"Miriling" wrote:
I guess that's the loophole in the rules. When you have three players who
are
willing to pay full entry for both the matinee and traditional schedules
and
are in a position to advance to "The Great Merge" in Round 6 on Thursday,
Aug.
12, taking with them their better scores, it is tantamount to re-entry -
since
each player's worse score will be ignored.

I think it's impractical (and unwise) to prohibit re-entries in tournaments
with multiple schedules. Some TD or other will eventually bend the rules
for someone, and there doesn't really seem to be a good reason to prohibit
this widespread practice.

Bill Smythe

Subject: U.S. Open multiple schedules

On 9 August 2004:"Bill wrote in
Message-id:

I think it's impractical (and unwise) to prohibit re-entries in tournaments
with multiple schedules. Some TD or other will eventually bend the rules
for someone, and there doesn't really seem to be a good reason to prohibit
this widespread practice.

Bill Smythe


I agree with you, Bill. As long as multiple schedules exist, there will be
some players - for whom paying an extra entry fee is no problem - who will take
advantage of them.

George Mirijanian

On 9 Aug 2004 23:26:43 GMT, (Mike Nolan) wrote:
I heard something about the top two boards possibly being carried live,
but I don't have any details on when or if that's happening, or where
those games would be available online.

Aren't I a font of knowledge today? :-)

ICC is broadcasting the top two boards.

==Dondo

Born and raised in Arizona. My musical tastes are eclectic. I like rock,
pop, jazz, blues, classical ... I listen to just about everything.

David Bohm

"TheBOBSFan" wrote in message
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"David Bohm" wrote in message
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David, just curious ... are you a Doobie Bros. fan from Wisconsin (ca
1975)?

TBF

"Born and raised in Arizona. My musical tastes are eclectic. I like rock,
pop, jazz, blues, classical ... I listen to just about everything. (David
Bohm)
===========
I like the fiddle / banjo complex of music, the faster the better.

Haas

"Mike Nolan" wrote in message
...
(Miriling) writes:

Does that mean that the tournament had approximately 90 door entrants if
you
factor in the 323 advance entrants (plus one withdrawal) posted on the
USCF
Website?

I don't know the specifics, that's the count Glenn had this morning.

I understand results are going to be posted online at some point, but it
wasn't clear who was going to post them or where.

In the past they've used Al Losoff's site for posting results of the
National Scholastics and other events. Since we don't have the
tournament tracking module for the new USCF programming done yet that's
probably where it'll go for this event, too.

Once programs like WinTD or SwisSys can supply some fields being added
to the TDEXPORT.DBF file for the name, state and rating of players
(needed primarily to help identify those players that don't have USCF
ID's yet), posting round-by-round results online will be possible by
uploading a set of rating report files, something that I will be
demonstrating to the Delegates on Saturday.

I heard something about the top two boards possibly being carried live,
but I don't have any details on when or if that's happening, or where
those games would be available online.

Aren't I a font of knowledge today? :-)
--
Mike Nolan

I am going to try and get the results posted online tomorrow.

We are broadcasting at least the top two boards each night. Today we also
broadcasted the top two boards of the Denker and we'll try to broadcast more
of those rounds.

Jon Haskel

"HAASpittle" wrote in message
...
"There was a small note in today's Sunday chess column in the Arts &
Leisure
section. (Jon Haskel)
===============
Wow.. that ought to bring in about 500,000 new members from Broward county
alone.

Haas

Make that 1,000,000 including Palm Beach County.

Jon Haskel

"Mike Nolan" wrote in message
...
(Miriling) writes:

I heard something about the top two boards possibly being carried live,
but I don't have any details on when or if that's happening, or where
those games would be available online.

If anyone has a URL for the US Open, please post it here. Thx. Phil

Aren't I a font of knowledge today? :-)
--
Mike Nolan

On Mon, 9 Aug 2004 20:27:02 -0500, "Bill Smythe"
wrote:

"Miriling" wrote:
I guess that's the loophole in the rules. When you have three players who
are
willing to pay full entry for both the matinee and traditional schedules
and
are in a position to advance to "The Great Merge" in Round 6 on Thursday,
Aug.
12, taking with them their better scores, it is tantamount to re-entry -
since
each player's worse score will be ignored.

I think it's impractical (and unwise) to prohibit re-entries in tournaments
with multiple schedules. Some TD or other will eventually bend the rules
for someone, and there doesn't really seem to be a good reason to prohibit
this widespread practice.

Bill Smythe

What bothers me about re-entries is the following:

A grandmaster loses in the first round and re-enters.

He loses again in the first round and re-enters again.

The third time around, he wins in the first round and goes on to win
most of his games and the tournament and the big money first prize.

Meanwhile, a lower rated player who did not re-enter who has a much
better over-all score wins nothing.

The above is not a rare situation. Rather, it is what usually happens.

Sam Sloan

I'll get ten responses that this has been tried, but the key to the Open's
success, and the success of adult chess in general, is publicity. A mention
in the arts and leisure section of a newspaper barely qualifies.

A decent PR campaign would promote the Open, for example, as one of the
qualifying tournaments for the US CHESS CHAMPIONSHIP!!! Some of the best
players in the world will be there! A couple of guys who played BOBBY
FISCHER!!! the CRIMINAL!!! WILL BE THERE!!! It's about making something out
of (relatively) nothing. No matter how inconsequential YOU think the Open
may be, a good PR person would do his best to make it look like the
Apocalypse and Nirvana rolled into one.


"Miriling" wrote in message
...
It appears that the U.S. Open in Fort Lauderdale, Fla., which started
Saturday,
Aug. 7, is still not newsworthy enough to be reported in the print media,
specificallyin the Sun-Sentinel newspaper, which serves Fort Lauderdale,
its
county and surrounding counties. The Sunday, Aug. 8 edition of the paper
had
absolutely not a single word about the age-old open championship, as far
as one
could gather from the paper's Web site. I wonder how long it will take
before
the paper "catches on" that there is an important national chess event
being
held in its area. Any bets on what day the paper will start reporting on
the
tournament?

George Mirijanian