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Old August 8th 04, 12:39 AM
banana
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Default Fischer has now renounced US citizenship

[When reading media write-ups of this, check how many say that Fischer
'wants' to renounce US citizenship, as if any regime has an
internationally recognised right to accept or refuse renunciations where
refugees are concerned, as opposed to how many tell the truth and report
that he has actually renounced it.

The following is from http://www.freebobbyfischer.net and contains a
copy of the letter in which Fischer renounces his US citizenship.

One thing is for sure in all of this - it is going to be impossible for
US authorities to get Fischer to agree to suffer in silence and keep
quiet about what the US authorities do to him, or try to do to him...

Apologies to those who already know, but Fischer's closing words in this
letter are a reference to words used in Martin Luther King's famous 'I
have a dream' speech in 1963.

-banana note]



***BEGIN ARTICLE***

August 07, 2004

"Enough is enough." Fischer renounces US nationality

At 6:47 PM on Friday, August 6, 2004, supporters submitted Bobby
Fischer's handwritten renunciation of US citizenship to the US Embassy
in Tokyo, Japan. Fischer made the unilateral declaration after US
consular officials refused to comply with his demand that they come to
the Narita Airport Immigration Jailhouse to let him renounce his
citizenship in person, according to standard procedure.

After twelve long years of political persecution by US authorities
culminating in their illegal attempt to revoke his passport in Japan and
kidnap him, Fischer said, "Enough is enough." This is the text of the
letter delivered to the U.S. Embassy on Friday:

August 6, 2004

From: Robert James Fischer at the Narita Airport immigration lockup.
To: "Peter" at the Tokyo U.S. Embassy

Dear "Peter" (You won't tell me what your last name is)

I called you yesterday at the U.S. Embassy in Tokyo at about 10:00 AM
and we discussed some of the various vicious crimes the U.S. and the
Japanese governments have committed against me working in collusion and
in conspiracy since at least July 13, 2004. I say "at least" because
obviously the conspiracy to commit those crimes had to begin some time
before July 13, 2004. I also told you that I wished to renounce my US
citizenship on that very day, August 5, 2004. I asked that either you or
someone else from the U.S. Embassy in Tokyo come over to the Narita
International Airport Detention Center lockup immediately so I could
officially renounce my U.S. citizenship on that very day, yesterday
August 5, 2004.

You made one excuse after another as to why neither you nor anyone else
from the Embassy could come over to do it. Such as: you had no time that
day, and no one else at the Embassy…

August 6, 2004 Page 2

/… had time that day, you didn't know the law and you'd have to study it
first, also you would have to check with Washington, D.C. first. I said

Could you or someone else from the Embassy come over tomorrow (ie.
today) to do it.

You said you didn't know and you couldn't say. Judging by your jittery,
jumpy nervous answers to my demand to officially renounce my U.S.
citizenship I realized I'd hit a nerve. Apparently, my renouncing my
U.S. citizenship does not fit in too conveniently with the U.S.-Japanese
plot to illegally deport me to my "home" country the U.S.A. and
illegally try, convict, imprison, torture and murder me there. At about
9:30 AM this morning I will request my kidnappers here to place a call
with the U.S. Embassy in Tokyo for about 10:00 AM. I will again demand
that either you or someone else from the Embassy come over here so that
I can officially renounce my U.S. citizenship today. I'm quite sure that
in violation of my rights you will not. (If I'm wrong so much the
better.) But assuming that you …

August 6, 2004 Page 3

/… won't I will now do the job myself. Since you are refusing to
cooperate as the U.S. law commands you to I believe this renunciation
has full validity under the law. That is if one can even speak seriously
about "law" in a lawless country like the U.S.A.

Here goes: I am Robert James Fischer. I am a U.S. citizen. I was born on
March 9, 1943 in Chicago. Ill. U.S.A. My U.S. passport no. is or was
Z7792702. It was issued at the U.S. Embassy in Bern, Switzerland. The
issue date is January 24, 1997 and the expiry date is January 23, 2007.
I Robert James Fischer do hereby irrevocably and permanently renounce my
U.S. citizenship and all the supposed rights and privileges of United
States citizenship. I will do my very best to get this letter hand
delivered to you at the Tokyo U.S. Embassy today. Free at last, free at
last, thank God almighty I am free at last.

Sincerely,

Robert James Fischer

***END ARTICLE***

--
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  #2  
Old August 8th 04, 06:30 PM
clarkbarr
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Gee, Bobby where is your next stop gonna be. What country would want such a
rancid bigoted dog turd as you for a citizen?

Hmmmmm what country has antisemitism running wild???? Could it be that
country with a bigoted leader of the "Liberal Democratic party",
say....RUSSIA?????????


On 8/7/04 4:39 PM, in article , "banana"
wrote:

[When reading media write-ups of this, check how many say that Fischer
'wants' to renounce US citizenship, as if any regime has an
internationally recognised right to accept or refuse renunciations where
refugees are concerned, as opposed to how many tell the truth and report
that he has actually renounced it.

The following is from http://www.freebobbyfischer.net and contains a
copy of the letter in which Fischer renounces his US citizenship.

One thing is for sure in all of this - it is going to be impossible for
US authorities to get Fischer to agree to suffer in silence and keep
quiet about what the US authorities do to him, or try to do to him...

Apologies to those who already know, but Fischer's closing words in this
letter are a reference to words used in Martin Luther King's famous 'I
have a dream' speech in 1963.

-banana note]



***BEGIN ARTICLE***

August 07, 2004

"Enough is enough." Fischer renounces US nationality

At 6:47 PM on Friday, August 6, 2004, supporters submitted Bobby
Fischer's handwritten renunciation of US citizenship to the US Embassy
in Tokyo, Japan. Fischer made the unilateral declaration after US
consular officials refused to comply with his demand that they come to
the Narita Airport Immigration Jailhouse to let him renounce his
citizenship in person, according to standard procedure.

After twelve long years of political persecution by US authorities
culminating in their illegal attempt to revoke his passport in Japan and
kidnap him, Fischer said, "Enough is enough." This is the text of the
letter delivered to the U.S. Embassy on Friday:

August 6, 2004

From: Robert James Fischer at the Narita Airport immigration lockup.
To: "Peter" at the Tokyo U.S. Embassy

Dear "Peter" (You won't tell me what your last name is)

I called you yesterday at the U.S. Embassy in Tokyo at about 10:00 AM
and we discussed some of the various vicious crimes the U.S. and the
Japanese governments have committed against me working in collusion and
in conspiracy since at least July 13, 2004. I say "at least" because
obviously the conspiracy to commit those crimes had to begin some time
before July 13, 2004. I also told you that I wished to renounce my US
citizenship on that very day, August 5, 2004. I asked that either you or
someone else from the U.S. Embassy in Tokyo come over to the Narita
International Airport Detention Center lockup immediately so I could
officially renounce my U.S. citizenship on that very day, yesterday
August 5, 2004.

You made one excuse after another as to why neither you nor anyone else
from the Embassy could come over to do it. Such as: you had no time that
day, and no one else at the EmbassyŠ

August 6, 2004 Page 2

/Š had time that day, you didn't know the law and you'd have to study it
first, also you would have to check with Washington, D.C. first. I said

Could you or someone else from the Embassy come over tomorrow (ie.
today) to do it.

You said you didn't know and you couldn't say. Judging by your jittery,
jumpy nervous answers to my demand to officially renounce my U.S.
citizenship I realized I'd hit a nerve. Apparently, my renouncing my
U.S. citizenship does not fit in too conveniently with the U.S.-Japanese
plot to illegally deport me to my "home" country the U.S.A. and
illegally try, convict, imprison, torture and murder me there. At about
9:30 AM this morning I will request my kidnappers here to place a call
with the U.S. Embassy in Tokyo for about 10:00 AM. I will again demand
that either you or someone else from the Embassy come over here so that
I can officially renounce my U.S. citizenship today. I'm quite sure that
in violation of my rights you will not. (If I'm wrong so much the
better.) But assuming that you Š

August 6, 2004 Page 3

/Š won't I will now do the job myself. Since you are refusing to
cooperate as the U.S. law commands you to I believe this renunciation
has full validity under the law. That is if one can even speak seriously
about "law" in a lawless country like the U.S.A.

Here goes: I am Robert James Fischer. I am a U.S. citizen. I was born on
March 9, 1943 in Chicago. Ill. U.S.A. My U.S. passport no. is or was
Z7792702. It was issued at the U.S. Embassy in Bern, Switzerland. The
issue date is January 24, 1997 and the expiry date is January 23, 2007.
I Robert James Fischer do hereby irrevocably and permanently renounce my
U.S. citizenship and all the supposed rights and privileges of United
States citizenship. I will do my very best to get this letter hand
delivered to you at the Tokyo U.S. Embassy today. Free at last, free at
last, thank God almighty I am free at last.

Sincerely,

Robert James Fischer

***END ARTICLE***


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Old August 9th 04, 01:12 AM
Nick
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Default Fischer has now renounced US citizenship

banana wrote in
message ...
(snipped)
Apologies to those who already know, but Fischer's closing words in this
letter are a reference to words used in Martin Luther King's famous
'I have a dream' speech in 1963.

***BEGIN ARTICLE***
August 07, 2004
"Enough is enough." Fischer renounces US nationality
...
Here goes: I am Robert James Fischer. I am a U.S. citizen. I was born
on March 9, 1943 in Chicago. Ill. U.S.A. My U.S. passport no. is or
was Z7792702. It was issued at the U.S. Embassy in Bern, Switzerland.
The issue date is January 24, 1997 and the expiry date is January 23, 2007.
I Robert James Fischer do hereby irrevocably and permanently renounce my
U.S. citizenship and all the supposed rights and privileges of United States
citizenship. I will do my very best to get this letter hand delivered to you
at the Tokyo U.S. Embassy today.
Free at last, free at last, thank God almighty I am free at last.

Sincerely,
Robert James Fischer
***END ARTICLE***


It seems to me that Martin Luther King and Bobby Fischer were using
the same words in quite different contexts.

--Nick
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Old August 9th 04, 02:39 PM
John A Swartz
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Default Fischer has now renounced US citizenship

So "Banana", if you claim that the U.S. has no authority over Fischer
while he's not in the U.S., I submit to you that Bobby's "renunciation"
of his citizenship has no authority since he did it in Japan.

John
  #5  
Old August 9th 04, 03:04 PM
Graeme
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Default Fischer has not renounced US citizenship

So "Banana", if you claim that the U.S. has no authority over Fischer
while he's not in the U.S., I submit to you that Bobby's "renunciation"
of his citizenship has no authority since he did it in Japan.

John



Well, according to Bugsy's article, that's not the case. He does HAVE to do it
in a foreign country, but he has to do it in the presence of a consular
official, and the State Department has the right to refuse it.

  #6  
Old August 11th 04, 05:03 AM
Nick
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Default Fischer has now renounced US citizenship

John A Swartz wrote (to 'Banana'):
So "Banana", if you claim that the U.S. has no authority over Fischer
while he's not in the U.S., I submit to you that Bobby's "renunciation"
of his citizenship has no authority since he did it in Japan.


On the contrary, Bobby Fischer was supposed to be outside the United States
in order to make a formal renunciation of his United States citizenship.
According to the United States's Immigration and Nationality Act of 1952,
the oath of renunciation must be signed in the presence of a United States
diplomatic representative by someone (the intended ex-US citizen) outside
the United States, except possibly during a time of war.

--Nick
 




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