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Old May 18th 04, 09:18 PM
Antonio Torrecillas
 
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Default A game to analyze (without computer help?)

It seems that many moves in that game were "natural" for Engines but
....are those moves "natural" for humans?

[Event "Capablanca mem ELITE"]
[Site "?"]
[Date "2004.05.15"]
[Round "10"]
[White "Bruzon, Lazaro"]
[Black "Ramirez, Alejandro"]
[Result "1-0"]
[ECO "D10"]
[WhiteElo "2602"]
[BlackElo "2542"]

1. d4 d5 2. c4 c6 3. Nc3 Nf6 4. e3 a6 5. Qc2 Bg4 6. f3 Bh5 7. Qb3 b5
8.cxd5 cxd5 9. g4 Bg6 10. g5 Nfd7 11. h4 h6 12. h5 hxg5 13. hxg6 Rxh1
14.Qxd5 Qc7 15.gxf7+ Kd8 16. Nh3 Ra7 17. f4 Qc6 18. Nxg5 Qh6 19. Bd2
Qh4+ 20. Ke2 Kc8 21. Nxb5 Rh2+ 22. Kd3 axb5 23. Ne6 Rxd2+ 24. Kxd2 Qf2+
25. Be2 Nb6 26. Rc1+ Nc4+ 27.Rxc4+ bxc4 28. Qc5+ Kb7 29. Nd8+ Ka8
30.Qd5+ Nc6 31. Qxc6+ Kb8 32. Qb6+ Ka8 33. Nc6 1-0

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Old May 18th 04, 11:41 PM
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Default A game to analyze (without computer help?)

"Antonio Torrecillas" wrote in message
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It seems that many moves in that game were "natural" for Engines but
...are those moves "natural" for humans?

[Event "Capablanca mem ELITE"]
[Site "?"]
[Date "2004.05.15"]
[Round "10"]
[White "Bruzon, Lazaro"]
[Black "Ramirez, Alejandro"]
[Result "1-0"]
[ECO "D10"]
[WhiteElo "2602"]
[BlackElo "2542"]

1. d4 d5 2. c4 c6 3. Nc3 Nf6 4. e3 a6 5. Qc2 Bg4 6. f3 Bh5 7. Qb3 b5
8.cxd5 cxd5 9. g4 Bg6 10. g5 Nfd7 11. h4 h6 12. h5 hxg5 13. hxg6 Rxh1
14.Qxd5 Qc7 15.gxf7+ Kd8 16. Nh3 Ra7 17. f4 Qc6 18. Nxg5 Qh6 19. Bd2
Qh4+ 20. Ke2 Kc8 21. Nxb5 Rh2+ 22. Kd3 axb5 23. Ne6 Rxd2+ 24. Kxd2 Qf2+
25. Be2 Nb6 26. Rc1+ Nc4+ 27.Rxc4+ bxc4 28. Qc5+ Kb7 29. Nd8+ Ka8
30.Qd5+ Nc6 31. Qxc6+ Kb8 32. Qb6+ Ka8 33. Nc6 1-0


Wild and crazy game. I didn't find it so much unnatural as very aggressive
by White with Black responding in kind. An amazing balance of attack and
defense by both sides.

Matt



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Old May 18th 04, 11:56 PM
Antonio Torrecillas
 
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Default A game to analyze (without computer help?)

En/na mdamien ha escrit:
"Antonio Torrecillas" wrote in message
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It seems that many moves in that game were "natural" for Engines but
...are those moves "natural" for humans?

[Event "Capablanca mem ELITE"]
[Site "?"]
[Date "2004.05.15"]
[Round "10"]
[White "Bruzon, Lazaro"]
[Black "Ramirez, Alejandro"]
[Result "1-0"]
[ECO "D10"]
[WhiteElo "2602"]
[BlackElo "2542"]

1. d4 d5 2. c4 c6 3. Nc3 Nf6 4. e3 a6 5. Qc2 Bg4 6. f3 Bh5 7. Qb3 b5
8.cxd5 cxd5 9. g4 Bg6 10. g5 Nfd7 11. h4 h6 12. h5 hxg5 13. hxg6 Rxh1
14.Qxd5 Qc7 15.gxf7+ Kd8 16. Nh3 Ra7 17. f4 Qc6 18. Nxg5 Qh6 19. Bd2
Qh4+ 20. Ke2 Kc8 21. Nxb5 Rh2+ 22. Kd3 axb5 23. Ne6 Rxd2+ 24. Kxd2 Qf2+
25. Be2 Nb6 26. Rc1+ Nc4+ 27.Rxc4+ bxc4 28. Qc5+ Kb7 29. Nd8+ Ka8
30.Qd5+ Nc6 31. Qxc6+ Kb8 32. Qb6+ Ka8 33. Nc6 1-0



Wild and crazy game. I didn't find it so much unnatural as very aggressive
by White with Black responding in kind. An amazing balance of attack and
defense by both sides.

Matt


Hello Matt,

Maybe the word "natural" was not exactly the one I wanted to write: I
mean that looking at that game I expected many moves what were not
played like some "take the d5 pawn", some Qxa8, a sooner Rc1, 26.Qc5 or
26.Qd8, some Nxf8, ...

.... many whites moves were a surprise to me!

A true crush!!

AT

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