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Old October 20th 09, 07:53 PM posted to rec.games.chess.politics,rec.games.chess.misc,alt.chess,rec.games.chess.computer
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Default It is impossible to completely eliminate fraud in title applications

There is nothing in place to stop someone from doing again what Tanner
did. However, the MSA makes it noticeable, which is how Tanner got
caught. Back in 1992-1993 when these events actually occurred, it was
impossible to detect this sort of thong.

In short, it is never possible to completely eliminate fraud.

Far more serious things have happened in FIDE. For example, in about
1998 a player from Romania achieved the grandmaster title and was
rated number 16 in the world based entirely on fake events. He also
became President of the Romanian Chess Federation. The President of
the Country of Romania became involved when FIDE tried to strip him of
his titles.

I have never been able to find out what finally happened about that
case.

FIDE has made that slightly more difficult by now requiring the game
scores to be submitted along with any FIDE title application.

I wonder what FIDE will think when they see the score of the recent
cell-phone forfeiture game in Chicago when it is submitted for the IM
title.

Sam Sloan
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Old October 21st 09, 03:33 AM posted to rec.games.chess.politics,rec.games.chess.misc,alt.chess,rec.games.chess.computer
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On Tue, Oct 20, 2009 at 9:55 PM, Randall Hough
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Wasn't that "game" moot, as the prospective applicant ultimately
didn't achieve the necessary score??


You are correct and I had forgotten about that.

Even after the cell phone forfeiture game, the player still had one
more game left to play. It was against a low rated opponent who, it
was thought, was not going to cause any trouble.

Turned out that the low rated player had not gotten the message that
he was supposed to take a dive, and so had drawn the game thereby
ruining the IM norm.

Sam Sloan
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Old October 21st 09, 03:22 PM posted to rec.games.chess.politics,rec.games.chess.misc,alt.chess,rec.games.chess.computer
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On Oct 20, 10:33*pm, samsloan wrote:

You are correct and I had forgotten about that.-- Sam Sloan

Classic Sam, throw some **** on the ceiling and see what sticks. Then
dance around as some of it comes back to earth.

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