*DISCLAIMER: I read that JP was married on a "chess goddesses" website. If she
is in fact not married, this article does not apply.

And marriage to a NON-CHESSPLAYER? (they said he's a veterinarian, though he
may still play chess).

I dunno......you'd think she'd have at least an IM or FM for a houseboy
instead, someone to function as a cheerleader, second, press agent, coffeeboy,
etc.

I did find it amusing to see how big her "harem" of admirers at the lower
levels is, but that's no shock given how few women have ever matched her level
of intellectual achievement while still remaining something bordering between
"cute," "attractive," or, if you are into brains, dare I say, "hot."

FIDE was foolish not to instantly use any excuse it could to pit her against
Kasparov, that's for sure.

Judit has been happily married for almost 3 years. He is NOT a chess
player. He does know how to play chess but a pure amateur. Yes, he
is a successful vet. She will be in NY soon to visit her sister
Susan. Best Regards, Paul


(LeModernCaveman) wrote in message ...
*DISCLAIMER: I read that JP was married on a "chess goddesses" website. If she
is in fact not married, this article does not apply.

And marriage to a NON-CHESSPLAYER? (they said he's a veterinarian, though he
may still play chess).

I dunno......you'd think she'd have at least an IM or FM for a houseboy
instead, someone to function as a cheerleader, second, press agent, coffeeboy,
etc.

I did find it amusing to see how big her "harem" of admirers at the lower
levels is, but that's no shock given how few women have ever matched her level
of intellectual achievement while still remaining something bordering between
"cute," "attractive," or, if you are into brains, dare I say, "hot."

FIDE was foolish not to instantly use any excuse it could to pit her against
Kasparov, that's for sure.

Judit has been happily married for almost 3 years.

I wouldn't speculate on her state of mind either way, but it's a pleasant
thought.

He is NOT a chess
player. He does know how to play chess but a pure amateur. Yes, he
is a successful vet.

Which makes him more suitable for marriage than if he were an unsuccessful one?
I don't get it.

She will be in NY soon to visit her sister
Susan. Best Regards, Paul

Well good for her!

She will be in NY soon

On a Tuesday? *beam*

John Fernandez

(LeModernCaveman) wrote in message ...

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He is NOT a chess
player. He does know how to play chess but a pure amateur. Yes, he
is a successful vet.

Which makes him more suitable for marriage than if he were an unsuccessful one?
I don't get it.

You don't appear to know women very well. Most women would
consider a sucessful vet better husband material than an unsuccessful
vet.
As for his lack of chess knowledge I think that is a smart choice
on Polgar's part. I think most strong male chess players would have
ego problems being married to a women who is a better player. Also
Kasparov didn't marry a strong chess player, why should Polgar be
expected to?
James B. Shearer

You are correct! He is also a very nice guy.

I'm sure he is, but I could run the list down of people that's been said about.

On 30 Aug 2003 07:53:55 -0700, (Paul Truong) wrote:

Judit has been happily married for almost 3 years. He is NOT a chess
player. He does know how to play chess but a pure amateur. Yes, he
is a successful vet. She will be in NY soon to visit her sister
Susan. Best Regards, Paul


For the past four years, I have had a picture on my website of Judit
with her husband, although they were not married yet at the time of
the photo.

http://www.samsloan.com/gustav.htm

Sam Sloan

(LeModernCaveman) wrote in message ...
He is NOT a chess
player. He does know how to play chess but a pure amateur. Yes, he
is a successful vet.

Which makes him more suitable for marriage than if he were an unsuccessful
one?
I don't get it.

You don't appear to know women very well. Most women would
consider a sucessful vet better husband material than an unsuccessful
vet.

Why? Judit is no golddigger.

Ultimately for the same reason men are attracted to women with
big breasts, it's biological.
Men have more respect for successful men, why should women be
different? And why would a women want to marry a man she doesn't
respect?
Also successful women have reason to be wary of golddigger guys.
Material sucess is certainly not the only thing women look for in
a man (just as big breasts are not the only thing men look for in a
woman). However it is naive to believe it doesn't matter.
We are talking about most women here not Polgar in particular.
But I have no reason to believe she differs from the average woman in
this area. And of course being more desirable than the average woman
she can be more selective.

As for his lack of chess knowledge I think that is a smart choice
on Polgar's part. I think most strong male chess players would have
ego problems being married to a women who is a better player.

Why? If I wanted to play for the world title I could have trained myself and
done it.

I just think a master or IM level player has the right mix of a normal life but
can still appreciate the "inner beauty" of Judit's play, while serving as a
very valuable second.

I think this would be foolish. You want a second you can fire if
you need to. And you want a second who can criticize objectively
which is hard for a husband to do (or for a wife to accept).
Also I doubt a master (or perhaps even an IM) level player has
much to offer Polgar in a chess sense. Particularly if like many
chess players he overrates his own ability.
If her husband wants to help Polgar's career I think it would
make more sense for him to concentrate on dealing with all the other
stuff like travel arrangements. Leave Polgar free to concentrate on
chess.

Also
Kasparov didn't marry a strong chess player, why should Polgar be
expected to?

Kasparov didn't have much to choose from.

If you go down to master level there would be quite a bit of
choice.
James B. Shearer

You don't appear to know women very well. Most women would
consider a sucessful vet better husband material than an unsuccessful
vet.

Why? Judit is no golddigger.

Ultimately for the same reason men are attracted to women with
big breasts, it's biological.

Are you saying this was a factor in Judit's decision to marry him? I seriously
doubt that.

Men have more respect for successful men, why should women be
different?

Many women are different. Most women worry about how a guy treats them or
makes them feel.

And why would a women want to marry a man she doesn't
respect?

I can give you many scenarios where "successful" men are dishonest, and
"unsuccessful" ones were screwed over by them. Take Enron for example.

Judit is far, FAR from the typical woman. I'd be shocked if she even gave his
profession a second thought.


Also successful women have reason to be wary of golddigger guys.

"Can you feel the LOVE tonight?"

I always wondered why, if women are so good at judging men, do so many
marriages end in divorce, and why do women initiate 91 percent of divorces?


Material sucess is certainly not the only thing women look for in
a man (just as big breasts are not the only thing men look for in a
woman). However it is naive to believe it doesn't matter.

Did Judit SAY it mattered, or are others trying to do their thinking for her?

We are talking about most women here not Polgar in particular.

Exactly. Polgar could have just as easily hooked up with an IM who was just
above the poverty line and been quite happy.

That also would have made her title chances much stronger.

But I have no reason to believe she differs from the average woman in
this area. And of course being more desirable than the average woman
she can be more selective.

Until her looks go, that is. I have gallons of milk on my shelf that remain
appealing longer than some women.

As for his lack of chess knowledge I think that is a smart choice
on Polgar's part. I think most strong male chess players would have
ego problems being married to a women who is a better player.

Why? If I wanted to play for the world title I could have trained myself
and
done it.

I just think a master or IM level player has the right mix of a normal life
but
can still appreciate the "inner beauty" of Judit's play, while serving as a
very valuable second.

I think this would be foolish. You want a second you can fire if
you need to.

You also want one whom you can train with at home. Divorce is always a form of
"firing" though that would be drastic.

And you want a second who can criticize objectively
which is hard for a husband to do (or for a wife to accept).

Depends on the husband and the wife.

The right #2 chessplayer for her would be a guy who could tolerate being #2. I
know I could have, and I know there are many men like me out there. Someone
like me but about 400 points stronger would have been a dream match for her.

Of course, I spend my time producing adult entertainment, because a man who
would hitch his wagon to having one woman like him is just foolish to begin
with.

I just can't see how a marriage to a nonchessplayer will make her anything but
as soft on the inside as she is on the outside.

Also I doubt a master (or perhaps even an IM) level player has
much to offer Polgar in a chess sense.
Particularly if like many
chess players he overrates his own ability.

The Russians would disagree, as many strong seconds have ratings as low as
expert. In Judit's case, I'd say anyone 2300 or higher with a good theoretical
foundation would have been ideal.

If her husband wants to help Polgar's career I think it would
make more sense for him to concentrate on dealing with all the other
stuff like travel arrangements. Leave Polgar free to concentrate on
chess.

Without a #2 in her corner.

Also
Kasparov didn't marry a strong chess player, why should Polgar be
expected to?

Kasparov didn't have much to choose from.

If you go down to master level there would be quite a bit of
choice.

You have chess goggles.

Men have more respect for successful men, why should women be
different?

At the same time her hubby knew exactly what he was getting when he
said "I do" - she can fairly be said to be much more high profile than
most women. If he has the IQ of a sack of hammers I'm sure he took
that into account and knew full well what he's getting into.

I'm equally sure he knew that many of us consider her something
special and that he was a lucky guy to get her. I hope he never
forgets!

Oh yes, men who are scrutinized by those who want his wife but couldn't get her
are "lucky."

As a rule, fame is a negative.


Good for the two of them - I wish them many happy years...

I was only speaking to the chess implications of the marriage, which I don't
believe are very good for her title chances.

Not that being a champion is as important as being happy or well-rounded.