Sherzer Verdict In

#31 October 2nd 03, 03:16 AM

OTHERE (Fifiela) wrote in message ...
GM Sherzer is not innocent; he is Not Guilty. There is a big difference.

Sherzer behaved as a jerk and is a lucky man who I hope has learned a big
lesson. Lucky for him, that a wise jury apparently bought the entrapment
defense.

It's a victory for justice and not for Sherzer.

Best,
Allan

Actually, Sherzer was "found" not guilty by a jury. They can and do
make mistakes, but they are also can pass judgement on actions of the
government. I view this as a more rejection of the government case
(and tactics) than as victory for Sherzer. Very similiar to the OJ
case in that respect.

Good for him, otherwise he could have been playing chess in the big
house the next ten years. He's very lucky. The losers are the girl's
family and the FBI. There is no winner here.

#32 October 3rd 03, 01:52 AM

(Nick) wrote in message
om...
ospam (Jerome Bibuld) wrote in message
...(to Randy Bauer):
I'm sure Scam Spam is not a "maroon". They were former slaves (and their
descendents) who escaped and, usually, joined the Indigenous American
nations in battling the slavocracy, although, sometimes, "maroon"
communities were not associated with Indigenous American nations.

Maroons also constituted a significant part of the fierce, protracted
Seminole armed resistance to the United States's invasions of the Seminoles'
traditional homeland in Florida. In 1837, the United States flagrantly
violated its own flag of truce in order to capture Osceola, the supreme
Seminole leader, who soon died in a United States Army prison.

According to the official historical records, the United States fought
three wars against the Seminoles: (1817-18), (1835-42), and (1855-58).

"In the 1830s, the Seminoles were brought to heel in part by recruiting
friendly Seminoles and Creeks, and by enticing Black slaves who had joined the
rebellious Amerindians into the service of the US army against the promise of
freedom. Not only did this deprive Osceola of much of his military capability,
as Blacks were among his best military leaders, but acting as scouts from 1836,
ex-slaves also led General Thomas Sidney Jesup to the Seminole villages, whose
destruction, together with the treacherous capture of Osceola and other
Seminole chiefs under a flag of truce, helped to cripple the resistance."
--Douglas Porch (Wars of Empire, p. 82)

In October 1937, the United States invited Osceola and other Seminole chiefs
to negotiate under a flag of truce, which then the Americans, acting on the
specific order of General Jesup, exploited as the opportunity to capture them.

The United States government and military routinely refused to honour their
treaties and agreements with indigenous Nations whenever the political or
economic interests of white American settlers were considered more important.

From what I have heard, some Seminoles today still claim that the United
States never was able to defeat the Seminole Nation only by 'fair means'
ultimately in their long wars.

Beginning in the 1830s, the United States pursued a policy of what would be
described today as "ethnic cleansing" against the Seminoles. Although the
United States government once had allocated a Florida reservation for the
Seminoles, white American settlers still coveted that land. Accordingly,
under the Indian Removal Act, the United States directed the Seminoles to
leave Florida forever. The United States's ultimate objective was that there
should be not even one living Seminole remaining in Florida. Evidently, the
United States was not quite 100% successful in accomplishing that objective
because a few Seminoles were able to conceal themselves in the Everglades.
Accordingly, simply by having been able to survive where they were, some
Seminoles today might even claim to have won a war against the United States.

'One does not love a place the less for having suffered in it, unless it has
been all suffering.'
--Jane Austen (Persuasion)

--Nick

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