The No. 3-ranked player in the world, in an interview in The Indian Express,
reveals that his real name is Anand Krishnamurthy and not Vishwanathan Anand or
"Vishy" Anand, as he is known in the chess world. Anand says that his father's
name is Vishwanathan Krishnamurthy.
Check out the full interview, which is available courtesy of
http://chessbase.com

George Mirijanian

In article , Miriling wrote:
The No. 3-ranked player in the world, in an interview in The Indian Express,
reveals that his real name is Anand Krishnamurthy and not Vishwanathan Anand or
"Vishy" Anand, as he is known in the chess world. Anand says that his father's
name is Vishwanathan Krishnamurthy.
Check out the full interview, which is available courtesy of
http://chessbase.com

George Mirijanian


Puts the 1995 Weinstein-Krishnamurthy World Championship match in a whole new
perspective. The only WC match where none of the competitors used their real
names.

--Kevin

The No. 3-ranked player in the world, in an interview in The Indian Express,
reveals that his real name is Anand Krishnamurthy and not Vishwanathan Anand
or
"Vishy" Anand, as he is known in the chess world. Anand says that his
father's
name is Vishwanathan Krishnamurthy.
Check out the full interview, which is available courtesy of
http://chessbase.com

George Mirijanian



George,

The Indian custom is to take your father's first name as your last, thus his
name is Anand Vishwanathan as he states in the interview.

Grant

Dear George,

Heil Dubya!

I think you may have misunderstood Anand and the interviewer. I interpret that
part of the interview (discussing Anand's name) as commenting on (satirizing?)
the influence of Europe. His "real" name is ANAND period. He and his
interviewer clearly agree on that.

For certain social purposes, people in the community into which he was born
take the name (NOT THE FIRST NAME) of their father as a "modifier". We
Europeans insist -- ignorantly, as well as arrogantly -- that they conform to
our practice of "given" and "family" names. However, in the case of Anand, the
father has a name (Vishwanthan) and the son has a name (Anand). Neither has a
"family name", although each has a surname, but only for certain social
purposes.

In a very real sense, this is like the Medieval European practice of
identifying individuals by their birth places. Although Leonardo may be called
"post-Medieval", he had no "surname". However, following that practice, he was
known as da Vinci (from Vinci). Almost all persons alive today -- of French,
Italian or Spanish birth or ancestry -- whose "family names" begin with da, de
or di get the name from this practice. The same goes for van and von in
persons of Dutch and German ancestry.
This is related to the "sen", "son" and "sson" suffixes so very common in
northeastern European family names. Not all Johnsons are the son of John.
However, almost all Johnsons have an ancestor who was the son of John.

The No. 3-ranked player in the world, in an interview in The Indian Express,
reveals that his real name is Anand Krishnamurthy and not Vishwanathan Anand
or
"Vishy" Anand, as he is known in the chess world. Anand says that his
father's
name is Vishwanathan Krishnamurthy.
Check out the full interview, which is available courtesy of
http://chessbase.com

George Mirijanian

Heute Uhmuhrikkka, Afghanistan und Irak. Morgen die ganze Welt!

Uhmuhrikkka, Uhmuhrikkka über Alles!

(Was 11 September 2001 Kristallnacht or the date of the Reichstag fire?)

Fraternally,

Jerome Bibuld
[I did not go on trial on 5 January, for refusing to move away from a
demonstration site -- against the U. S. invasion of Iraq -- when ordered by a
member of the Army of Occupation of Westchester County, despite the fact that
the demonstrators had a "permit" to do exactly what I was doing, at the time
and place I was doing it. Instead the "system" copped out by offering an ACD
(Adjournment in Contemplation of Dismissal). The ACD effectively prevents suit
for false arrest. Twice, the U. S. INjustice system had postponed trial, in a
case which should have been dismissed out of hand. But, of course, that's part
of the system. This took up MY time -- and that of my lawyer, whose time is
worth more than I PAID him. Meanwhile, the judges, assistant district
attorneys, court clerks, bailiffs, stenotypists and other apparatchniks were
being paid by MY taxes and the taxes of other citizens and subjects of the
United States. My son, Douglass, has coined an apt phrase that I am proud to
use: HYPOCRISY, NOT DEMOCRACY!]
gens una sumus

"Kevin Croxen" wrote
Miriling wrote:
The No. 3-ranked player in the world, in an interview in The Indian Express,
reveals that his real name is Anand Krishnamurthy and not Vishwanathan Anand or
"Vishy" Anand, as he is known in the chess world. Anand says that his father's
name is Vishwanathan Krishnamurthy.
Check out the full interview, which is available courtesy of
http://chessbase.com

George Mirijanian


Puts the 1995 Weinstein-Krishnamurthy World Championship match in a whole new
perspective. The only WC match where none of the competitors used their real
names.

Kramnik-Weinstein as well, per Andy Soltis

Heil Dubya!

As much as I detest Kasparov, he is ENTITLED to the name he chooses and that is
KASPAROV (kas PAR off), not Weinstein (VAIN shtain). It shows contempt of his
humanity (as opposed to contempt of his personality) to insist on Weinstein.
As a "joke", the insistence on Weinstein is in abominable (humorous) taste.

"Kevin Croxen" wrote
Miriling wrote:
The No. 3-ranked player in the world, in an interview in The Indian
Express,
reveals that his real name is Anand Krishnamurthy and not Vishwanathan
Anand or
"Vishy" Anand, as he is known in the chess world. Anand says that his
father's
name is Vishwanathan Krishnamurthy.
Check out the full interview, which is available courtesy of
http://chessbase.com

George Mirijanian


Puts the 1995 Weinstein-Krishnamurthy World Championship match in a whole
new
perspective. The only WC match where none of the competitors used their
real
names.

Kramnik-Weinstein as well, per Andy Soltis


Heute Uhmuhrikkka, Afghanistan und Irak. Morgen die ganze Welt!

Uhmuhrikkka, Uhmuhrikkka über Alles!

(Was 11 September 2001 Kristallnacht or the date of the Reichstag fire?)

Fraternally,

Jerome Bibuld
[I did not go on trial on 5 January, for refusing to move away from a
demonstration site -- against the U. S. invasion of Iraq -- when ordered by a
member of the Army of Occupation of Westchester County, despite the fact that
the demonstrators had a "permit" to do exactly what I was doing, at the time
and place I was doing it. Instead the "system" copped out by offering an ACD
(Adjournment in Contemplation of Dismissal). The ACD effectively prevents suit
for false arrest. Twice, the U. S. INjustice system had postponed trial, in a
case which should have been dismissed out of hand. But, of course, that's part
of the system. This took up MY time -- and that of my lawyer, whose time is
worth more than I PAID him. Meanwhile, the judges, assistant district
attorneys, court clerks, bailiffs, stenotypists and other apparatchniks were
being paid by MY taxes and the taxes of other citizens and subjects of the
United States. My son, Douglass, has coined an apt phrase that I am proud to
use: HYPOCRISY, NOT DEMOCRACY!]
gens una sumus

Subject: Anand reveals real full name in interview

On 9 January 2004 ojunk (GrantPerks) replied correctly in
Message-id:


George,

The Indian custom is to take your father's first name as your last, thus his
name is Anand Vishwanathan as he states in the interview.

Grant


Grant, I stand corrected. Thank you. His name is Anand Vishwanathan, as
stated; his father's name is Vishwanathan Krishmamurthy.

George Mirijanian

(Miriling) writes:
Grant, I stand corrected. Thank you. His name is Anand Vishwanathan, as
stated; his father's name is Vishwanathan Krishmamurthy.

But I think that's still wrong. Anand's name is Anand. He has just
one name, sort of like Suharto (hmm not such a flattering comparison).
Anand's father's name is Vishwanathan, who also has just one name.
That's the normal practice in that part of India.

When Anand writes down "Anand V." or "Anand Vishwanathan" that's just
to help prevent confusing him with another Anand, sort of like
"Aragorn son of Arathorn", but "Vishwanathan" is not actually part of
Anand's name. Ganesan (another Tamil-speaking chessplayer who has
just one name, and who interviewed Anand) wrote an article a while
back explaining this.

Same with Chinese names also - I belive Japanese switched their "official"
names to the "Western" standard.

John Fernandez

Subject: Anand reveals real full name in interview

On 9 January 2004 Paul Rubin replied in
Message-id:

(Miriling) writes:
Grant, I stand corrected. Thank you. His name is Anand Vishwanathan, as
stated; his father's name is Vishwanathan Krishmamurthy.

Paul Rubin replied:

But I think that's still wrong. Anand's name is Anand. He has just
one name, sort of like Suharto (hmm not such a flattering comparison).
Anand's father's name is Vishwanathan, who also has just one name.
That's the normal practice in that part of India.

When Anand writes down "Anand V." or "Anand Vishwanathan" that's just
to help prevent confusing him with another Anand, sort of like
"Aragorn son of Arathorn", but "Vishwanathan" is not actually part of
Anand's name. Ganesan (another Tamil-speaking chessplayer who has
just one name, and who interviewed Anand) wrote an article a while
back explaining this.

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So, in other words, Anand is Anand - nothing more than that.
So what about his giving his father's name as Vishwanathan Krishnamurthy? His
mother's name is given in many places as Sushila Vishwanathan (wife of
Vishwanathan?).
If, in the interview, he says his name is Anand Vishwanathan, is he saying in
effect that he is Anand, son of Vishwanathan?
And if he has only one name, shouldn't he be identified in the chess world, by
FIDE and others as simply Anand? Nothing more, nothing less. Isn't it time to
get rid of "Vishy"?

George Mirijanian