It's been said that there's no online copy of Executive Order 12810.
Here's one, taken from

http://www.uhuh.com/laws/donncoll/eo/1992/EO12810.TXT:

[12810 was signed 5 June 1992]

[I've also included a schedule of amendments]

***BEGIN COPY***

EX. ORD. NO. 12810. BLOCKING PROPERTY OF AND PROHIBITING
TRANSACTIONS WITH FEDERAL REPUBLIC OF YUGOSLAVIA (SERBIA AND
MONTENEGRO)

Ex. Ord. No. 12810, June 5, 1992, 57 F.R. 24347, as amended by
Ex. Ord. No. 12831, Sec. 4, Jan. 15, 1993, 58 F.R. 5253, provided:

By the authority vested in me as President by the Constitution
and the laws of the United States of America, including the
International Emergency Economic Powers Act (50 U.S.C. 1701, et
seq.), the National Emergencies Act (50 U.S.C. 1601, et seq.),
section 1114 of the Federal Aviation Act of 1958, as amended (49
U.S.C. App. 1514), section 5 of the United Nations Participation
Act of 1945, as amended (22 U.S.C. 287c), and section 301 of title
3 of the United States Code, in view of United Nations Security
Council Resolution No. 757 of May 30, 1992, and in order to take
additional steps with respect to the actions and policies of the
Federal Republic of Yugoslavia (Serbia and Montenegro) and the
national emergency described and declared in Executive Order No.
12808 (set out above),

I, GEORGE BUSH, President of the United States of America, hereby
order:

Section 1. Except to the extent provided in regulations, orders,
directives, or licenses which may hereafter be issued pursuant to
this order, and notwithstanding the existence of any rights or
obligations conferred or imposed by any international agreement or
any contract entered into or any license or permit granted before
the effective date of this order, all property and interests in
property of the Government of the Federal Republic of Yugoslavia
(Serbia and Montenegro), and property and interests in property
held in the name of the Government of the Federal Republic of
Yugoslavia or of the former Government of the Socialist Federal
Republic of Yugoslavia, that are in the United States, that
hereafter come within the United States, or that are or hereafter
come within the possession or control of United States persons,
including their overseas branches, are blocked.

Sec. 2. The following are prohibited, notwithstanding the
existence of any rights or obligations conferred or imposed by any
international agreement or any contract entered into or any license
or permit granted before the effective date of this order, except
to the extent provided in regulations, orders, directives, or
licenses which may hereafter be issued pursuant to this order:

(a) The importation into the United States of any goods
originating in, or services performed in, the Federal Republic of
Yugoslavia (Serbia and Montenegro), exported from the Federal
Republic of Yugoslavia (Serbia and Montenegro) after May 30, 1992,
or any activity that promotes or is intended to promote such
importation;

(b) The exportation to the Federal Republic of Yugoslavia (Serbia
and Montenegro), or to any entity operated from the Federal
Republic of Yugoslavia (Serbia and Montenegro), or owned or
controlled by the Government of the Federal Republic of Yugoslavia
(Serbia and Montenegro), directly or indirectly, of any goods,
technology (including technical data or other information
controlled for export pursuant to the Export Administration
Regulations, 15 C.F.R. Parts 768, et seq.), or services, either (i)
from the United States, (ii) requiring the issuance of a license by
a Federal agency, or (iii) involving the use of U.S.-registered
vessels or aircraft, or any activity that promotes or is intended
to promote such exportation;

(c) Any dealing by a United States person related to property
originating in the Federal Republic of Yugoslavia (Serbia and
Montenegro) exported from the Federal Republic of Yugoslavia
(Serbia and Montenegro) after May 30, 1992, or property intended
for exportation from the Federal Republic of Yugoslavia (Serbia and
Montenegro) to any country, or exportation to the Federal Republic
of Yugoslavia (Serbia and Montenegro) from any country, or any
activity of any kind that promotes or is intended to promote such
dealing;

(d) Any transaction by a United States person, or involving the
use of U.S.-registered vessels and aircraft, relating to
transportation to or from the Federal Republic of Yugoslavia
(Serbia and Montenegro), the provision of transportation to or from
the United States by any person in the Federal Republic of
Yugoslavia (Serbia and Montenegro) or any vessel or aircraft
registered in the Federal Republic of Yugoslavia (Serbia and
Montenegro), or the sale in the United States by any person holding
authority under the Federal Aviation Act of 1958, as amended (49
U.S.C. 1301, et seq.) (now 49 U.S.C. 40101 et seq.), of any
transportation by air that includes any stop in the Federal
Republic of Yugoslavia (Serbia and Montenegro);

(e) The granting of permission to any aircraft to take off from,
land in, or overfly the United States, if the aircraft, as part of
the same flight or as a continuation of that flight, is destined to
land in or has taken off from the territory of the Federal Republic
of Yugoslavia (Serbia and Montenegro);

(f) The performance by any United States person of any contract,
including a financing contract, in support of an industrial,
commercial, public utility, or governmental project in the Federal
Republic of Yugoslavia (Serbia and Montenegro);

(g) Any commitment or transfer, direct or indirect, of funds, or
other financial or economic resources by any United States person
to or for the benefit of the Government of the Federal Republic of
Yugoslavia (Serbia and Montenegro) or any other person in the
Federal Republic of Yugoslavia (Serbia and Montenegro);

(h) Any transaction in the United States or by a United States
person related to participation in sporting events in the United
States by persons or groups representing the Federal Republic of
Yugoslavia (Serbia and Montenegro);

(i) (Revoked by Ex. Ord. No. 12831, Sec. 4, Jan. 15, 1993, 58
F.R. 5253.)

Sec. 3. Nothing in this order shall apply to (i) the
transshipment through the Federal Republic of Yugoslavia (Serbia
and Montenegro) of commodities and products originating outside the
Federal Republic of Yugoslavia (Serbia and Montenegro) and
temporarily present in the territory of the Federal Republic of
Yugoslavia (Serbia and Montenegro) only for the purpose of such
transshipment, and (ii) activities related to the United Nations
Protection Force (UNPROFOR), the Conference on Yugoslavia, or the
European Community Monitor Mission.

Sec. 4. Any transaction by any United States person that evades
or avoids, or has the purpose of evading or avoiding, or attempts
to violate, any of the prohibitions set forth in this order is
prohibited.

Sec. 5. For the purposes of this order:

(a) The term ''United States person'' means any United States
citizen, permanent resident alien, juridical person organized under
the laws of the United States (including foreign branches), or any
person in the United States, and vessels and aircraft of U.S.
registration;

(b) The term ''the Federal Republic of Yugoslavia (Serbia and
Montenegro)'' means the territory of Serbia and Montenegro;

(c) The term ''the Government of the Federal Republic of
Yugoslavia (Serbia and Montenegro)'' includes the government of the
newly constituted Federal Republic of Yugoslavia, the Government of
Serbia, and the Government of Montenegro, including any
subdivisions thereof or local governments therein, their respective
agencies, instrumentalities and controlled entities, and any
persons acting or purporting to act for or on behalf of any of the
foregoing, including the National Bank of Yugoslavia, the Yugoslav
National Army, and the Yugoslav Chamber of Economy, the National
Bank of Serbia, the Serbian Chamber of Economy, the National Bank
of Montenegro, and the Montenegrin Chamber of Economy.

Sec. 6. The Secretary of the Treasury, in consultation with the
Secretary of State, is hereby authorized to take such actions,
including the promulgation of rules and regulations, and to employ
all powers granted to the President by the International Emergency
Economic Powers Act (50 U.S.C. 1701 et seq.) and the United Nations
Participation Act (22 U.S.C. 287 et seq.), as may be necessary to
carry out the purposes of this order. Such actions may include
prohibiting or regulating payments or transfers of any property, or
any transactions involving the transfer of anything of economic
value by the (sic) any United States person to the Government of
the Federal Republic of Yugoslavia (Serbia and Montenegro), any
person in the Federal Republic of Yugoslavia (Serbia and
Montenegro), or any person or entity acting for or on behalf of, or
owned or controlled, directly or indirectly, by any of the
foregoing. The Secretary of the Treasury may redelegate any of
these functions to other officers and agencies of the United States
Government, all agencies of which are hereby directed to take all
appropriate measures within their authority to carry out the
provisions of this order, including suspension or termination of
licenses or other authorizations in effect as of the date of this
order.

Sec. 7. All delegations, rules, regulations, orders, licenses,
and other forms of administrative action made, issued, or otherwise
taken under Executive Order No. 12808 (set out above) and not
revoked administratively shall remain in full force and effect
under this order until amended, modified, or terminated by proper
authority.

Sec. 8. Nothing contained in this order shall create any right or
benefit, substantive or procedural, enforceable by any party
against the United States, its agencies or instrumentalities, its
officers or employees, or any other person.

Sec. 9. (a) This order is effective immediately.

(b) This order shall be transmitted to the Congress and published
in the Federal Register.

George Bush.

***END COPY***

The following schedule of amendments and revocation is from:

http://www.archives.gov/federal_register/executive_orders/1992.html:

***BEGIN***

Executive Order 12810
Blocking property of and prohibiting transactions with the Federal
Republic of Yugoslavia (Serbia and Montenegro)

Signed:
June 5, 1992
Federal Register page and date:
57 FR 24347; June 9, 1992
Amended by (continued):
Notice, May 25, 1993;
Notice, May 25, 1994;
Notice, May 24, 1996;
Notice, May 28, 1997
Revoked in part by:
EO 12831, January 15, 1993
See:
EO 12846, April 25, 1993;
Final Rule of January 3, 1996 (61 FR 629);
Presidential Determination No. 96-7 of December 27, 1995;
Notice of May 25, 2000;
Notice of May 24, 2001
Revoked by: EO 13304, May 28, 2003

***END***

--
banana "The thing I hate about you, Rowntree, is the way you
give Coca-Cola to your scum, and your best teddy-bear to
Oxfam, and expect us to lick your frigid fingers for the
rest of your frigid life." (Mick Travis, 'If...', 1968)

Thanks banana.

I think if "chess is a sport [or sporting event]" then Fischer would
run afoul of this section below.

But is "chess a sport"? OR is it an "art"?

Perhaps the FIDE drug testing decision is a negative precident for
Fischer, as FIDE appears to be trying to make chess a sport (as in
"chess olympics"). But under the First Amend of the US, perhaps chess
is more like a theatre performance? Art (or expression) not sport?

RL

(h) Any transaction in the United States or by a United States
person related to participation in sporting events in the United
States by persons or groups representing the Federal Republic of
Yugoslavia (Serbia and Montenegro);


banana wrote in message ...
It's been said that there's no online copy of Executive Order 12810.
Here's one, taken from

http://www.uhuh.com/laws/donncoll/eo/1992/EO12810.TXT:

[12810 was signed 5 June 1992]

Actually, as I re-read this section, it seems like it does not apply
since Spassky was not representing "Serbia and Montenegro" but only
himself (or at best, France).

So it seems like the US will pin its hopes on saying Fischer was
exporting his "services", and Yugoslavia was profiting from Fischer's
name, as the letter from the Philippines US embassy stated.

Pretty weak case if you ask me.

RL

(raylopez99) wrote in message . com...
Thanks banana.

I think if "chess is a sport [or sporting event]" then Fischer would
run afoul of this section below.

But is "chess a sport"? OR is it an "art"?

Perhaps the FIDE drug testing decision is a negative precident for
Fischer, as FIDE appears to be trying to make chess a sport (as in
"chess olympics"). But under the First Amend of the US, perhaps chess
is more like a theatre performance? Art (or expression) not sport?

RL

(h) Any transaction in the United States or by a United States
person related to participation in sporting events in the United
States by persons or groups representing the Federal Republic of
Yugoslavia (Serbia and Montenegro);


banana wrote in message ...
It's been said that there's no online copy of Executive Order 12810.
Here's one, taken from

http://www.uhuh.com/laws/donncoll/eo/1992/EO12810.TXT:

[12810 was signed 5 June 1992]

In article ,
NoMoreChess writes

So it seems like the US will pin its hopes on saying Fischer was
exporting his "services", and Yugoslavia was profiting from Fischer's
name, as the letter from the Philippines US embassy stated.

Pretty weak case if you ask me.

Nobody asked you. :-)

If playing chess in front of a paying audience, with television rights,
publication rights, etc., amounting to enough money to cover a five million
U.S. dollar prize fund is not "commerce," then what is?

BTW, the wording of the document posted makes it crystal-clear that the USCF
was also in violation, even if they never paid for the "Informants" imported
from Yugoslavia.

When authorities pick and choose who they want to prosecute for an
alleged crime, on the basis of who they like and don't like, that's
called persecution or victimisation.

The same is true when the authorities decide one moment they won't
prosecute someone, and then decide five years later that they will, when

- 1) the 'evidence' concerning the alleged crime remains exactly the
same, but

- 2) the person is on their way from a second country (Japan) to give a
radio interview in a third country (the Philippines)

- 3) the authorities don't look like they're going to get away with
persecuting another individual (Charles Jenkins) who left the US armed
forces in the 1960s, and therefore would like to make some sort of
public relations 'counter-move'

- 4) as Russell Targ rightly points out, they've got some public
relations problems regarding the economy and their invasion of (and
military enmirement in) a foreign country, and in particular, their
claimed reasons for attacking that country have been widely exposed as
false

I think the 'arbitrary' character of the American government's action is
recognised even by those chit-chatters who would like to see Fischer
deported to an American prison. That's why they go on about Al Capone.
Al Capone was a mass murderer and gangster, who ran a large organisation
and rather than being opposed to the American authorities, controlled
them in a large area. There's no similarity in what the two individuals
have done, so that's not it... The comparison people are thinking of is
something else... The usual 'story' for people who don't think for
themselves very much is simply that the authorities couldn't pin any
violent crime on Capone, therefore they got him for tax evasion. (This
is true to some extent, but what's not told to people who only want a
superficial account - although it's certainly not denied - is that
Capone owned the police and local authority in Chicago [not just
Cicero], but he didn't own the bigger-time mafia of the federal IRS).
Why some people are mentioning this is because they'd love to sit in
their armchairs and watch the US authorities dream up whatever excuse
comes to hand for 'getting' Fischer for what he has said about the US
when he's been outside of the US government's jurisdiction - they are
cheerleading the mentality of the account-settling gangster state.

--
banana "The thing I hate about you, Rowntree, is the way you
give Coca-Cola to your scum, and your best teddy-bear to
Oxfam, and expect us to lick your frigid fingers for the
rest of your frigid life." (Mick Travis, 'If...', 1968)

I have read this executive order in detail. I cannot find any
provision or paragraph of this Executive Order which prohibits Bobby
Fischer from playing a chess match in Yugoslavia.

Sam Sloan

On Mon, 19 Jul 2004 11:50:51 +0100, banana
wrote:

It's been said that there's no online copy of Executive Order 12810.
Here's one, taken from

http://www.uhuh.com/laws/donncoll/eo/1992/EO12810.TXT:

[12810 was signed 5 June 1992]

[I've also included a schedule of amendments]

***BEGIN COPY***

EX. ORD. NO. 12810. BLOCKING PROPERTY OF AND PROHIBITING
TRANSACTIONS WITH FEDERAL REPUBLIC OF YUGOSLAVIA (SERBIA AND
MONTENEGRO)

Ex. Ord. No. 12810, June 5, 1992, 57 F.R. 24347, as amended by
Ex. Ord. No. 12831, Sec. 4, Jan. 15, 1993, 58 F.R. 5253, provided:

By the authority vested in me as President by the Constitution
and the laws of the United States of America, including the
International Emergency Economic Powers Act (50 U.S.C. 1701, et
seq.), the National Emergencies Act (50 U.S.C. 1601, et seq.),
section 1114 of the Federal Aviation Act of 1958, as amended (49
U.S.C. App. 1514), section 5 of the United Nations Participation
Act of 1945, as amended (22 U.S.C. 287c), and section 301 of title
3 of the United States Code, in view of United Nations Security
Council Resolution No. 757 of May 30, 1992, and in order to take
additional steps with respect to the actions and policies of the
Federal Republic of Yugoslavia (Serbia and Montenegro) and the
national emergency described and declared in Executive Order No.
12808 (set out above),

I, GEORGE BUSH, President of the United States of America, hereby
order:

Section 1. Except to the extent provided in regulations, orders,
directives, or licenses which may hereafter be issued pursuant to
this order, and notwithstanding the existence of any rights or
obligations conferred or imposed by any international agreement or
any contract entered into or any license or permit granted before
the effective date of this order, all property and interests in
property of the Government of the Federal Republic of Yugoslavia
(Serbia and Montenegro), and property and interests in property
held in the name of the Government of the Federal Republic of
Yugoslavia or of the former Government of the Socialist Federal
Republic of Yugoslavia, that are in the United States, that
hereafter come within the United States, or that are or hereafter
come within the possession or control of United States persons,
including their overseas branches, are blocked.

Sec. 2. The following are prohibited, notwithstanding the
existence of any rights or obligations conferred or imposed by any
international agreement or any contract entered into or any license
or permit granted before the effective date of this order, except
to the extent provided in regulations, orders, directives, or
licenses which may hereafter be issued pursuant to this order:

(a) The importation into the United States of any goods
originating in, or services performed in, the Federal Republic of
Yugoslavia (Serbia and Montenegro), exported from the Federal
Republic of Yugoslavia (Serbia and Montenegro) after May 30, 1992,
or any activity that promotes or is intended to promote such
importation;

(b) The exportation to the Federal Republic of Yugoslavia (Serbia
and Montenegro), or to any entity operated from the Federal
Republic of Yugoslavia (Serbia and Montenegro), or owned or
controlled by the Government of the Federal Republic of Yugoslavia
(Serbia and Montenegro), directly or indirectly, of any goods,
technology (including technical data or other information
controlled for export pursuant to the Export Administration
Regulations, 15 C.F.R. Parts 768, et seq.), or services, either (i)
from the United States, (ii) requiring the issuance of a license by
a Federal agency, or (iii) involving the use of U.S.-registered
vessels or aircraft, or any activity that promotes or is intended
to promote such exportation;

(c) Any dealing by a United States person related to property
originating in the Federal Republic of Yugoslavia (Serbia and
Montenegro) exported from the Federal Republic of Yugoslavia
(Serbia and Montenegro) after May 30, 1992, or property intended
for exportation from the Federal Republic of Yugoslavia (Serbia and
Montenegro) to any country, or exportation to the Federal Republic
of Yugoslavia (Serbia and Montenegro) from any country, or any
activity of any kind that promotes or is intended to promote such
dealing;

(d) Any transaction by a United States person, or involving the
use of U.S.-registered vessels and aircraft, relating to
transportation to or from the Federal Republic of Yugoslavia
(Serbia and Montenegro), the provision of transportation to or from
the United States by any person in the Federal Republic of
Yugoslavia (Serbia and Montenegro) or any vessel or aircraft
registered in the Federal Republic of Yugoslavia (Serbia and
Montenegro), or the sale in the United States by any person holding
authority under the Federal Aviation Act of 1958, as amended (49
U.S.C. 1301, et seq.) (now 49 U.S.C. 40101 et seq.), of any
transportation by air that includes any stop in the Federal
Republic of Yugoslavia (Serbia and Montenegro);

(e) The granting of permission to any aircraft to take off from,
land in, or overfly the United States, if the aircraft, as part of
the same flight or as a continuation of that flight, is destined to
land in or has taken off from the territory of the Federal Republic
of Yugoslavia (Serbia and Montenegro);

(f) The performance by any United States person of any contract,
including a financing contract, in support of an industrial,
commercial, public utility, or governmental project in the Federal
Republic of Yugoslavia (Serbia and Montenegro);

(g) Any commitment or transfer, direct or indirect, of funds, or
other financial or economic resources by any United States person
to or for the benefit of the Government of the Federal Republic of
Yugoslavia (Serbia and Montenegro) or any other person in the
Federal Republic of Yugoslavia (Serbia and Montenegro);

(h) Any transaction in the United States or by a United States
person related to participation in sporting events in the United
States by persons or groups representing the Federal Republic of
Yugoslavia (Serbia and Montenegro);

(i) (Revoked by Ex. Ord. No. 12831, Sec. 4, Jan. 15, 1993, 58
F.R. 5253.)

Sec. 3. Nothing in this order shall apply to (i) the
transshipment through the Federal Republic of Yugoslavia (Serbia
and Montenegro) of commodities and products originating outside the
Federal Republic of Yugoslavia (Serbia and Montenegro) and
temporarily present in the territory of the Federal Republic of
Yugoslavia (Serbia and Montenegro) only for the purpose of such
transshipment, and (ii) activities related to the United Nations
Protection Force (UNPROFOR), the Conference on Yugoslavia, or the
European Community Monitor Mission.

Sec. 4. Any transaction by any United States person that evades
or avoids, or has the purpose of evading or avoiding, or attempts
to violate, any of the prohibitions set forth in this order is
prohibited.

Sec. 5. For the purposes of this order:

(a) The term ''United States person'' means any United States
citizen, permanent resident alien, juridical person organized under
the laws of the United States (including foreign branches), or any
person in the United States, and vessels and aircraft of U.S.
registration;

(b) The term ''the Federal Republic of Yugoslavia (Serbia and
Montenegro)'' means the territory of Serbia and Montenegro;

(c) The term ''the Government of the Federal Republic of
Yugoslavia (Serbia and Montenegro)'' includes the government of the
newly constituted Federal Republic of Yugoslavia, the Government of
Serbia, and the Government of Montenegro, including any
subdivisions thereof or local governments therein, their respective
agencies, instrumentalities and controlled entities, and any
persons acting or purporting to act for or on behalf of any of the
foregoing, including the National Bank of Yugoslavia, the Yugoslav
National Army, and the Yugoslav Chamber of Economy, the National
Bank of Serbia, the Serbian Chamber of Economy, the National Bank
of Montenegro, and the Montenegrin Chamber of Economy.

Sec. 6. The Secretary of the Treasury, in consultation with the
Secretary of State, is hereby authorized to take such actions,
including the promulgation of rules and regulations, and to employ
all powers granted to the President by the International Emergency
Economic Powers Act (50 U.S.C. 1701 et seq.) and the United Nations
Participation Act (22 U.S.C. 287 et seq.), as may be necessary to
carry out the purposes of this order. Such actions may include
prohibiting or regulating payments or transfers of any property, or
any transactions involving the transfer of anything of economic
value by the (sic) any United States person to the Government of
the Federal Republic of Yugoslavia (Serbia and Montenegro), any
person in the Federal Republic of Yugoslavia (Serbia and
Montenegro), or any person or entity acting for or on behalf of, or
owned or controlled, directly or indirectly, by any of the
foregoing. The Secretary of the Treasury may redelegate any of
these functions to other officers and agencies of the United States
Government, all agencies of which are hereby directed to take all
appropriate measures within their authority to carry out the
provisions of this order, including suspension or termination of
licenses or other authorizations in effect as of the date of this
order.

Sec. 7. All delegations, rules, regulations, orders, licenses,
and other forms of administrative action made, issued, or otherwise
taken under Executive Order No. 12808 (set out above) and not
revoked administratively shall remain in full force and effect
under this order until amended, modified, or terminated by proper
authority.

Sec. 8. Nothing contained in this order shall create any right or
benefit, substantive or procedural, enforceable by any party
against the United States, its agencies or instrumentalities, its
officers or employees, or any other person.

Sec. 9. (a) This order is effective immediately.

(b) This order shall be transmitted to the Congress and published
in the Federal Register.

George Bush.

***END COPY***

The following schedule of amendments and revocation is from:

http://www.archives.gov/federal_register/executive_orders/1992.html:

***BEGIN***

Executive Order 12810
Blocking property of and prohibiting transactions with the Federal
Republic of Yugoslavia (Serbia and Montenegro)

Signed:
June 5, 1992
Federal Register page and date:
57 FR 24347; June 9, 1992
Amended by (continued):
Notice, May 25, 1993;
Notice, May 25, 1994;
Notice, May 24, 1996;
Notice, May 28, 1997
Revoked in part by:
EO 12831, January 15, 1993
See:
EO 12846, April 25, 1993;
Final Rule of January 3, 1996 (61 FR 629);
Presidential Determination No. 96-7 of December 27, 1995;
Notice of May 25, 2000;
Notice of May 24, 2001
Revoked by: EO 13304, May 28, 2003

***END***

--
banana "The thing I hate about you, Rowntree, is the way you
give Coca-Cola to your scum, and your best teddy-bear to
Oxfam, and expect us to lick your frigid fingers for the
rest of your frigid life." (Mick Travis, 'If...', 1968)

I wonder if Yasser Seriwan will be arrested next! He traveled to Yugoslavia to
cover the match and wrote a fairly successiful book on it! Trading with the
enemy! Matter of fact there was a horde of on ground press coverage of
Boobie-Spasski II. Arrest Them All!

Oppps, I forgot....the press was exempted for the EO.

Gee, can anyone name anyone else who was arrested for this EO?

In article , Fifiela
writes

I wonder if Yasser Seriwan will be arrested next! He traveled to Yugoslavia to
cover the match and wrote a fairly successiful book on it! Trading with the
enemy! Matter of fact there was a horde of on ground press coverage of
Boobie-Spasski II. Arrest Them All!

Who paid their hotel bills?

Oppps, I forgot....the press was exempted for the EO.

When and by what instrument? They're not exempted in EO 12810 itself:

http://www.uhuh.com/laws/donncoll/eo/1992/EO12810.TXT

If there was an exemption, did it cover reporters of supposedly banned
commercial activity?

Gee, can anyone name anyone else who was arrested for this EO?

--
banana "The thing I hate about you, Rowntree, is the way you
give Coca-Cola to your scum, and your best teddy-bear to
Oxfam, and expect us to lick your frigid fingers for the
rest of your frigid life." (Mick Travis, 'If...', 1968)

"raylopez99" wrote in message
om...

But is "chess a sport"? OR is it an "art"?

It is a sport if you open e-4, an art if you open d-4, and a science if you
open c-4.

Pretty weak case if you ask me.

RL

Well, then if Fischer's case is decided by people biased in his favor, then he
has nothing to worry about. But to any neutral party, it's going to seem like
a pretty strong case. Assuming they bother with him at all, which is still up
in the air.


~~~~~~~~~~
"Do you consider yourself in violation of the United Nations sanctions?
(repeating back a question asked of him) Yes." -- Bobby Fischer, 1992

When authorities pick and choose who they want to prosecute for an
alleged crime, on the basis of who they like and don't like, that's
called persecution or victimisation.

And isn't that what you're DEMANDING that they do, except in his favor?



The same is true when the authorities decide one moment they won't prosecute
someone, and then decide five years later that they will,

Ah ha. So you ARE, in fact, basing your whole case on the idea that the 1997
Passport renewal constituted an implied pardon, even though the arrest warrant
remained on the table. And here I always thought that the president hasd the
right to issue those, not

Since, according to Fischer, Bill Clinton was a secret Jew, and one of those
out to destroy him, does it really make any sense to base Fischer's whole
defense on the idea that these evil Jews who have stopped at nothing to destroy
him... stopped at nothing to destroy him, and now must be held to it?


- 1) the 'evidence' concerning the alleged crime remains exactly the
same, but

- 2) the person is on their way from a second country (Japan) to give a
radio interview in a third country (the Philippines)

- 3) the authorities don't look like they're going to get away with
persecuting another individual (Charles Jenkins) who left the US armed
forces in the 1960s, and therefore would like to make some sort of
public relations 'counter-move'

- 4) as Russell Targ rightly points out, they've got some public
relations problems regarding the economy and their invasion of (and
military enmirement in) a foreign country, and in particular, their
claimed reasons for attacking that country have been widely exposed as
false

You're simply making up the rules as you go along now, and it's quite unfair of
you. You have no right to judge the US government by any standard higher than
you judge Fischer by. And that standard is IS the US Government doing anything
that they can be prosecuted for, or are they not? Clearly, they are not, since
nobody can take them to court, therefore, by your own reasoning, they m ust be
forgiven. Manners, dishonesty, abuse, none of those things matter, as you've
forgiven them yourself in Fischer. The only thing that matters is is this
actionable, or is it not. And clearly, it's not. You've nuked yourself.


I think the 'arbitrary' character of the American government's action is
recognised even by those chit-chatters who would like to see Fischer
deported to an American prison.

And being arbitrary is much more offensive than suppoting genocide, mass
murder, or putting out a call on the public airwaves for a listener to murder
one of your enemies, all things that you've forgiven in Fischer. You're not
even pretending to be fair here.


Why some people are mentioning this is because they'd love to sit in their
armchairs and watch the US authorities dream up whatever excuse comes to hand
for 'getting' Fischer


And even if it's completely fair, it's still bogus, because... uh... uh... it's
arbitrary! That's it.