may very well become regarded as the strongest USCF President ever.She
is our leader and I intend to follow her lead and help support her as much as I
can.

Don Schultz

I'm ready to forgive you, but you must take responsibility first. There has
been no act of contrition from either Bill or you. Why on earth should
anyone
trust you?

Admit your mistakes. Own up to your past. People will be forgiving.
Sheesh,
if I can be, anyone can.


James Eade
Remove the Sheesh to respond. Don't worry. Talk happy.



Jim,

If Don admits he has made mistakes in the past, you will forgive and move on?
I'm impressed.

Regards,
Wayne Praeder
****
To: USCF President Donald Schultz, Treasurer Tom Dorsch, and Finance
Committee Chair Jim Pechac
From: Leroy W. Dubeck and E. Steven Doyle
Date: October 31, 1996
USCF Financial Crisis

We are responding to the e-mail request of Jim Pechac for comments on
the USCF’s first quarter financial report.

The September 30 MDR indicated a $227,510 loss over the first 3 months
of the 1996-97 fiscal year. For the comparable period in 1995-1996 the
loss was $81,656. This means that the USCF’s finances are worst than the
prior budget year by $227,510 - $81,656 = $145,854 or a deficit of
$48,618 per month. We should note that the three month loss did not
include the costs of the US Championship, the US Women’s Championship
and the Olympiad. One of us (Doyle) estimates that the net costs for
these will total about $120,000.

We do not have the information needed to make an accurate estimate of
what the 1996-97 deficit might be. There are a number of factors to
consider. Last year we had essentially a break-even budget. However, the
revenues for the last year included a transfer of $102,004 from the Life
Member Assets fund to operations. In addition, realized gains on LMA
investments were $54,446 last year but will be 0 this year due to
structural changes in the manner of LMA investment, as noted by Mr.
Filippone in his covering letter to the September MDR. In addition
membership is down (Filippone stated $56,000 below projections for this
year). Adding these together, and including book and equipment sales at
the current 5% rather than the projected 7% which would decrease net
revenues below budgeted by about $30,000, would total $230,000. But the
book and equipment sales for the all important second quarter could be
lower. What if the they are flat in comparison with last year? This
would lead to a $100,00 + net additional shortfall in revenues for
1996-97. Finally, there is the cost of the severance package for Al
Lawrence that is being expensed this year.

These and other factors have led us to estimate somewhat different
deficits. Mr. Doyle projects about $275,000 while Dr. Dubeck projects
$400,000 - $500,000. The variance in these projections is not surprising
because we do not have the kind of data about first quarter
disbursements as suggested by Jim Pechac’s memo (attached), as well as
the uncertainty in projecting book and equipment sales.

We have several suggestions:

1. Any deficit in the range of $275,000 - $500,000 is UNACCEPTABLE. It
would represent the largest single year deficit in the history of the
USCF.

2. The Policy Board and office staff must address this growing fiscal
crisis immediately. A plan to deal with it must be adopted by the Policy
Board at its November meeting.

3. We endorse some of the suggestions of Jim Pechac for dealing with
crisis and include a copy of his e-mail memo discussing the fiscal
situation.

4. A series of expense cuts needs to be made (Mr. Doyle has posted a
number of suggestions on the Internet at rec.games.chess.politics) and a
number of revenue enhancements should be considered.

Finally, we are sending this memo by fax to each of you because we feel
that it is urgent to address this issue immediately. Please feel free to
share it with Policy Board Members, Finance Committee members, or anyone
else that you feel should see this memo. We are both available to assist
you in any way we can to solve this problem.

"Bruce Draney" wrote in message
...
Altes Wiesel wrote:

"Recmate" wrote in message
...

Not Schutt. He supported McCrary.

McCrary didn't run. The contenders were Beatriz and Camaratta.

McCrary was intending to run for some time...when he backed away isn't
totally clear. But I didn't say who Shutt voted for, did I?

I'd say, what difference does it make who voted for whom? Schultz
already said he backed Beatriz and not Camaratta which was the biggest
surprise to me. Remember that Shutt was part of a slate that had
McCrary, Camaratta and Brady as a team in 2001. If Shutt didn't back
Marinello, it is a bit of a surprise, but certainly not a total shock.
Although both are scholastic types, I don't know if Shutt thought
Beatriz would be tough enough to face the music. Maybe Shutt still owed
favors to McCrary too.


Donnie wanted the FIDE post,
and delivered Beatriz his vote to get it.



I don't believe that Schultz wants either of USCF's two key FIDE
posts.

Don wants FIDE influence. He has clearly expressed this many times,
sometimes when he doesn't seem to be aware of who may be listening.
Based
on what I have heard, he will find a way to get the influence he wants.

LOL!!! USCF influence on FIDE seems to be virtually non-existent as one
generally follows the golden rule at FIDE. He who has the gold makes
the rules. In case you've not noticed USCF is not exactly rolling in
money right now, and their influence over FIDE and its policies may be
at an all time low. Not only that but Don's ability to impact much of
anything related to FIDE will be minimal in my opinion given USCF's
pathetic state.

My view is that Don sees a sinking ship with little hope of survival and
Don wanted to NOT be in charge of that ship, because he certainly would
not want to be credited with overseeing the demise of the organization.

Here's a prediction that will shock everyone:

Bruce, you were doing good up to here. After 5-6 years of hearing the
assorted conclusions reached on RGCP it is kinda fun to have heard the
straight scoop and then compare it to the various opinions...oops,
knowledgeable people here.


USCF will be saved in the next 6 months by a consortium of wealthy USCF
politicos, Life Members and benefactors, from all sides of the political
spectrum. Although they generally hate each other's guts and have
feuded with one another for years, they will act like the Japanese
samurai of feudal Japan and when threatened, will band together and
fight fiercely to keep the Federation from falling. Many of these
people are tremendously wealthy and I foresee each of them kicking in
anywhere from $1,000 to $10,000 in the next year to keep the USCF from
going under, at least until it has a chance to upgrade its technology
move to its new home.

When push comes to shove, they all care about the Federation and will
put aside their enmity for the good of the org. Modesty (and the fear
of being totally wrong), prevents me from naming names, but I expect
about 100-300 or more of them to shore things up if someone organizes
such a movement and asks them politely. Another prediction is that this
emergency fund raising effort will generate over $500,000.

You're pulling this one out of your ass. Right?

StanB

Bruce, you were doing good up to here. After 5-6 years of hearing the
assorted conclusions reached on RGCP it is kinda fun to have heard the
straight scoop and then compare it to the various opinions...oops,
knowledgeable people here.

You're pulling this one out of your ass. Right?

StanB

OK, I couldn't resist quoting the anal reference since it is your trademark:-)

Who, oh who is giving you the "straight scoop?"

Tell us and we can determine whether that scoop is the milk of truth or a scoop
of kitty litter.

Rp

"ASCACHESS" wrote in message
...


Who, oh who is giving you the "straight scoop?"

Tell us and we can determine whether that scoop is the milk of truth or a
scoop
of kitty litter.

I was on premise and poured through the books and interviewed the other
sides. By the time it gets to the newsgroup it is about as accurate as a
newspaper account.

Of the reported 50 or so thou that weren't billed after Debi left, more like
10k. Of the 70k we had in accounts receivable, about 50 will never be
collected. Some of it goes back to 1999.

StanB