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Old September 20th 03, 04:20 AM
Ivan
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Default Free USCF membership for TDs

I think the USCF should give free adult memberships (w/ chess life) to
all tournament directors that run 10 or more tournaments each year.

I believe that TDs in general are the backbone on US chess since they
organize and run tournaments. Also the tournament rating fees provide
a large chunk of the USCF revenue. Therefore, we should reward our
TDs for their hardwork by giving them free membership (provided they
run at least 10 tournaments). I guess you could have someone run 10
events and then they get free membership.
Each event that gets rated has a minimum rating fee of $5 so that is
at least 50 dollars coming in as revenue.

This is a good idea so please consider it.

Thank you,
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Old September 20th 03, 05:19 AM
Dan Heisman
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Ivan,

Sounds good to me! Now if only they can extend my life membership!!

- Dan H
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Old September 20th 03, 05:53 AM
Tom Klem
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Ivan,

This is an extremely good suggestion, but misses the point just a little.

In marketing, there is the principle of pricing a product at its perceptable
value, not it's margin plus cost. This principle dictates, for example, that
the same plain wool Berets made in China which only cost the manufacturer 2
bucks, should be marketed at a fair value in the destination market. So,
while Peruvians might pay 4 bucks to the Chinese, the US Army pays 8.

An additional point is, by not taking the money up front, cash flow suffers.

Tweak your idea a bit and maybe it sounds like this. For every organizer who
holds ten tournaments a year, the equivalency of one membership will be
discounted from the TLA's and Ratings fees, and you might have a winner,
providing the financial analysts agree with the numbers (very important to
do a walk though financially)

Tom Klem

"Ivan" wrote in message
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I think the USCF should give free adult memberships (w/ chess life) to
all tournament directors that run 10 or more tournaments each year.

I believe that TDs in general are the backbone on US chess since they
organize and run tournaments. Also the tournament rating fees provide
a large chunk of the USCF revenue. Therefore, we should reward our
TDs for their hardwork by giving them free membership (provided they
run at least 10 tournaments). I guess you could have someone run 10
events and then they get free membership.
Each event that gets rated has a minimum rating fee of $5 so that is
at least 50 dollars coming in as revenue.

This is a good idea so please consider it.

Thank you,



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Old September 20th 03, 05:06 PM
Kevin L. Bachler
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Default Free USCF membership for TDs

In article , Ivan says...

I think the USCF should give free adult memberships (w/ chess life) to
all tournament directors that run 10 or more tournaments each year.

I believe that TDs in general are the backbone on US chess since they
organize and run tournaments. Also the tournament rating fees provide
a large chunk of the USCF revenue. Therefore, we should reward our
TDs for their hardwork by giving them free membership (provided they
run at least 10 tournaments). I guess you could have someone run 10
events and then they get free membership.
Each event that gets rated has a minimum rating fee of $5 so that is
at least 50 dollars coming in as revenue.

This is a good idea so please consider it.

Thank you,



I think this is a bad idea. It contributes to a situation that is already
confused enough.

TD's ARE NOT agents or employees of USCF. They are independent businesspeople
(whether they choose to act that way or not.) If a TD wants to pay for their
annual membership, all they need to do is to collect enough commissions on
selling USCF memberships or charge enough for their tournaments.

Getting $50 of revenue ignores that we already rate tournaments at a loss.

I agree with the concept of trying to encourage people to run tournaments or to
play in events. I think there are more effective ways to do that.

Kevin L. Bachler

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Old September 20th 03, 05:16 PM
Douglas L Stewart
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Default Free USCF membership for TDs

Unless someone really thinks that this will increase the number of
tournaments that tournament directors run (and thus drive membership sales
and rating fee collection), then something like this isn't a great idea at a
time when the USCF is hemorrhaging money. This would also benefit only a
portion of TD's, since a decent number already have life memberships.

I am a TD by the way, so I would probably start benefiting from this since I
will probably run that many tournaments next year.

---
Douglas Stewart


"Ivan" wrote in message
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I think the USCF should give free adult memberships (w/ chess life) to
all tournament directors that run 10 or more tournaments each year.

I believe that TDs in general are the backbone on US chess since they
organize and run tournaments. Also the tournament rating fees provide
a large chunk of the USCF revenue. Therefore, we should reward our
TDs for their hardwork by giving them free membership (provided they
run at least 10 tournaments). I guess you could have someone run 10
events and then they get free membership.
Each event that gets rated has a minimum rating fee of $5 so that is
at least 50 dollars coming in as revenue.

This is a good idea so please consider it.

Thank you,



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Old September 20th 03, 08:59 PM
Eric Mark
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Default Free USCF membership for TDs

"Tom Klem" wrote in message news:n3Rab.522$Ms2.386@fed1read03...
Ivan,

This is an extremely good suggestion, but misses the point just a little.

In marketing, there is the principle of pricing a product at its perceptable
value, not it's margin plus cost. This principle dictates, for example, that
the same plain wool Berets made in China which only cost the manufacturer 2
bucks, should be marketed at a fair value in the destination market. So,
while Peruvians might pay 4 bucks to the Chinese, the US Army pays 8.

An additional point is, by not taking the money up front, cash flow suffers.

Tweak your idea a bit and maybe it sounds like this. For every organizer who
holds ten tournaments a year, the equivalency of one membership will be
discounted from the TLA's and Ratings fees, and you might have a winner,
providing the financial analysts agree with the numbers (very important to
do a walk though financially)

Tom Klem

"Ivan" wrote in message
om...
I think the USCF should give free adult memberships (w/ chess life) to
all tournament directors that run 10 or more tournaments each year.

I believe that TDs in general are the backbone on US chess since they
organize and run tournaments. Also the tournament rating fees provide
a large chunk of the USCF revenue. Therefore, we should reward our
TDs for their hardwork by giving them free membership (provided they
run at least 10 tournaments). I guess you could have someone run 10
events and then they get free membership.
Each event that gets rated has a minimum rating fee of $5 so that is
at least 50 dollars coming in as revenue.

This is a good idea so please consider it.

Thank you,



Why don't we charge TDs a fee for the privilege of running USCF-rated
events? Think of the extra money we could make and all the poseurs and
amateurs we could run out of chess. "Wanna direct? Gotta genuflect"
could be our motto.

Don't be swayed by the conventional wisdom that says sane people (OK,
that excludes a lot of TDs and chessplayers) generally only pay for
things they need or which bring them pleasure or satisfaction.

Think outside the box. The fee really won't amount to that much if you
break it down per hour of 'volunteer' labor. Remember who the ultimate
customer is.

Wanna hear about how we do things in my company?

Regards,

Eric M
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Old September 20th 03, 09:09 PM
Kevin L. Bachler
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Default Free USCF membership for TDs

In article , Eric Mark says...
SNIP


Why don't we charge TDs a fee for the privilege of running USCF-rated
events?


We do.

Kevin L. Bachler

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Old September 20th 03, 09:15 PM
Kevin L. Bachler
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Default Free USCF membership for TDs

In article , Kevin L. Bachler says...

In article , Eric Mark says...
SNIP


Why don't we charge TDs a fee for the privilege of running USCF-rated
events?


We do.

Kevin L. Bachler

More precisely, we charge organizers. I am in favor of charging a fee for TD's
to get certified or to renew their certification, however.

Kevin L. Bachler

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Old September 20th 03, 11:24 PM
John Fernandez
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Default Free USCF membership for TDs

More precisely, we charge organizers. I am in favor of charging a fee for
TD's
to get certified or to renew their certification, however.

Kevin L. Bachler


How often is the TD NOT the Organizer?

John Fernandez
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Old September 21st 03, 05:06 AM
Wickdeer3
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Default Free USCF membership for TDs

John Fernandez wrote:

How often is the TD NOT the Organizer?

John Fernandez


It happens. I organize about 1/2 of the events I direct.

Wick Deer
 




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