And this guy ran for the USCF board?? And people were actually surprised
when he lost? What a bunch of losers.

Chris


"Matt Nemmers" wrote in message
news:00xxb.327477$HS4.2835743@attbi_s01...
"Rolf Tueschen" wrote in message
...
Matt Nemmers is a dirty crook who should leave usenet at the instant.

Matt Nemmers has insuated that Sam Sloan had written on his webpages
that
he
had had sex with under-aged Tahi girls. Then I took Matt Nemmers to task
and
asked him for the exact link. That was three or four days ago. Since
Matt
Nemmers appeared again with other postings but didn't react on my
challenge he
is guilty of character assassination against Sam Sloan. Also he had lied
to all
the readers on usenet. Matt Nemmers is allegedly 29 years old by his own
admission.

Don't show up your stinking brain here again, Matt Nemmers. Coward who
you
are
you prefer to hide your true identity so that you can spread all these
lies and
insults.

Rolf

Mighty strong words, little man. My how I must've upset you by insulting
your idol. I saw no reason to provide you -- someone coming onto this
forum
very late in the game, defending Sloan without a shred of basic knowledge
about the man, and DEMANDING proof from people who disagree with your
idolatry of him -- proof of my assertions. But nevertheless, to rehash
something that's been beaten to death on this forum yet you have not the
tenacity to look up for yourself, I offer this:

The following text by Sam Sloan comes from his webpage at
http://www.samsloan.com/chantabu.htm:
"When my turn came, I went into the booth with three other men. The
curtain
came down. As soon as the curtain came down, the young girl who was in
front
of me grabbed my hand, pushed my hand down into her panties, and stuck my
finger into her pussy.

"Then, seconds later, the young girl abruptly pulled my hand out of her
pussy. At just the moment that she got my hand out of her pussy and out of
her panties, the curtain went back up.

"This was an amazing deal. I had gotten a free feel for just eight cents,
American money.

"I went around the fair. There were several other booths with young girls
in
them. I went into each of them, and had my finger stuck into many young
pussies, all at the cost of two baht each."

There is plenty more like this throughout Sam's website.

Such as the young Thai girl whose virginity was offered to him, but Sam
waited a week till her price had gone down considerably: "I left Maesai,
but
I was thinking about this girl. When I came back one week later, her price
had come down to 200 bhat. Her virginity had been sold. I took advantage
of
this reduction in price." Details at http://www.samsloan.com/maesai-v.htm.

Many thanks to Neil Brennen and Stan Booz. Hope you and your families
have
a wonderful Thanksgiving.

As for Rolf -- I hope now you'll quit bothering me about this while I'm
working. After all, I don't come down to the bus station and slap the
dick
out of your mouth while you're working, do I?

Regards,

Matt Nemmers (a REAL person)

http://www.quadcitychess.com/rgcp2.html

"Rolf Tueschen" wrote in message
...
wrote:"The Masked Bishop" wrote in message
y.com...
Where is the exact link for the alleged sex with under-aged Thai
girls?




Not sure you got this one, with the young Thai
girls...http://www.samsloan.com/chantabu.htm

- Der Wiesel


I saw the page. Could you point to the line where Sam Sloan is writing of
having sex = intercourse with an underaged Thai girl?

I couldn't find it but then my English is very restricted.

Thanks in advance

Rolf

Girl indicates someone who is not an adult. Young girl indicates someone
who is far from an adult, i.e. clearly under age. Sam describes a sex act.
It doesn't require genital-genital intercourse.


- Der Wiesel

Rolf,

I gave you facts, not name calling. I do not intend to do your homework for
you. Mr Sloan has published many of the facts to which you are now privy, on
his own website.

The Virigina State Department of Correction can be contacted on the felony
incarceration.

And, should you really wish it, you could spend some time researching google
for all the rest.

I didn't make any of what I said up. Sloan is everything you have before
you, and then some.

Sorry Rolf, you are simply wrong.

Tom Klem

"Rolf Tueschen" wrote in message
...
Oh God, is that your real name, Tom? Excuse me that I ask because I don't
know
all the people in the American chess union.

But I can already say that I feel sorry for you that you have so much
hatred
for Sam Sloan. And I believe that you honestly feel like that. But I've
read
most of the webpages and I can see nothing evil in what Sam Sloan has
written.
It would help a lot if you could differentiate pure name-calling and exact
quoting. You simply call him all sort of things but you don't give the
evidence. Is that the American way of public discourse? I have strong
doubts.

Don't take me wrong. I am on no party's side. I aqm completely
independant. And
until you can't provide evidence I cannot accept your labels.

Where is the exact link for the alleged sex with under-aged Thai girls?
Come
on, ain't you man enough to search for the evidence you need if you make
such
defamations?

I hope that I am right if I think that in the USA you have a minimum of
respect
for each other until someone is proven guilty by a court verdict. You
don't
behave like a lynching mob, no?

All the best,

Rolf

What a bunch of losers

Welcome to the USCF. Don't renew---take a year off from the USCF, and send a
REAL message.

TMB

Whatever, Rolf. Do the research, it's all there. We won't hold our breath
for you to admit you were dead wrong. That would take a man to do, one with
honor. Got any?

--TMB

(KidDon) wrote:

(Rolf Tueschen) wrote in message
...
Matt Nemmers is a dirty crook who should leave usenet at the instant.

Matt Nemmers has insuated that Sam Sloan had written on his webpages that
he
had had sex with under-aged Tahi girls. Then I took Matt Nemmers to task
and
asked him for the exact link. That was three or four days ago. Since Matt
Nemmers appeared again with other postings but didn't react on my challenge
he
is guilty of character assassination against Sam Sloan. Also he had lied to
all
the readers on usenet. Matt Nemmers is allegedly 29 years old by his own
admission.

Don't show up your stinking brain here again, Matt Nemmers. Coward who you
are
you prefer to hide your true identity so that you can spread all these lies
and
insults.

Rolf

_________________________________
Rolf: I don't know what Matt accused Sam of, or what Sam may or may
not have done. However, you may want to check these links before
judging either Matt or Sam:

Caution: Don't click these links if you are under the age of 18,
and/or offended by "adult" material. Even those not offended by
"adult" material will be offended by some of this, including but not
limited to Sam's "how2rape":


I don't get what you mean! Are you saying that this page about "how2rape" is
sort of routine for rapists with love from Sloan?

It is as you - with the many others as well - are disgusted by the description
of sexual content as such. Although you are familiar with sex. You make the
short-cut "Sloan talks much so he must be a criminal sex pervert". That is
totally wrong.

A real pervert wouldn't talk so much, believe me. I know the cases. As a
professional. Rape is something for men with weak ego. But now look for a
second. Has Sam a weak ego??? Rape is about having power over a woman. All that
is criminal. But who are the lawfiles against Sloan???

Therefore all that to me sounds like character assassination.

Sloan is declared libertin, yes. But why should he be a criminal?

Sam is also a gifted writer but does he 100% write about real life?

Did you really think about all that?

1 Sam writes something

2 You take that for a reality

3 If that were a crime what he writes why don't you file a law suit?

Rolf




http://www.anusha.com/how2rape.htm
http://www.samsloan.com/pornplot.htm
http://www.samsloan.com/threesom.htm
http://www.samsloan.com/ininlaw.htm
http://www.samsloan.com/got-her.htm
http://www.samsloan.com/catholic.htm
http://www.samsloan.com/chantabu.htm
http://www.samsloan.com/arraign.htm
http://www.ishipress.com/trobrian.htm
http://www.anusha.com/girlspic.htm

KidDon

Just a question so that I can continue to make up my mind:

The description of folklore with 4 men entering a tent-like room behind a
curtain where someone takes a finger of a man and puts it into ""her vagina"
for a couple of money... do you read that as a sort of sexual misuse?

How could Sam Sloan know that he was not licked by the tongue of the dog?

How do you know what Sam really enjoyed?

What I only take for granted is the fact that the whole scenarion DID happen
over there. Bad enough. But it wasn't invented or hosted by Sam Sloan.

Did you overlook that nowhere the exact ages are mentioned?

Did you read that Sam took the 19 [!!] y. old guide when he was offerend
hundreds of little kids. Would that be the normal behaviour of a molestor of
children??

Please tell me more about how you read it. So that I can understand why you are
so insulted by these pages.

Also: if something somewhere were a criminal case why don't you initiate a law
suit against Sloan instead of condemning him here on usenet?

How do you oppose the accusation that it could be character assassination?

Further: did you read Henry Miller?

Important too: why the USA doesn't deal with violence? But sexuality is a taboo
and held under secrecy?

And please tell me exactly where in these links you thankfully gave me, Sam
violated underaged girls. I couldn't find a single case!

After you responded I take back my own ugly language of your stinking brain.
Bad vocabulary by a foreigner. Excuse me.

But the continual character assassination of this man is also a relevant story.
Don't you agree?

Rolf

Altes Wiesel" wrote:

Girl indicates someone who is not an adult. Young girl indicates someone
who is far from an adult, i.e. clearly under age.

And how do you judge that Sam also defined a 19 y. old guide as a girl? Or
Kournikova who also isn't underaged? How is that in order with your
definition??

Do you confuse a literate preferance with a judicial fact?



Sam describes a sex act.
It doesn't require genital-genital intercourse.

I agree he descibes something but was it really sex? How do you know that he
really was in the vaginas of these girls? How could he know when it was all
dark?

Rolf





- Der Wiesel

"Rolf Tueschen" wrote in message
...
Just a question so that I can continue to make up my mind:

The description of folklore with 4 men entering a tent-like room behind a
curtain where someone takes a finger of a man and puts it into ""her
vagina"
for a couple of money... do you read that as a sort of sexual misuse?

How could Sam Sloan know that he was not licked by the tongue of the dog?

How do you know what Sam really enjoyed?

What I only take for granted is the fact that the whole scenarion DID
happen
over there. Bad enough. But it wasn't invented or hosted by Sam Sloan.

Did you overlook that nowhere the exact ages are mentioned?

Did you read that Sam took the 19 [!!] y. old guide when he was offerend
hundreds of little kids. Would that be the normal behaviour of a molestor
of
children??

Please tell me more about how you read it. So that I can understand why
you are
so insulted by these pages.

Also: if something somewhere were a criminal case why don't you initiate a
law
suit against Sloan instead of condemning him here on usenet?

How do you oppose the accusation that it could be character assassination?

Further: did you read Henry Miller?

Important too: why the USA doesn't deal with violence? But sexuality is a
taboo
and held under secrecy?

And please tell me exactly where in these links you thankfully gave me,
Sam
violated underaged girls. I couldn't find a single case!

After you responded I take back my own ugly language of your stinking
brain.
Bad vocabulary by a foreigner. Excuse me.

But the continual character assassination of this man is also a relevant
story.
Don't you agree?

Rolf

Hey Rolf, take your time making up your mind about whatever you want -- I
don't give a **** what you think about me either way and I don't have to
prove **** to you. And you can interpret "violat[ing] underage girls"
however you want. I have my own definition of it and two little girls of my
own; if Sloan got within twenty feet of them I'd drop him like a bad habit.

I have neither the time or inclination to explain myself to a newbie who
knows nothing of Sam Sloan other than somebody quoted something that he read
off of Sloan's website so that all of the sudden makes him some kind of
"authority." You know **** about me and you obviously know **** about
Sloan -- if you did, you wouldn't be defending his impropriety by asking
these stupid questions.

I'm through arguing this with someone who flies off the handle with ad
hominem attacks without all the facts or even doing a little bit of
research. Besides, if you've read Sloan's website and see nothing *morally*
askew, then you're even more ****ed up than Sloan himself. It might help if
you quit being so god-damned sanctimonious about this, too -- trying to pass
yourself off as some kind of "educated gentleman" after the flame you
started with my name in the header just makes you look like even more of a
jackass than you've already made yourself out to be.

Now why don't you goose-step your ass back to where you came from, get the
facts, and THEN give your opinion. I've got very little patience for people
like you.

Matt

trying to pass
yourself off as some kind of "educated gentleman" after the flame you
started with my name in the header just makes you look like even more of a
jackass than you've already made yourself out to be.

Matt, I am so confused by all this - can I say a few thoughts of my own?
Perhaps you can say something to me.

There are hundreds of examples of American men mentioning other men's
bottoms [as you did above] when their emotions become engaged. What this
says about you all is nothing I want to consider here, since I think such
views are not socially welcome, instead we discuss Sam's behavior toward
women, which is apparently controversial. You are evidently angry, but in
your longish post (I snipped part of it) did not say why. Is it really
because the subject of heterosexual activity was raised?

Is this conversation possibly about how we (males!) talk about sex?

Now why don't you goose-step your ass back to where you came from, get the
facts, and THEN give your opinion. I've got very little patience for
people
like you.

Now you finish your message with something worse than the taboo of sex, and
start in with the taboo of 'goose-stepping' - which is some racial fling
against German people, presumably. The person you wrote with mentioned Henry
Miller as an attempt to engage you; did you ever read him? What is your
association with his writing? Goosestepping?

I can tell you, unless you already know about Miller, so these comments are
unnecessary to you, that what he wrote mainly about the human spirit. That
sex, and its role in people's psyche's, can be important to this subject
since sexual things can be deeply motivating and com-plexed, is perhaps why
we are often shy of discussing these things, on a cultural level.

Rolf is not an 'educated gentleman' which is all to-British, no? But
evidently he is sufficiently savant to engage a difficult subject in public,
not on his own behalf, but for another person.

So help me understand you.

Is it that the subject that you regret is sexual writing /about/ men? Or
that you disagree /with/ the sexual writing of men.

Respectfully, Phil Innes

Matt