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Here's one for the books, fellas. Hope you can bear with me and maybe give
me some insight. Two months ago, there was a formal complaint filed against one of Iowa's sitting directors for his conduct during a rated game at a local tournament. Set up this position with black to move: White: Pawns on h2, g2, d4, c3, b2, a2; Nh3, Be1, Qf2, Kg1 Black: Pawns on g6, f7, f5, c4, b5, a6; Bh6, Bb7, Qc6, Kg8 White's last move was Bd2-e1, so black plays the crushing ...Be3!, pinning the white queen to her king while threatening mate on g2. After making his move, black walks away from the board for approximately 30 seconds, undoubtedly figuring the game is over since white must either give up his queen (leaving black with a very elementary win) or get mated. It's worth mentioning that white is a former state champion whose rating is in the upper 1900s, while black is a newcomer to the state and rated in the mid-1700s. Upon his return to the board, black notices that his clock is running and his opponent is still staring intently at the board. White has made his move, but quite a different position is now before him. White has captured black's Be3 with *his* bishop, winning a piece for nothing and removing all threats to the white king. Now black, knowing he's playing someone who outrates him by more than 200 points, goes into panic mode: he thinks he may have blundered a piece. White is just staring at the board, giving no indication that anything is amiss or that a joke is being played on him. He reviews the last few moves of the game and decides something's fishy so he informs his opponent that he's summoning the TD and stops the clock. Upon hearing this, white tips his king in resignation. Black asks if white was trying to cheat, but white just walks away without offering any explanation or shaking hands, and goes to another board where a dispute has arisen to offer his two-cents. The whole incident was witnessed by players on adjacent boards. White filed a formal, written complaint to the state association's Board of Directors, claiming that his opponent tried to cheat by moving a bishop like a rook in order to save a lost game. An investigation was conducted by the state association president, who interviewed witnesses and attempted to gather the facts of the matter from both parties. Black was very cooperative, but white, who the complaint is against and is a sitting officer in the state association, called the allegation "laughable" and refused to explain his actions to anyone. He simply states that nowhere in the USCF rulebook does it say that an illegal move is cheating, and since he resigned after his opponent pointed out the illegal move and it didn't change the outcome of the game, he is totally innocent of any complaints against him. He has, however, steadfastly refused to answer the question of whether or not the illegal move he made was intentional while also refusing to apologize to his opponent for his conduct. In fact, he went so far as to say that his opponent owed *him* an apology for even suggesting that he cheated! The state's Board of Directors are now in a bit of disagreement. Some (like me) believe that state officers should be held to a higher standard of honesty and integrity than the regular woodpusher and that an officer who has committed an act of moral turpitude should be relieved of his responsibilities as a director, while some are of the opinion that because our Bylaws (http://www.iowachess.org/bylaws.html) don't provide for the removal of an officer under such circumstances our hands are tied and all we should do is publicly admonish his actions and hope is isn't re-elected at next year's annual meeting. His fate will be decided at a special meeting at this weekend's Iowa Open, but in the meantime, he has been temporarily suspended from his duties and is not being informed of matters that require a vote. One other thing....along with being very uncooperative and refusing to answer any inquiries into the matter, white decided to blast the Board of Directors for "unjustly" suspending him -- claiming that we have overstepped our authority because the Bylaws don't specifically state what the Board can and cannot do in such situations -- and "blind copied" numerous, seemingly random players throughout the state who were unaware of and uninvolved in the situation in his email. The decision had been made to keep this a closed door matter, but after several phone calls received by Board members as to what the email was about, we decided to make it an open forum. Now, the questions: 1. I believe that this guy tried to pull a fast one. He didn't want to lose a game to a lower-rated player, so he wanted to see if he could get by with something dubious. I've heard a lawyer's saying (and maybe KidDon or Vince can verify this) that goes, "If the facts support your case, argue the facts; if the facts do not support your case, argue the law." This guy has argued the law and we are faced with a decision. Do you believe that we have recourse to kick him off the Board because of his unprofessional and unsportsmanlike conduct? (In the Navy we'd call this "Conduct Unbecoming an Officer.") Feel free to read up on what Robert has to say about Bylaws and the conduct of officers in organizations in his Rules of Order before you answer. 2. Since our Bylaws don't provide for it, what is your opinion on the suspension? Was it ethical? Was it kosher? 3. Do you believe officers in state associations have a responsibility to those who elected them to be of unwavering honesty and integrity, especially when engaged in a rated game? 4. What do you think is the best solution to this? 5. What do you feel is the "correct" solution to this, if it's different from the best one? In your opinion, what would be right? I've made up my mind (and I'm sure the other Board members have as well), but I'm curious as to how you all would vote in this particular situation. It certainly isn't the normal, everday bull**** that comes with the politics of chess as I've experienced them, so I'd love to hear any comments. Regards, Matt |
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Interesting situation. I must say, I've never heard one like this
before. I have a couple suggestions: 1) Try to solve the problem amicably and get White to apologize and admit he was playing a bad joke, in return for dropping the serious punishments. 2) If neither side wants to solve the problem amicably, then I'd have to side with Black and I don't believe this was an "illegal" move in the true sense. In my opinion it was changing the position while an opponent was away from the Board from a losing one to a winning one. This is clearly a violation of USCF's Code of Ethics in my opinion, so White doesn't have a leg to stand on if he appeals to USCF in my view. 3) What is the past behavior of these players? Do the players have a personal grudge against one another? Have they ever played before? 4) My guess is that White was joking around, but this was a foolish and kind of a mean thing to do, not to mention unethical. 5) Chess will be hurt if White quits because of an incident he was meaning originally as a joke. 6) Chess will be hurt if White is allowed to get away with this without even a warning, unless White apologizes to Black. 7) Chess might be hurt in your state regardless of what happens now, as positions generally tend to harden, if the problems aren't immediately solved. I once witnessed an Iowa TD reverse the result of a time forfeiture, because after the flag had fallen in time pressure, the coach of the losing player pointed out a line that would have drawn the game. This convinced the director who had ruled the position was too complicated to award a ILC claim (the correct ruling), decided that since the coach had seen the draw that his initial claim should have been to allow the ILC claim, so he took the win away, and awarded a draw to the player who had lost on time. This director was suspended a few years ago for a multitude of reasons, but I have never witnessed quite as big a *******ization of a USCF rule as on that day. Best Regards, Bruce |
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Matt Nemmers wrote:
"Bruce Draney" wrote in message ... Interesting situation. I must say, I've never heard one like this before. I have a couple suggestions: Thanks for the comments, Bruce. 1) Try to solve the problem amicably and get White to apologize and admit he was playing a bad joke, in return for dropping the serious punishments. White refuses to apologize, feeling he's done nothing to warrant an apology. In fact, and as I stated earlier, white thinks his opponent owes HIM an apology, as does the Board for "unjustly" suspending him and overstepping our authority. Sounds like he wants to be suspended in that case to prove some idiotic point or to make some kind of statement. 2) If neither side wants to solve the problem amicably, then I'd have to side with Black and I don't believe this was an "illegal" move in the true sense. In my opinion it was changing the position while an opponent was away from the Board from a losing one to a winning one. This is clearly a violation of USCF's Code of Ethics in my opinion, so White doesn't have a leg to stand on if he appeals to USCF in my view. I agree, but does the USCF ethics committee decide these kinds of matters which are state problems? I've never been on the Ethics Committee, but in my view that is PRECISELY what their main purpose is. When I chaired the Affiliate Affairs Committee I had several cases come through involving players who had been suspended by their State Associations. In almost every case, we forwarded it to the Ethics Committee, because, technically there are no restrictions in the USCF bylaws on what the State Associations can do to the players in their states for misbehavior. The only recourse for the player in many of these situations is to appeal to the Ethics Committee on the grounds that the State Association has committed an ethics violation by unfairly punishing them by limiting their right to participate in USCF events as a paid member in good standing. I do not know how any of these cases turned out, and the Ethics Committee generally does not make it's decisions public as far as I know. In many cases the players did something that ****ed people in the state leadership off. The state leadership then overreacts, and both sides harden their positions and become certain that they've got an ironclad case. 3) What is the past behavior of these players? Do the players have a personal grudge against one another? Have they ever played before? Black is a newcomer to the state, moving to Iowa from Texas a few months ago. I don't think either had ever played each other before. Since I don't know him well, I can't comment on black's past behavior, but he seems like a very intelligent, amiable guy. White, on the other hand, has a history of dubious behavior and has been at odds with many players throughout the state. He's been trouble before. There you go. I think you've got your answer. White's been a Knight's ass before, and now he's being a Knight's ass again. Has he ever been warned for crossing the line before? If so then it seems reasonable that he knows his behavior is unacceptable and your suspension should stand unless the guy decides that apologizing is not so bad after all. 4) My guess is that White was joking around, but this was a foolish and kind of a mean thing to do, not to mention unethical. That would've been my guess too, and what I'd like to believe, but he doesn't say it was a joke even now. And yes, it would be a joke in very poor taste, not to mention that's it's extremely poor sportsmanship. 5) Chess will be hurt if White quits because of an incident he was meaning originally as a joke. Yes. But chess will also be hurt if black quits because he's a Local TD that runs many tournaments throughout the state and may choose not to run these events if he's given the boot. But being a TD just reinforces my belief that he should be booted because he certainly ought to know better. Sounds like it's now a question of whether keeping White active is worth having to allow his misbehavior and crappy attitude. I'd say suspend him and forget him. If he's a born troublemaker, he'll cause you more grief in the long run than you'll gain from him running tournaments. In fact there's a big danger that if he gets away with misbehaving here, he'll screw someone else over even worse in the future and drive off potential members and directors, who resent his outrageous behavior. 6) Chess will be hurt if White is allowed to get away with this without even a warning, unless White apologizes to Black. Definitely. 7) Chess might be hurt in your state regardless of what happens now, as positions generally tend to harden, if the problems aren't immediately solved. Yes. I really don't see a good end to this. Chess is going to be hurt either way. "The needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few," so I wonder if getting rid of him might hurt chess more because of fewer tournaments being run in an area lacking TDs. But then, nobody wants a dishonest person running tournaments. It should be noted, however, that the tournaments white has directed have been pretty smooth with no problems arising that I know of. Go with your original intent if White remains intransigent. I once witnessed an Iowa TD reverse the result of a time forfeiture, because after the flag had fallen in time pressure, the coach of the losing player pointed out a line that would have drawn the game. This convinced the director who had ruled the position was too complicated to award a ILC claim (the correct ruling), decided that since the coach had seen the draw that his initial claim should have been to allow the ILC claim, so he took the win away, and awarded a draw to the player who had lost on time. Bad news. Don't know who that was. Write me offline and I'll tell you. No names here on RGCP. This director was suspended a few years ago for a multitude of reasons, but I have never witnessed quite as big a *******ization of a USCF rule as on that day. Best Regards, Bruce Take care, Bruce. Right back at you. Regards, Matt Best Regards, Bruce |
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First of all, I've often made such moves as a funny way to resign.
However, in this case, it was, by this players behavior, a cheating attempt. His unsportsmanlike behavior is not called for at all. He had the chance to make it all go away, he made it worse. Perhaps this is a jurisdiction question- but I wouldn't have any problems with him being suspended. We have no place for that in chess. John Fernandez |
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"Matt Nemmers" wrote in message news:9_b5b.335773$YN5.231054@sccrnsc01...
(snip) I've heard a lawyer's saying (and maybe KidDon or Vince can verify this) that goes, "If the facts support your case, argue the facts; if the facts do not support your case, argue the law." (snip) __________________________________________ That is a decent general saying, but not always true. In the case of your association, I doubt if you could apply them retroactively, but you should strongly consider amending your Bylaws to expressly cover such situations in the future. KidDon |
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Matt,
Censure the offending party. Warn him that further problems will be cause for further sanctions. Tim Hanke "Matt Nemmers" wrote in message news:9_b5b.335773$YN5.231054@sccrnsc01... Here's one for the books, fellas. Hope you can bear with me and maybe give me some insight. Two months ago, there was a formal complaint filed against one of Iowa's sitting directors for his conduct during a rated game at a local tournament. Set up this position with black to move: White: Pawns on h2, g2, d4, c3, b2, a2; Nh3, Be1, Qf2, Kg1 Black: Pawns on g6, f7, f5, c4, b5, a6; Bh6, Bb7, Qc6, Kg8 White's last move was Bd2-e1, so black plays the crushing ...Be3!, pinning the white queen to her king while threatening mate on g2. After making his move, black walks away from the board for approximately 30 seconds, undoubtedly figuring the game is over since white must either give up his queen (leaving black with a very elementary win) or get mated. It's worth mentioning that white is a former state champion whose rating is in the upper 1900s, while black is a newcomer to the state and rated in the mid-1700s. Upon his return to the board, black notices that his clock is running and his opponent is still staring intently at the board. White has made his move, but quite a different position is now before him. White has captured black's Be3 with *his* bishop, winning a piece for nothing and removing all threats to the white king. Now black, knowing he's playing someone who outrates him by more than 200 points, goes into panic mode: he thinks he may have blundered a piece. White is just staring at the board, giving no indication that anything is amiss or that a joke is being played on him. He reviews the last few moves of the game and decides something's fishy so he informs his opponent that he's summoning the TD and stops the clock. Upon hearing this, white tips his king in resignation. Black asks if white was trying to cheat, but white just walks away without offering any explanation or shaking hands, and goes to another board where a dispute has arisen to offer his two-cents. The whole incident was witnessed by players on adjacent boards. White filed a formal, written complaint to the state association's Board of Directors, claiming that his opponent tried to cheat by moving a bishop like a rook in order to save a lost game. An investigation was conducted by the state association president, who interviewed witnesses and attempted to gather the facts of the matter from both parties. Black was very cooperative, but white, who the complaint is against and is a sitting officer in the state association, called the allegation "laughable" and refused to explain his actions to anyone. He simply states that nowhere in the USCF rulebook does it say that an illegal move is cheating, and since he resigned after his opponent pointed out the illegal move and it didn't change the outcome of the game, he is totally innocent of any complaints against him. He has, however, steadfastly refused to answer the question of whether or not the illegal move he made was intentional while also refusing to apologize to his opponent for his conduct. In fact, he went so far as to say that his opponent owed *him* an apology for even suggesting that he cheated! The state's Board of Directors are now in a bit of disagreement. Some (like me) believe that state officers should be held to a higher standard of honesty and integrity than the regular woodpusher and that an officer who has committed an act of moral turpitude should be relieved of his responsibilities as a director, while some are of the opinion that because our Bylaws (http://www.iowachess.org/bylaws.html) don't provide for the removal of an officer under such circumstances our hands are tied and all we should do is publicly admonish his actions and hope is isn't re-elected at next year's annual meeting. His fate will be decided at a special meeting at this weekend's Iowa Open, but in the meantime, he has been temporarily suspended from his duties and is not being informed of matters that require a vote. One other thing....along with being very uncooperative and refusing to answer any inquiries into the matter, white decided to blast the Board of Directors for "unjustly" suspending him -- claiming that we have overstepped our authority because the Bylaws don't specifically state what the Board can and cannot do in such situations -- and "blind copied" numerous, seemingly random players throughout the state who were unaware of and uninvolved in the situation in his email. The decision had been made to keep this a closed door matter, but after several phone calls received by Board members as to what the email was about, we decided to make it an open forum. Now, the questions: 1. I believe that this guy tried to pull a fast one. He didn't want to lose a game to a lower-rated player, so he wanted to see if he could get by with something dubious. I've heard a lawyer's saying (and maybe KidDon or Vince can verify this) that goes, "If the facts support your case, argue the facts; if the facts do not support your case, argue the law." This guy has argued the law and we are faced with a decision. Do you believe that we have recourse to kick him off the Board because of his unprofessional and unsportsmanlike conduct? (In the Navy we'd call this "Conduct Unbecoming an Officer.") Feel free to read up on what Robert has to say about Bylaws and the conduct of officers in organizations in his Rules of Order before you answer. 2. Since our Bylaws don't provide for it, what is your opinion on the suspension? Was it ethical? Was it kosher? 3. Do you believe officers in state associations have a responsibility to those who elected them to be of unwavering honesty and integrity, especially when engaged in a rated game? 4. What do you think is the best solution to this? 5. What do you feel is the "correct" solution to this, if it's different from the best one? In your opinion, what would be right? I've made up my mind (and I'm sure the other Board members have as well), but I'm curious as to how you all would vote in this particular situation. It certainly isn't the normal, everday bull**** that comes with the politics of chess as I've experienced them, so I'd love to hear any comments. Regards, Matt |
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Matt Nemmers wrote:
I agree, but does the USCF ethics committee decide these kinds of matters which are state problems? Matt: The Code of Ethics provides in section 3: The standards, procedures, and sanctions set forth in this code of ethics shall apply only to: (A) actions and behavior by members of the USCF that occur in connection with tournaments or other activities sponsored by or sanctioned by the USCF; and (B) individuals and entities acting in an official capacity as officers or representatives of the USCF. Wick Deer |
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"Matt Nemmers" wrote in message news:9_b5b.335773$YN5.231054@sccrnsc01...
Here's one for the books, fellas. Hope you can bear with me and maybe give me some insight. Matt, My suggestion would be to copy the entire contents of this thread (those entries that are relevant) into your state newsletter. Air the laundry and let the state's players decide for themselves. I believe they will see this turkey for what he is, and react accordingly. Regards, Mike Petersen |
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"Matt Nemmers" wrote in message news:9_b5b.335773$YN5.231054@sccrnsc01...
Now, the questions: 1. I believe that this guy tried to pull a fast one. He didn't want to lose a game to a lower-rated player, so he wanted to see if he could get by with something dubious. I've heard a lawyer's saying (and maybe KidDon or Vince can verify this) that goes, "If the facts support your case, argue the facts; if the facts do not support your case, argue the law." This guy has argued the law and we are faced with a decision. Do you believe that we have recourse to kick him off the Board because of his unprofessional and unsportsmanlike conduct? (In the Navy we'd call this "Conduct Unbecoming an Officer.") Feel free to read up on what Robert has to say about Bylaws and the conduct of officers in organizations in his Rules of Order before you answer. I agree that he was trying to pull a fast one and that his conduct was reprehensible. I would also note that Article XI, sec. 2 of your bylaws gives the Board of Directors the right to temporarily amend the bylaws. Perhaps you could amend them to give yourself the right to suspend miscreants. 2. Since our Bylaws don't provide for it, what is your opinion on the suspension? Was it ethical? Was it kosher? Personally, I would be reluctant to vote to suspend until I was comfortable that I had the authority to suspend. It may be that public censure is the best you can do. On the other hand, the Bylaws are not necessarily the sole source of the authority. There might be something in the Articles of Incorporation or in the Iowa Corporation Act. There might also be authority based on an implied obligation to abide by and enforce USCF rules concerning state affiliates. Maybe there is an argument that Robert's rules are an implicit part of the Bylaws. 3. Do you believe officers in state associations have a responsibility to those who elected them to be of unwavering honesty and integrity, especially when engaged in a rated game? I do, but I am not sure that implies the right to suspend someone who fails to live up to that responsibility. 4. What do you think is the best solution to this? Absent the authority to suspend the guy, I would tend to go with public censure. I am just not sure whether the risks created when the directors stretch the limits of their authority is greater than the risks associated with letting this guy continue to be a pain in the ass. Vince Hart |
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Bruce made several good suggestions on how to deal with the situation. Just as
John mentioned, once or twice, I've also made an illegal move, but in sight of the opponent as a funny way of resigning. It is perhaps possible that the player was intending this and did not really intend to try to avoid losing by cheating. When accused, perhaps he got backed into a corner and now is stuck with an untenable position (again:-)) Now putting on my Parlimentarian in Training hat, without specific Bylaws authority providing for suspension of a director, it does not seem like a good idea. It is proper that he should have no input other than as any party to the dispute when the problem is discussed by your board and this is supported by Robert's Rules. In any event, please be sure to give him an opportunity to formally see the charges and to respond to the charges in both the game situation and concerning the suspension. This can either be in writing or at a meeting. The only way to see if the Ethics Committee will deal with the dispute is for someone to submit a complaint. I tend to doubt that they would deal with the suspension as board member but only the committee can decide. In any case, perhaps before making it an Ethics case, try mediation. Perhaps one or more of the State Affairs or Bylaws committees would be willing to serve if asked. Regards, Ernie In article 9_b5b.335773$YN5.231054@sccrnsc01, "Matt Nemmers" wrote: Now, the questions: 1. I believe that this guy tried to pull a fast one. He didn't want to lose a game to a lower-rated player, so he wanted to see if he could get by with something dubious. I've heard a lawyer's saying (and maybe KidDon or Vince can verify this) that goes, "If the facts support your case, argue the facts; if the facts do not support your case, argue the law." This guy has argued the law and we are faced with a decision. Do you believe that we have recourse to kick him off the Board because of his unprofessional and unsportsmanlike conduct? (In the Navy we'd call this "Conduct Unbecoming an Officer.") Feel free to read up on what Robert has to say about Bylaws and the conduct of officers in organizations in his Rules of Order before you answer. 2. Since our Bylaws don't provide for it, what is your opinion on the suspension? Was it ethical? Was it kosher? 3. Do you believe officers in state associations have a responsibility to those who elected them to be of unwavering honesty and integrity, especially when engaged in a rated game? 4. What do you think is the best solution to this? 5. What do you feel is the "correct" solution to this, if it's different from the best one? In your opinion, what would be right? I've made up my mind (and I'm sure the other Board members have as well), but I'm curious as to how you all would vote in this particular situation. It certainly isn't the normal, everday bull**** that comes with the politics of chess as I've experienced them, so I'd love to hear any comments. Regards, Matt Regards, Ernie Ernest W. Schlich |
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