A lot if folks wonder what will become of adult OTB chess. Here's one
thing to think about. One way or another, it will take money to turn it around
and drive it forward.
A Mensa type treatment would cost Chess HQ money in the form of a transfer
of capital to the basic market level. A cut in dues might cost Chess HQ as
much or more that a Mensa treatment.
Or, we can hope that traditional individual "chess capitalist" promoters
will assume more personal risk in an open market (for adult chess) that offers
them little or no profitable return in most cases and most places. You can be
assured that under present circumstances individual promoters will not drive
adult chess very strongly or very far. The overall operating situation now is
far different from the 1960's and 1970's.


RSHaas

Puh-lease!!

Isn't Mensa currently tottering on the brink of financial ruin?


"RSHaas" wrote in message
...
A lot if folks wonder what will become of adult OTB chess. Here's one
thing to think about. One way or another, it will take money to turn it
around
and drive it forward.
A Mensa type treatment would cost Chess HQ money in the form of a
transfer
of capital to the basic market level. A cut in dues might cost Chess HQ
as
much or more that a Mensa treatment.
Or, we can hope that traditional individual "chess capitalist"
promoters
will assume more personal risk in an open market (for adult chess) that
offers
them little or no profitable return in most cases and most places. You
can be
assured that under present circumstances individual promoters will not
drive
adult chess very strongly or very far. The overall operating situation now
is
far different from the 1960's and 1970's.


RSHaas

"Puh-lease!! Isn't Mensa currently tottering on the brink of financial ruin?"
(Tom Klem)
=========
I don't know. I'll try to find out. But that wouldn't change my view that
a national chess federation could make good use of certain aspects of the Mensa
structure.
If we can't have something akin to a Mensa treatment, we don't need to send
Chess HQ anything close to $49 for a membership. $15 just to be on the ratings
database would interest me. That would benefit the sub-national entities such
as organizers, clubs, states, etc.

RSHaas

OMOVOP.

Tom KLem
"One Member, One Vote, One Price!---$25 bucks"

"HAASpittle" wrote in message
...
"Puh-lease!! Isn't Mensa currently tottering on the brink of financial
ruin?"
(Tom Klem)
=========
I don't know. I'll try to find out. But that wouldn't change my view
that
a national chess federation could make good use of certain aspects of the
Mensa
structure.
If we can't have something akin to a Mensa treatment, we don't need to
send
Chess HQ anything close to $49 for a membership. $15 just to be on the
ratings
database would interest me. That would benefit the sub-national entities
such
as organizers, clubs, states, etc.

RSHaas

Rich, don't feel inhibited. We're very eager to learn how the Mensa model
can save USCF. Please post on this subject. Don't hold anything back from
us. The future of western civilization depends on you.

Angelo

"RSHaas" wrote in message
...
A lot if folks wonder what will become of adult OTB chess. Here's one
thing to think about. One way or another, it will take money to turn it
around
and drive it forward.
A Mensa type treatment would cost Chess HQ money in the form of a
transfer
of capital to the basic market level. A cut in dues might cost Chess HQ
as
much or more that a Mensa treatment.
Or, we can hope that traditional individual "chess capitalist"
promoters
will assume more personal risk in an open market (for adult chess) that
offers
them little or no profitable return in most cases and most places. You
can be
assured that under present circumstances individual promoters will not
drive
adult chess very strongly or very far. The overall operating situation now
is
far different from the 1960's and 1970's.


RSHaas

"Rich, don't feel inhibited. We're very eager to learn how the Mensa model can
save USCF. Please post on this subject. Don't hold anything back from us. The
future of western civilization depends on you.
(Angelo)
==============
Patronizing snot-nosed NY-NJ'er.

RSHaas

Of course, a cut in dues greater than $10/$5 per adult/youth would cost
Chess HQ more than the Mensa treatment I favor.
One way or the other, the revitalization of adult chess will cost HQ
considerable money.
It is a fair guess that Chess HQ will make no such investment or
concession. In time organized adult rated chess will become just a New York
area thing.. maybe with Chicago and Los Angeles hanging a while, too.
Of course, to those guys that is "national" enough and the rest of the
country doesn't matter.. and never did matter.

RSHaas

HAASpittle wrote:

Of course, a cut in dues greater than $10/$5 per adult/youth would cost
Chess HQ more than the Mensa treatment I favor.
One way or the other, the revitalization of adult chess will cost HQ
considerable money.
It is a fair guess that Chess HQ will make no such investment or
concession. In time organized adult rated chess will become just a New York
area thing.. maybe with Chicago and Los Angeles hanging a while, too.
Of course, to those guys that is "national" enough and the rest of the
country doesn't matter.. and never did matter.

RSHaas

Actually it won't cost them anything, because they're not going to do
it, it is never going to happen and USCF will soon be gone.

Best Regards,

Bruce

"Angelo DePalma" wrote in message ...
Rich, don't feel inhibited. We're very eager to learn how the Mensa model
can save USCF. Please post on this subject. Don't hold anything back from
us. The future of western civilization depends on you.

Angelo

Yes Rich, and please give us your uninformed views on state affiliates
and state chess magazines.

"Tom Klem" wrote in message news:Ov7wb.16724$kl6.71@fed1read03...
Puh-lease!!

Isn't Mensa currently tottering on the brink of financial ruin?
______________________________________

No, in all fairness, Mensa it is not on the "brink of financial ruin,"
at least not in the U.S. Although American Mensa is projecting a
deficit for this year, it is more than offset by several consecutive
years of surplus. It is still financially strong, at least according
to its published financials.

KidDon