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Conflict between Afghan Delegations to the World Chess Federation.

There is a Congress of the World Chess Federation going on right now
in Turin, Italy in the same sporting facility that housed the Winter
Olympic Games a few months ago.

There are two slates running for the presidency. One slate is known as
The Good Guys. The other slate is known as The Bad Guys.

Both the Good Guys and the Bad Guys claim that Afghanistan will vote
for their candidates.

There are two delegations representing Afghanistan. One delegation is
headed by Ismail Jamshedy. He says that he will vote for the Good
Guys.
http://www.rightmove06.org/index.php... z_articles=48

On the other hand, the Bad Guys claim that Afghanistan is pledged to
vote for them. They post a letter on their website from the person
they claim to be the real Afghan delegate pledging his support:
http://www.chessfidelity.com/dat/img/286_na_25.jpg

The letter says in part, "Now that I have met you for the first time".

Obviously, the person who wrote this letter does not know much about
international chess politics, because otherwise he would not be
meeting them for the first time.

The Good Guys slate is led by Bessel Kok of The Netherlands.

The Bad Guys slate is led by Kirsan Ilyumzhinov, who is the Czar of
Kalmykia, a Republic of Russia.

It is possible that the young Afghan man who is shown on the Bad Guys
website posing with the Secretary of the Bad Guys slate does not even
know who are the bad guys and who are the good guys.

What seems evident is that the two Afghan delegates arise from the
split in Afghanistan starting in 1978 when the Communist took over
Afghanistan. The leader of the delegation supporting the Good Guys was
one of the Afghans who fled the country during the Communist takeover.

The Afghan supporting the Bad Guys is probably one those who stayed in
Afghanistan during the period of Soviet domination.

This election is going to be close. A difference of one vote could
easily decide the election. The question of which Afghan is the real
Afghan delegate could decide the fate of international chess for the
next four years.

I believe that it is necessary to call upon Hamid Karzai, the
President of Afghanistan, to decide which Afghan is the real
representative of Afghanistan and whether the vote of Afghanistan will
be cast for the Good Guys headed by a man from Holland or for the Bad
Guys headed by a man from Russia.

Haji Mohammad Ismail Sloan
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I think that Kirsan has a majority already pledged and he is going to
win. So what if Afghanistan has two slates of people? Sam, conflict of
delegations are normally resolved by the FIDE General Assembly. How you
can exclude St Kitts and Nevis, with NOBODY in the seat, is beyond me.

Kirsan has become the UN Security Council and banned an entire nation
from the Olympics by himself.

Marcus Roberts

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On 27 May 2006 07:11:44 -0700, wrote:

I think that Kirsan has a majority already pledged and he is going to
win. So what if Afghanistan has two slates of people? Sam, conflict of
delegations are normally resolved by the FIDE General Assembly.


It is true that the Bad Guys slate headed by Kirsan Ilyumzhinov claims
to have 82 nations pledged to vote for them.

See
http://www.chessfidelity.com/elections.php?txt_id=215

If true, then Kirsan has a solid majority of the 155 countries.

However, the vote is by SECRET BALLOT.

Many of the poorer countries are having their airplane tickets to
attend the FIDE Congress paid for by Kirsan Ilyumzhinov. Naturally,
they have to promise to vote for him to get the free tickets.

However, once they get there Kirsan has no way to guarantee that they
will vote for him and nobody will ever know how they really voted.

I am confident that some of those who are pledged to vote for Kirsan
will actually vote for Bessel Kok when the time comes to vote.

Sam Sloan
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The "Chess Fidelity" team, also known as "The Bad Guys", claimes that
Afghanistan has switched her vote to them from the "Right Move" slate,
also known as "The Good Guys".

See http://www.chessfidelity.com/elections.php?txt_id=215

However, the vote will be by Secret Ballot, so nobody will really know
who they vote for.

Here is what the Bad Guys say:

Another piece of pleasant news was the confirmation of support from
the President of the Afghanistan National Chess Federation Mr. Mahmood
Hanif who will vote in the Election on the 2nd of June.

His letter of support reads: "Dear Mr. Ilyumzhinov! I wish personally
to thank you and your colleagues for having shown concern for our
chess activities in Afghanistan over the past several years. During
our first meeting I have been greatly impressed with the manner and
efficiency in which you listened to and helped to solve the several
problems which our players were faced with. I am confident that chess
developing countries like ours can really rely on your sterling
leadership to further advance the development of chess in the world. I
am most pleased to declare that the Afghan National Chess Federation
shall extend our support and vote for you and your team in the FIDE
Election.".

This letter puts an end to the disputes about the position of
Afghanistan in FIDE President Election. Previously the Right Move team
claimed that Afghanistan will support Bessel Kok and demanded that
Chessfidelity withdraw Afghanistan National Chess Federation from
Kirsan?fs supporters list.

This fact sets everybody thinking of who declares the genuine support
and who declares the mock support.

In the photo: A member of Kirsan's Presidential ticket, FIDE General
Secretary Ignatius Leong and the President of Afghanistan National
Chess Federation Mahmood Hanif in the Olympic Village


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