THE $@#$! THAT MR. FERNANDEZ WILL DO

By Larry Parr

John Fernandez is back to his old tricks.

In one posting he says he is really opposed to drug testing, but we
must have it because in some countries, it is the law. He has apparently taken
over the Olympic Participation Committee, formerly chaired by Tim Redman,
another drug-testing advocate. Contrary to his claim, Mr. Fernandez is
chairman of that USCF committee precisely because he FAVORS drug testing.

We were originally told that drug testing would make chess an Olympic
sport. If we swallowed our self-respect by accepting a solution for which
there is no problem and if we permitted the snoops into chess, then we would
reap a bonanza of benefits. Jim Eade also adopted the same FIDE party line,
while protesting that he personally opposed random dope tests.

Chess did not become an Olympic sport. Nor will it become one. The
pot-of-gold argument is dead. So there came a need for a new one.

Mr. Fernandez now claims that we ought to have drug testing even if it
provides no tangible benefit to American chess or even if, in some way, it were
to injure chess in this country. That's because, as he avers, "most" chess
federations around the world received "significant" portions of their budgets
from their respective National Olympic Committees. The quid pro quo was that
these federations would conduct random drug tests on chess players.

I challenged Mr. Fernandez to show that "most" federations (which he
defined as "a majority of") received "significant" portions of their budgets
from NOCs. The upshot was that he was lying. Straight out. There was no
"majority" of federations receiving such funding. He had no list.

Months later, Mr. Fernandez submitted a list showing a minority of
federations around the world receiving about $1.6 million annually from their
NOCs or governments -- this figure being for THE ENTIRE WORLD. A pittance. No
pot of gold at the end of the rainbow.

In Mr. Fernandez's recent posting, the reader will notice that he does
not deny the bottom line: He would, if required by the snoops, destroy the
careers of grandmasters to accommodate drug testing. His argument is that such
has yet to occur. He avers that GM Larry Evans and this writer screamed that
the sky was falling, and he argues that such has not been the case.

What is wrong with Mr. Fernandez's argument?

The problem: Mr. Fernandez opposed those of us who raised a storm over
drug testing, favoring its quiet acceptance. He supported those penalties that
would end careers of his betters. He now argues that because FIDE had to back
down a bit (thanks to our protests) we were wrong to oppose drug testing.

Once again: the bottom line for Mr. Fernandez is that there is a place
for his kind in chess, but there is no place for grandmasters or anyone else
who will not kowtow to random drug testing -- the snooping and the
irrationality -- when a drug bureaucrat so demands. If a Yusupov says no in a
given circumstance, then he is finished. That is what Mr. Fernandez supports.
He said so.

Period.

Larry "My USCF Membership expired 14 months ago but I still like to tout that
I'm involved in USCF" Parr wrote:

Contrary to his claim, Mr. Fernandez is
chairman of that USCF committee precisely because he FAVORS drug testing.

So you're saying that the USCF favors drug testing? Big news Also completely
untrue.

We were originally told that drug testing would make chess an Olympic
sport.

Not by me. This is of course completely untrue. I will agree that there are
some idiots in FIDE like Kirsan who did think this way. I think that their
behavior, especially by that moron "Dr." Press really hurt the situation and
gave you ammunition. That reality hasn't been true for years now, though.

Chess did not become an Olympic sport.

It is an Olympic sport.

Nor will it become one.

Tell that to the people fighting for IOC medals in chess this very moment.

Mr. Fernandez now claims that we ought to have drug testing even if
it provides no tangible benefit to American chess or even if, in some way, it
were to injure chess in this country.

We don't have drug testing.

I challenged Mr. Fernandez to show that "most" federations (which he
defined as "a majority of") received "significant" portions of their budgets
from NOCs. The upshot was that he was lying. Straight out. There was no
"majority" of federations receiving such funding. He had no list.

I've been circulating the list for, about a year now? You just don't like it.
That's not my problem.

Months later, Mr. Fernandez submitted a list showing a minority of
federations around the world receiving about $1.6 million annually from their
NOCs or governments -- this figure being for THE ENTIRE WORLD. A pittance.
No pot of gold at the end of the rainbow.

I should note that further research has shown that this number is at minimum
$2,189,055, which translates into 5,853 ounces of gold. That's one BIG pot.

Of course, I will note that over the past 4 years, this number is likely more
than $10 Million dollars, mostly due to the fact that the Turkish Olympic
Committee gave $4.5 Million to the Turkish Chess Federation for the 2000
Olympiad.

Once again: the bottom line for Mr. Fernandez is that there is a place
for his kind in chess, but there is no place for grandmasters or anyone else
who will not kowtow to random drug testing

I've done much more for grandmasters than you ever have.

Oh yeah, why haven't you been a USCF member since August of 2002? Hopefully
you'll get thrown off your post(s) for this, as if being an asshat wasn't
enough.

John Fernandez

FERNANDEZ AND THE BEIJING OLYMPICS FIASCO

By Larry Parr


Readers know that chess will not be part of the 2008 Beijing Olympics.
The story of how this news reached the USCF FIDE Advisory Committee speaks
volumes.

This writer first heard and retailed the rumor that chess would not be
in the Beijing event, and Yasser Seirawan shortly thereafter provided details.

Enter John Fernandez.

Mr. Fernandez will literally write ANYTHING at any given moment because
he thinks it serves the need of the moment.

Such, too, was the case with his very unlucky response to Yasser
Seirawan's report that chess would not appear in the Beijing Olympics.

Unlucky?

Mr. Fernandez issued a denial of the GM Seirawan's report and told a
certain outrageous lie (see below) that would be refuted within 24 hours. He
had every right to expect that a few weeks or months would supervene between
his lie and its refutation. He had every expectation that his lie would be
ancient news rather than a stunning, evident embarrassment.

So what was the lie?

Mr. Fernandez tole members of the FIDE Advisory Committee that not only
was GM Seirawan wrong that the Olympic authorities would not accept chess, he
had been "working the phones" and was in contact with three dozen insider
Olympic sources who were telling him differently.

Mr. Fernandez's insider sources DID NOT EXIST. The kid just made them
up. Out of whole cloth.

Then came the crunch: within 24 hours of Mr. Fernandez writing a
pathetic lie designed to make himself appear as an important maven of Olympic
politics, the IOC announced that chess would not appear in the Beijing
Olympics!

Oi, vey.

In a recent posting here, Mr. Fernandez said, incredibly, that if we
wished to know his three dozen or more insider sources, we should examine a
similar number that dissented in the IOC vote.

In other words, it just happened that Mr. Fernandez had the wrong 36 or
so sources, who just happened to have the story inside out! Something like
that.

On the FIDE Advisory Committee, this writer and GM Evans repeatedly
queried a couple of Mr. Fernandez's SUPPORTERS whether they believed he was
"working the phones" with at least three dozen insider sources or whether he
was retailing culpable lies to appear important.

These SUPPORTERS of the Fernandez position would not answer.

Shortly thereafter, Mr. Fernandez resigned from the committee.

On the FIDE Advisory Committee, this writer and GM Evans repeatedly
queried a couple of Mr. Fernandez's SUPPORTERS whether they believed he was
"working the phones" with at least three dozen insider sources or whether he
was retailing culpable lies to appear important.

These SUPPORTERS of the Fernandez position would not answer.

Yeah, they didn't hear you in the first place. I think everyone else was
intelligent enough to have you killfiled for the most part.

Oh yeah, ignoring the "why I'm not a USCF member" part too.

John Fernandez

(Parrthenon) wrote in message ...
On the FIDE Advisory Committee, this writer and GM Evans repeatedly
queried a couple of Mr. Fernandez's SUPPORTERS whether they believed he was
"working the phones" with at least three dozen insider sources or whether he
was retailing culpable lies to appear important.

These SUPPORTERS of the Fernandez position would not answer.

Perhaps they simply dislike talking to you?

CHESS POLITICS 101

By Larry Parr

Google Search, someone! Google Search, someone!

John "take my urine, please" Fernandez has just denied below that he
predicted repeatedly over several months that chess would become an Olympic
sport! (Along with bridge!)

The kid will write ANYTHING.

Now then for a lesson in USCF politics.

I wrote, "Contrary to his claim, Mr. Fernandez is chairman of that USCF
committee precisely because he FAVORS drug testing."

Mr. Fernandez responds dishonestly, "So you're saying that the
USCF favors drug testing? Big news Also completely untrue."

Here are the politics: The Federation is officially on record via
Delegate resolutions to oppose drug testing in any tournament or match. This
suits the membership, but it is a resolution detested by the politicians.

Our FIDE team introduced a resolution to a FIDE Congress calling on
limiting drug testing as much as possible in those events requiring testing,
which is not what opposing drug testing in any tournament or match means. Our
team's resolution accepted drug testing; it did not oppose it as required by
the USCF Delegates. They refusedt even to send out a letter to FIDE nations
citing the anti-doping resolutions passed by USCF delegates.

The USCF even paid some expense money of Dr. Press, a New Jersey
chiropractor, to warn the delegates that if they did not approve dope testing
another organization might be recognized by FIDE in the United States.

Enter the Olympic Participation Committee. The former chairman was Tim
Redman, who was strongly in favor of adopting drug testing. He wrote a paper
on the subject which can be found, at least last time I looked, at the USCF
website along with papers by this writer and GM Larry Evans. These position
papers might still be on Goichberg's website.

Dr. Redman brought Mr. Fernandez onto the Olympic Participation
Committee, which is the home of those favoring drug testing among the political
class. This writer and others tried to argue against this committee being
renewed precisely because it was the hangout of the Federation drug-snoop
crowd.

That's the politics of the matter. Now then, let's examine what Mr.
Fernandez writes below. My comments appear in multiple brackets.

[[[[[Larry Parr]]]]]

We were originally told that drug testing would make chess an Olympic sport.

[[[[[Mr. Fernandez, proving that e-ether will hold anything, now denies what
he wrote repeatedly over many months]]]]]

Not by me. This is of course completely untrue. I will agree that there are
some idiots in FIDE like Kirsan who did think this way. I think that their
behavior, especially by that moron "Dr." Press really hurt the situation and
gave you ammunition. That reality hasn't been true for years now, though.

[[[[[Listen to Mr. Fernandez! Kirsan Ilyumzhinov has suddenly been demoted
from the virtual dictator of FIDE who called the shots to just one among "some
idiots." FIDE's approach to the Olympics was and is Kirsan's diktat.]]]]]

[[[[[Larry Parr]]]]]

Chess did not become an Olympic sport.

[[[[[Mr. Fernandez, actually lying wildly; just read it because I did NOT
write it]]]]]

It is an Olympic sport.

[[[[[The IOC said no to chess and bridge and a whole host of other games for
the Olympics. Nor does chess have any chance in 2012 or anytime, quite likely,
in our lifetime. The new president wants to SHRINK the number of games in the
Olympics. He said so. We all know that.]]]]]

[[[[[Larry Parr]]]]]

Nor will it become one.

[[[[[John Fernandez]]]]]

Tell that to the people fighting for IOC medals in chess at this very moment.

[[[[[The Winter Olympics are not on. The Summer Olympics are not on. Mr.
Fernandez is trying to change the subject from chess in the Olympics, meaning a
hope that the game will be promoted thereby (the original selling point, we
must remember) to chess in some regional games where the promotional value is
zilch. Pitiful.]]]]]

[[[[[Larry Parr]]]]]

Mr. Fernandez now claims that we ought to have drug testing even if
it provides no tangible benefit to American chess or even if, in some way, it
were to injure chess in this country.

[[[[[Mr. Fernandez]]]]]

We don't have drug testing.

[[[[[Larry Parr: I could call the above statement an outright lie, given that
drug testing is being carried out right now in FIDE events. But by "We," Mr.
Fernandez likely means the United States.

Thereby hangs another tale. In a discussion about possible drug
testing of young kids where it all began by FIDE in Argentina (humiliating
urination, possible blood tests, etc.) with George John, Mr. Fernandez at first
denied there would ever be such testing, then later on in the same long
message, he claimed that domestic opposition stateside could defeat such
testing. Yet he opposed the very opposition that he told Mr. John could be
relied upon to beat drug testing in American tournaments! It was all in a
single message. The kid's a lulu.]]]]]

[[[[[Larry Parr]]]]]

I challenged Mr. Fernandez to show that "most" federations (which he
defined as "a majority of") received "significant" portions of their budgets
from NOCs. The upshot was that he was lying. Straight out. There was no
"majority" of federations receiving such funding. He had no such long list.

[[[[[Mr. Fernandez, not denying the lie he told]]]]]

I've been circulating the list for, about a year now? You just don't like it.
That's not my problem.

[[[[[Larry Parr: Mr. Fernandez told the FIDE Advisory Committee as a matter
of FACT that "most" federations (which he defined as "a majority of") received
"significant" portions of their budgets from their respective National Olympic
Committees. When he made that statement, he was lying. Just lying.

Indeed, over a year later, the kid still has nothing like a majority on
his list of Federations receiving "significant" portions of their budgets from
their NOCs.]]]]]

[[[[[Larry Parr]]]]]

Months later, Mr. Fernandez submitted a list showing a minority of
federations around the world receiving about $1.6 million annually from their
NOCs or governments -- this figure being for THE ENTIRE WORLD. A pittance. No
pot of gold at the end of the rainbow.

[[[[[Mr. Fernandez, still not denying his lie and trying to make the best of
it]]]]]

I should note that further research has shown that this number is at minimum
$2,189,055, which translates into 5,853 ounces of gold. That's one BIG pot.

[[[[[Parr: Let's stop right there. The kid has given up trying to defend his
initial lie when he claimed as fact what he did not know. Now, then, we are
talking about roughly 160 federations worldwide. Even the kid's new figure,
which one can in no way accept at face value given his record of writing
ANYTHING that suits his fancy, is a pittance for the entire world. It is a
tiny mess of pottage for which the kid is willing to sacrifice dignity,
rationality and the traditional laissez passer of the chess world, three values
chessplayers have long cherished.]]]]]

[[[[[Mr. Fernandez, telling us that over many years, numbers will add up]]]]]

Of course, I will note that over the past 4 years, this number is likely more
than $10 Million dollars, mostly due to the fact that the Turkish Olympic
Committee gave $4.5 Million to the Turkish Chess Federation for the 2000
Olympiad.

[[[[[Parr: The total income of the USCF over the last 20 years is possibly
about $80 million. So what? Mr. Fernandez might have written that the figure
of governmental and NOC contributions to chess, if dated back to 1900, amounts
to, say, $50 million.

The bottom line is that the NOCs and governments apparently provide
chess about one to two million dollars a year WORLDWIDE, which might possibly
be forfeited if mandatory random drug testing were eschewed.

For this pittance, Mr. Fernandez would create a vast international drug
testing bureaucracy in chess and destroy careers so that there will be a place
in the sun for a man such as himself.]]]]]

[[[[[Larry Parr]]]]]

Once again: the bottom line for Mr. Fernandez is that there is a place
for his kind in chess, but there is no place for grandmasters or anyone else
who will not kowtow to random drug testing

[[[[[Mr. Fernandez]]]]]

I've done much more for grandmasters than you ever have.

[[[[[Parr: The kid has a limited point. Some of us helped to create the
climate that resulted in the PCA being formed which brought millions into the
game. Mr. Fernandez organizes some tournaments, though his contributions to
the pocketbooks of grandmasters in a direct sense is dwarfed by Kirsan
Ilyumzhinov or many of the private organizers who will have no truck with drug
testing.

Mr. Fernandez wishes to become one of the controllers over GMs -- a
guy who can tell his betters what he wants them to do, or ELSE! That is one of
his goals. The other is to carve out a career in chess administration, which
will only be lucrative when the bureaucracy grows larger. Oh, by the way, he
also told us a year ago that he was getting out of chess politics to
concentrate on improving his game.]]]]]

[[[[[Mr. Fernandez]]]]]

Oh yeah, why haven't you been a USCF member since August of 2002? Hopefully
you'll get thrown off your post(s) for this, as if being an asshat wasn't
enough.

[[[[[Larry Parr: I have no current post in the Federation, and I may indeed
be a member. My father said he renewed when I asked him. I'll will find out
what is the case. If I am no longer a member, I will rejoin quickly. As for
Mr. Fernandez's language in the above, the kid obviously is upset. He's a
lulu.]]]]]

snip lies by Parr

Not by me. This is of course completely untrue. I will agree that there are
some idiots in FIDE like Kirsan who did think this way.

I don't think is quite fair, John. Drug testing was never described as a
guarantee of Olympic recognition. It was always described as a necessary
precondition.

I think that their
behavior, especially by that moron "Dr." Press really hurt the situation and
gave you ammunition. That reality hasn't been true for years now, though.


Press was a problem. The propagandists did get ammunition from him. He was
the only person in FIDE who actually was pro-drug testing. He was also
replaced. That message was not lost on the propagandists, they merely chose to
ignore it.

Chess did not become an Olympic sport.

It is an Olympic sport.


It is useless to point out the facts to Parr, but other readers may wish to
know that chess is recongnized not only by many National Olympic Committees,
but is also part of the Central American, Asian and African games.

Tell that to the people fighting for IOC medals in chess this very moment.


Parr isn't interested in the truth.


We don't have drug testing.


But, didn't Evans warn Chess Life readers that universal testing was right
around the corner? We've turned quite a few corners since then. How could it
be possible for him to have been so wrong?


I've been circulating the list for, about a year now? You just don't like it.
That's not my problem.


Parr used to claim that no one derived any benefit from NOC recognition. I
relayed the information I'd gotten from the delegate from Barbados describing
the numerous benefits they'd gotten. Parr then changed his tune to claim that
we were drug testing for the price of a few plane tickets.

Fernandez documented the hundreds of thousands of dollars that NOC recognition
had brought in and produced an impressive list of countries deriving monetary
benefit from such recognition.
Parr keeps pretending that it was Fernandez who had it wrong all along. It
wasn't. It was Parr.

I should note that further research has shown that this number is at minimum
$2,189,055, which translates into 5,853 ounces of gold. That's one BIG pot.


I think the reasonable reader will conclude that sums of money of this
magnitude cannot be considered a pittance, especially when we are talking about
the world of chess. Do you realize how many years of operational deficits it
would take for the USCF to squander that amount of money?


Of course, I will note that over the past 4 years, this number is likely more
than $10 Million dollars, mostly due to the fact that the Turkish Olympic
Committee gave $4.5 Million to the Turkish Chess Federation for the 2000
Olympiad.


Hmm. Now, you're starting to talk about real money.



I've done much more for grandmasters than you ever have.


Parr cares nothing at all for the plight of the grandmasters, and knows nothing
at all about what motivates you, John. You were the best contributor to the
FIDE Advisory Committee and Parr did everything possible to drive you away from
it. That was one reason why Schultz was an idiot to appoint Parr in the first
place.

Organized chess keeps driving away the very people it needs most.


Oh yeah, why haven't you been a USCF member since August of 2002? Hopefully
you'll get thrown off your post(s) for this, as if being an asshat wasn't
enough.

John Fernandez



I am sorry that Parr is lying about your contributions, John. You were and are
a threat to him. You kept reporting facts. Those facts got in the way of
Parr's propaganda. He HAD to go after you.

By the way, I filter Parr's posts out. As always, if someone thinks he raises
a point I should respond to, please e-mail me directly. In all these years,
this has happened only once.



James Eade
Remove the Sheesh to respond. Don't worry. Talk happy.

Yeah, they didn't hear you in the first place. I think everyone else was
intelligent enough to have you killfiled for the most part.

Oh yeah, ignoring the "why I'm not a USCF member" part too.

John Fernandez



Parr will also assume that he has won a point, if no one responds to it. He
doesn't realize what the silence actually means.


James Eade
Remove the Sheesh to respond. Don't worry. Talk happy.

"Parr will also assume that he has won a point, if no one responds to it. He
doesn't realize what the silence actually means." (Jim Eade)
=============
It means Parr nailed Fernandez to a pine board... 36 nails in all.

RSHaas

DISDAIN FALLS MAINLY ON THE PLAIN?

By Larry Parr

Parr will also assume that he has won a point, if no one responds to it. He
doesn't realize what the silence actually means...(Jim Eade)
=============
It means Parr nailed Fernandez to a pine board... 36 nails in all. --
RSHaas

Jim Eade spoke of his utter disdain for this writer and for GM Larry
Evans on numerous occasions. He continues not to disdain us.

Jim Eade spoke of having far better things to do with his valuable time
than to hang around rgcp. He still hangs around rgcp.

I, for one, continue to believe Mr. Eade when he describes himself as
an affluent, important individual with better things to do with his time than
to fail to disdain those, including yours truly, whom he promised to disdain.

Perhaps the disdain falls mainly on the plain in Spain. Perhaps we have
an rgcp version of My Fair Gentleman. I know not.

In any event Mr. Eade and John Fernandez have fallen into colloquy. My
further comments appear in multiple brackets below.

[[[[[Jim Eade]]]]]

snip lies by Parr

[[[[[Parr: Translation: Mr. Eade can relate no lies, so he claims them.
Specifically, he does not wish to deal with Mr. Fernandez's ludicrous claim to
have had three dozen insider Olympic sources telling him, as he "worked the
phones," that chess would be in the Beijing Olympics. Mr. Fernandez made this
claim 24 hours before chess was rejected in the 2008 Beijing Olympics.]]]]]

[[[[[Mr. Fernandez]]]]]

Not by me. This is of course completely untrue. I will agree that there are
some idiots in FIDE like Kirsan who did think this way.

[[[[[Mr. Eade, tapping Mr. Fernandez just a mite on the knuckles]]]]]

I don't think is quite fair, John. Drug testing was never described as a
guarantee of Olympic recognition. It was always described as a necessary
precondition.

[[[[[Parr: I also noted the distinction between necessary and sufficient
conditions. However, the real sell was not that chess would appear somewhere
in Asia or Africa but that chess in the Olympics would benefit chess IN
AMERICA. That was always hogwash.]]]]]

[[[[[Mr. Fernandez]]]]]

I think that their behavior, especially by that moron "Dr." Press really hurt
the situation and gave you ammunition. That reality hasn't been true for years
now, though.

[[[[[Mr. Eade, making a claim]]]]]

Press was a problem. The propagandists did get ammunition from him. He was
the only person in FIDE who actually was pro-drug testing. He was also
replaced. That message was not lost on the propagandists, they merely chose to
ignore it.

[[[[[Parr: Mr. Eade claims that Dr. Press "was the only person in FIDE who
actually was pro-drug testing." This is an arrant, arrogant lie. Straight
out. FIDE paid his expenses to tout dope testing around the world and fired
him when the bill got too high.

One notes, for example, that FIDE itself jumped the gun on drug testing,
carrying out testing of kids at a youth event in Argentina even BEFORE FIDE had
adopted its own regulations! There is now a permament medical bureaucracy built
into the FIDE structure with arbiters being paid to attend events to oversee
drug testing. What is one to make of Mr. Eade's claim that only Dr. Press in
FIDE favored drug testing? That is not only a lie -- but an evident clumsy
lie.]]]]]