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Old May 31st 04, 03:56 PM
Avanti
 
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Default Please analyse these 3 novice games

1. e4 c5 2. b4 b6 3. Nf3 a6 4. Bc4 e6 5. bxc5 bxc5 6. O-O Bb7 7. Re1 d5 8.
exd5

Bxd5 9. Na3 Nf6 10. c3 Nbd7 11. Qe2 Bxc4 12. Nxc4 Be7 13. d4 O-O 14. Bf4 Nd5

15. Bd2 Re8 16. Nce5 Nxe5 17. dxe5 Qc7 18. c4 Nb4 19. Bg5 Bxg5 20. Nxg5 h6

21. Nf3 Red8 22. Rad1 Rxd1 23. Rxd1 Rd8 24. a3 Na2 25. Rd3 Nc1 26. Rxd8+
Qxd8

27. Qd2 Qxd2 28. Nxd2 Nd3 {Black offers draw , white would struggle to make

the time control.} 1/2-1/2


1. Nf3 Nc6 2. g3 e6 3. Bg2 d5 4. d4 Nf6 5. Nc3 Bb4 6. Bd2 Bd7 7. O-O O-O 8.
a3

Be7 9. Re1 a6 10. e4 dxe4 11. Nxe4 Nxe4 12. Rxe4 f5 13. Re2 Bf6 14. c3 b5

15. Ne5 Bxe5 16. dxe5 Rb8 17. Bg5 Qe8 18. b4 h6 19. Bf4 Ne7 20. Bc1 Bc6 21.
Qf1

Bxg2 22. Qxg2 Nd5 23. Bb2 f4 24. Qe4 f3 25. Rc2 Qh5 26. Qe1 Rf4 27. Bc1 Rc4

28. Bb2 Nf4 29. Qf1 Ne2+ 30. Kh1 Rd8 31. Rxe2 fxe2 32. Qe1 Qf3+ 33. Kg1 Rd1
{

White resigns} 0-1



1. e4 e6 2. Nf3 Bb4 3. c3 Ba5 4. d4 d5 5. e5 Ne7 6. Bg5 h6 7. Bd2 O-O 8. Bd3

Nd7 9. h4 f6 10. Bxh6 gxh6 11. Ng5 fxg5 12. hxg5 Nf5 13. gxh6 Qg5 14. Rh3
Kf7

15. b4 Bb6 16. h7 Rh8 17. Nd2 Nf8 18. Bxf5 exf5 19. Rg3 Qh6 20. Rh3 Qg6 21.
Qf3

c6 22. O-O-O Ke6 23. Rdh1 Rxh7 24. Rxh7 Nxh7 25. Qf4 Ng5 26. Nf3 Bd8 27. Kb2

Be7 28. Nh4 Qh7 29. Rh2 Kf7 30. g4 Ne6 31. Qxf5+ Qxf5 32. gxf5 Bxh4 33.
fxe6+

Bxe6 34. Rxh4 Rg8 35. Rf4+ Ke7 36. Rf6 Rf8 37. Rxf8 Kxf8 {White loses on
time} 1-0



In game 3 is this drawn or won for white?





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Old May 31st 04, 04:44 PM
Gunny Bunny
 
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You can buy Fritz8 software at www.chessbase.com and analyze to your hearts
content -

"Avanti" wrote in message
...
1. e4 c5 2. b4 b6 3. Nf3 a6 4. Bc4 e6 5. bxc5 bxc5 6. O-O Bb7 7. Re1 d5 8.
exd5

Bxd5 9. Na3 Nf6 10. c3 Nbd7 11. Qe2 Bxc4 12. Nxc4 Be7 13. d4 O-O 14. Bf4

Nd5

15. Bd2 Re8 16. Nce5 Nxe5 17. dxe5 Qc7 18. c4 Nb4 19. Bg5 Bxg5 20. Nxg5 h6

21. Nf3 Red8 22. Rad1 Rxd1 23. Rxd1 Rd8 24. a3 Na2 25. Rd3 Nc1 26. Rxd8+
Qxd8

27. Qd2 Qxd2 28. Nxd2 Nd3 {Black offers draw , white would struggle to

make

the time control.} 1/2-1/2


1. Nf3 Nc6 2. g3 e6 3. Bg2 d5 4. d4 Nf6 5. Nc3 Bb4 6. Bd2 Bd7 7. O-O O-O

8.
a3

Be7 9. Re1 a6 10. e4 dxe4 11. Nxe4 Nxe4 12. Rxe4 f5 13. Re2 Bf6 14. c3 b5

15. Ne5 Bxe5 16. dxe5 Rb8 17. Bg5 Qe8 18. b4 h6 19. Bf4 Ne7 20. Bc1 Bc6

21.
Qf1

Bxg2 22. Qxg2 Nd5 23. Bb2 f4 24. Qe4 f3 25. Rc2 Qh5 26. Qe1 Rf4 27. Bc1

Rc4

28. Bb2 Nf4 29. Qf1 Ne2+ 30. Kh1 Rd8 31. Rxe2 fxe2 32. Qe1 Qf3+ 33. Kg1

Rd1
{

White resigns} 0-1



1. e4 e6 2. Nf3 Bb4 3. c3 Ba5 4. d4 d5 5. e5 Ne7 6. Bg5 h6 7. Bd2 O-O 8.

Bd3

Nd7 9. h4 f6 10. Bxh6 gxh6 11. Ng5 fxg5 12. hxg5 Nf5 13. gxh6 Qg5 14. Rh3
Kf7

15. b4 Bb6 16. h7 Rh8 17. Nd2 Nf8 18. Bxf5 exf5 19. Rg3 Qh6 20. Rh3 Qg6

21.
Qf3

c6 22. O-O-O Ke6 23. Rdh1 Rxh7 24. Rxh7 Nxh7 25. Qf4 Ng5 26. Nf3 Bd8 27.

Kb2

Be7 28. Nh4 Qh7 29. Rh2 Kf7 30. g4 Ne6 31. Qxf5+ Qxf5 32. gxf5 Bxh4 33.
fxe6+

Bxe6 34. Rxh4 Rg8 35. Rf4+ Ke7 36. Rf6 Rf8 37. Rxf8 Kxf8 {White loses on
time} 1-0



In game 3 is this drawn or won for white?







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Old May 31st 04, 05:54 PM
Avanti
 
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"Gunny Bunny" wrote in message
...
You can buy Fritz8 software at www.chessbase.com and analyze to your

hearts
content -


I remember last season,I had an adjournment from a league game, whilst I had
an extra piece for 2 pawns, I could draw the loser's position and win the
computer then the opponent resigned .
I borrowed a book from the library called , how to use computer to improve
your chess and have to agree computer's and the programs including fritz
have blind spots and certainly misses sacrificial positional advantages.


"Avanti" wrote in message
...
1. e4 c5 2. b4 b6 3. Nf3 a6 4. Bc4 e6 5. bxc5 bxc5 6. O-O Bb7 7. Re1 d5

8.
exd5

Bxd5 9. Na3 Nf6 10. c3 Nbd7 11. Qe2 Bxc4 12. Nxc4 Be7 13. d4 O-O 14. Bf4

Nd5

15. Bd2 Re8 16. Nce5 Nxe5 17. dxe5 Qc7 18. c4 Nb4 19. Bg5 Bxg5 20. Nxg5

h6

21. Nf3 Red8 22. Rad1 Rxd1 23. Rxd1 Rd8 24. a3 Na2 25. Rd3 Nc1 26. Rxd8+
Qxd8

27. Qd2 Qxd2 28. Nxd2 Nd3 {Black offers draw , white would struggle to

make

the time control.} 1/2-1/2


1. Nf3 Nc6 2. g3 e6 3. Bg2 d5 4. d4 Nf6 5. Nc3 Bb4 6. Bd2 Bd7 7. O-O O-O

8.
a3

Be7 9. Re1 a6 10. e4 dxe4 11. Nxe4 Nxe4 12. Rxe4 f5 13. Re2 Bf6 14. c3

b5

15. Ne5 Bxe5 16. dxe5 Rb8 17. Bg5 Qe8 18. b4 h6 19. Bf4 Ne7 20. Bc1 Bc6

21.
Qf1

Bxg2 22. Qxg2 Nd5 23. Bb2 f4 24. Qe4 f3 25. Rc2 Qh5 26. Qe1 Rf4 27. Bc1

Rc4

28. Bb2 Nf4 29. Qf1 Ne2+ 30. Kh1 Rd8 31. Rxe2 fxe2 32. Qe1 Qf3+ 33. Kg1

Rd1
{

White resigns} 0-1



1. e4 e6 2. Nf3 Bb4 3. c3 Ba5 4. d4 d5 5. e5 Ne7 6. Bg5 h6 7. Bd2 O-O 8.

Bd3

Nd7 9. h4 f6 10. Bxh6 gxh6 11. Ng5 fxg5 12. hxg5 Nf5 13. gxh6 Qg5 14.

Rh3
Kf7

15. b4 Bb6 16. h7 Rh8 17. Nd2 Nf8 18. Bxf5 exf5 19. Rg3 Qh6 20. Rh3 Qg6

21.
Qf3

c6 22. O-O-O Ke6 23. Rdh1 Rxh7 24. Rxh7 Nxh7 25. Qf4 Ng5 26. Nf3 Bd8 27.

Kb2

Be7 28. Nh4 Qh7 29. Rh2 Kf7 30. g4 Ne6 31. Qxf5+ Qxf5 32. gxf5 Bxh4 33.
fxe6+

Bxe6 34. Rxh4 Rg8 35. Rf4+ Ke7 36. Rf6 Rf8 37. Rxf8 Kxf8 {White loses on
time} 1-0



In game 3 is this drawn or won for white?









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Old May 31st 04, 09:35 PM
Luther Barnum
 
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Default Please analyse these 3 novice games

I believe that ng is rec.games.chess.computer This ng is about analysis and
a novice asked for help. How hard can that be. Grow up or stop playing with
your daddy's computer.


"Gunny Bunny" wrote in message
...
You can buy Fritz8 software at www.chessbase.com and analyze to your

hearts
content -

"Avanti" wrote in message
...
1. e4 c5 2. b4 b6 3. Nf3 a6 4. Bc4 e6 5. bxc5 bxc5 6. O-O Bb7 7. Re1 d5

8.
exd5

Bxd5 9. Na3 Nf6 10. c3 Nbd7 11. Qe2 Bxc4 12. Nxc4 Be7 13. d4 O-O 14. Bf4

Nd5

15. Bd2 Re8 16. Nce5 Nxe5 17. dxe5 Qc7 18. c4 Nb4 19. Bg5 Bxg5 20. Nxg5

h6

21. Nf3 Red8 22. Rad1 Rxd1 23. Rxd1 Rd8 24. a3 Na2 25. Rd3 Nc1 26. Rxd8+
Qxd8

27. Qd2 Qxd2 28. Nxd2 Nd3 {Black offers draw , white would struggle to

make

the time control.} 1/2-1/2


1. Nf3 Nc6 2. g3 e6 3. Bg2 d5 4. d4 Nf6 5. Nc3 Bb4 6. Bd2 Bd7 7. O-O O-O

8.
a3

Be7 9. Re1 a6 10. e4 dxe4 11. Nxe4 Nxe4 12. Rxe4 f5 13. Re2 Bf6 14. c3

b5

15. Ne5 Bxe5 16. dxe5 Rb8 17. Bg5 Qe8 18. b4 h6 19. Bf4 Ne7 20. Bc1 Bc6

21.
Qf1

Bxg2 22. Qxg2 Nd5 23. Bb2 f4 24. Qe4 f3 25. Rc2 Qh5 26. Qe1 Rf4 27. Bc1

Rc4

28. Bb2 Nf4 29. Qf1 Ne2+ 30. Kh1 Rd8 31. Rxe2 fxe2 32. Qe1 Qf3+ 33. Kg1

Rd1
{

White resigns} 0-1



1. e4 e6 2. Nf3 Bb4 3. c3 Ba5 4. d4 d5 5. e5 Ne7 6. Bg5 h6 7. Bd2 O-O 8.

Bd3

Nd7 9. h4 f6 10. Bxh6 gxh6 11. Ng5 fxg5 12. hxg5 Nf5 13. gxh6 Qg5 14.

Rh3
Kf7

15. b4 Bb6 16. h7 Rh8 17. Nd2 Nf8 18. Bxf5 exf5 19. Rg3 Qh6 20. Rh3 Qg6

21.
Qf3

c6 22. O-O-O Ke6 23. Rdh1 Rxh7 24. Rxh7 Nxh7 25. Qf4 Ng5 26. Nf3 Bd8 27.

Kb2

Be7 28. Nh4 Qh7 29. Rh2 Kf7 30. g4 Ne6 31. Qxf5+ Qxf5 32. gxf5 Bxh4 33.
fxe6+

Bxe6 34. Rxh4 Rg8 35. Rf4+ Ke7 36. Rf6 Rf8 37. Rxf8 Kxf8 {White loses on
time} 1-0



In game 3 is this drawn or won for white?










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Old May 31st 04, 09:49 PM
Gunny Bunny
 
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"Avanti" wrote in message
...

"Gunny Bunny" wrote in message
...
You can buy Fritz8 software at www.chessbase.com and analyze to your

hearts
content -


I remember last season,I had an adjournment from a league game, whilst I

had
an extra piece for 2 pawns, I could draw the loser's position and win the
computer then the opponent resigned .
I borrowed a book from the library called , how to use computer to improve
your chess and have to agree computer's and the programs including fritz
have blind spots and certainly misses sacrificial positional advantages.


They do not play perfect chess, neither does a GM, who you would pay many
dollars per hour for analysis, computers do it for free and probably better
in most cases -

There is a new book out by Robin Smith about Computer Chess Analysis it may
be of interest to u



"Avanti" wrote in message
...
1. e4 c5 2. b4 b6 3. Nf3 a6 4. Bc4 e6 5. bxc5 bxc5 6. O-O Bb7 7. Re1

d5
8.
exd5

Bxd5 9. Na3 Nf6 10. c3 Nbd7 11. Qe2 Bxc4 12. Nxc4 Be7 13. d4 O-O 14.

Bf4
Nd5

15. Bd2 Re8 16. Nce5 Nxe5 17. dxe5 Qc7 18. c4 Nb4 19. Bg5 Bxg5 20.

Nxg5
h6

21. Nf3 Red8 22. Rad1 Rxd1 23. Rxd1 Rd8 24. a3 Na2 25. Rd3 Nc1 26.

Rxd8+
Qxd8

27. Qd2 Qxd2 28. Nxd2 Nd3 {Black offers draw , white would struggle to

make

the time control.} 1/2-1/2


1. Nf3 Nc6 2. g3 e6 3. Bg2 d5 4. d4 Nf6 5. Nc3 Bb4 6. Bd2 Bd7 7. O-O

O-O
8.
a3

Be7 9. Re1 a6 10. e4 dxe4 11. Nxe4 Nxe4 12. Rxe4 f5 13. Re2 Bf6 14. c3

b5

15. Ne5 Bxe5 16. dxe5 Rb8 17. Bg5 Qe8 18. b4 h6 19. Bf4 Ne7 20. Bc1

Bc6
21.
Qf1

Bxg2 22. Qxg2 Nd5 23. Bb2 f4 24. Qe4 f3 25. Rc2 Qh5 26. Qe1 Rf4 27.

Bc1
Rc4

28. Bb2 Nf4 29. Qf1 Ne2+ 30. Kh1 Rd8 31. Rxe2 fxe2 32. Qe1 Qf3+ 33.

Kg1
Rd1
{

White resigns} 0-1



1. e4 e6 2. Nf3 Bb4 3. c3 Ba5 4. d4 d5 5. e5 Ne7 6. Bg5 h6 7. Bd2 O-O

8.
Bd3

Nd7 9. h4 f6 10. Bxh6 gxh6 11. Ng5 fxg5 12. hxg5 Nf5 13. gxh6 Qg5 14.

Rh3
Kf7

15. b4 Bb6 16. h7 Rh8 17. Nd2 Nf8 18. Bxf5 exf5 19. Rg3 Qh6 20. Rh3

Qg6
21.
Qf3

c6 22. O-O-O Ke6 23. Rdh1 Rxh7 24. Rxh7 Nxh7 25. Qf4 Ng5 26. Nf3 Bd8

27.
Kb2

Be7 28. Nh4 Qh7 29. Rh2 Kf7 30. g4 Ne6 31. Qxf5+ Qxf5 32. gxf5 Bxh4

33.
fxe6+

Bxe6 34. Rxh4 Rg8 35. Rf4+ Ke7 36. Rf6 Rf8 37. Rxf8 Kxf8 {White loses

on
time} 1-0



In game 3 is this drawn or won for white?













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Old May 31st 04, 09:50 PM
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"Luther Barnum" wrote in message
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I believe that ng is rec.games.chess.computer This ng is about analysis

and
a novice asked for help. How hard can that be. Grow up or stop playing

with
your daddy's computer.


Luther, your a ****-head.

He can ask for analysis if he likes and u can respond with analysis if you
like.

I chose to offer the suggestion of a computer chess program to analyze ALL
his games in the future, this is a much better option than posting here !

"Gunny Bunny" wrote in message
...
You can buy Fritz8 software at www.chessbase.com and analyze to your

hearts
content -

"Avanti" wrote in message
...
1. e4 c5 2. b4 b6 3. Nf3 a6 4. Bc4 e6 5. bxc5 bxc5 6. O-O Bb7 7. Re1

d5
8.
exd5

Bxd5 9. Na3 Nf6 10. c3 Nbd7 11. Qe2 Bxc4 12. Nxc4 Be7 13. d4 O-O 14.

Bf4
Nd5

15. Bd2 Re8 16. Nce5 Nxe5 17. dxe5 Qc7 18. c4 Nb4 19. Bg5 Bxg5 20.

Nxg5
h6

21. Nf3 Red8 22. Rad1 Rxd1 23. Rxd1 Rd8 24. a3 Na2 25. Rd3 Nc1 26.

Rxd8+
Qxd8

27. Qd2 Qxd2 28. Nxd2 Nd3 {Black offers draw , white would struggle to

make

the time control.} 1/2-1/2


1. Nf3 Nc6 2. g3 e6 3. Bg2 d5 4. d4 Nf6 5. Nc3 Bb4 6. Bd2 Bd7 7. O-O

O-O
8.
a3

Be7 9. Re1 a6 10. e4 dxe4 11. Nxe4 Nxe4 12. Rxe4 f5 13. Re2 Bf6 14. c3

b5

15. Ne5 Bxe5 16. dxe5 Rb8 17. Bg5 Qe8 18. b4 h6 19. Bf4 Ne7 20. Bc1

Bc6
21.
Qf1

Bxg2 22. Qxg2 Nd5 23. Bb2 f4 24. Qe4 f3 25. Rc2 Qh5 26. Qe1 Rf4 27.

Bc1
Rc4

28. Bb2 Nf4 29. Qf1 Ne2+ 30. Kh1 Rd8 31. Rxe2 fxe2 32. Qe1 Qf3+ 33.

Kg1
Rd1
{

White resigns} 0-1



1. e4 e6 2. Nf3 Bb4 3. c3 Ba5 4. d4 d5 5. e5 Ne7 6. Bg5 h6 7. Bd2 O-O

8.
Bd3

Nd7 9. h4 f6 10. Bxh6 gxh6 11. Ng5 fxg5 12. hxg5 Nf5 13. gxh6 Qg5 14.

Rh3
Kf7

15. b4 Bb6 16. h7 Rh8 17. Nd2 Nf8 18. Bxf5 exf5 19. Rg3 Qh6 20. Rh3

Qg6
21.
Qf3

c6 22. O-O-O Ke6 23. Rdh1 Rxh7 24. Rxh7 Nxh7 25. Qf4 Ng5 26. Nf3 Bd8

27.
Kb2

Be7 28. Nh4 Qh7 29. Rh2 Kf7 30. g4 Ne6 31. Qxf5+ Qxf5 32. gxf5 Bxh4

33.
fxe6+

Bxe6 34. Rxh4 Rg8 35. Rf4+ Ke7 36. Rf6 Rf8 37. Rxf8 Kxf8 {White loses

on
time} 1-0



In game 3 is this drawn or won for white?












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Old May 31st 04, 10:04 PM
Chess Player
 
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I will analyze them for you.
Can you give me some information on the players and time controls?
Thanks


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Old May 31st 04, 11:16 PM
Avanti
 
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"Chess Player" wrote in message
y.com...
I will analyze them for you.
Can you give me some information on the players and time controls?
Thanks


the time control was 42moves in 105mins then 30 mins, I never post the names
to protect the innocent,
I played white in games 1 and 3.


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Old May 31st 04, 11:18 PM
Avanti
 
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"Gunny Bunny" wrote in message
.. .

"Luther Barnum" wrote in message
...
I believe that ng is rec.games.chess.computer This ng is about analysis

and
a novice asked for help. How hard can that be. Grow up or stop playing

with
your daddy's computer.


Luther, your a ****-head.

He can ask for analysis if he likes and u can respond with analysis if you
like.

I chose to offer the suggestion of a computer chess program to analyze ALL
his games in the future, this is a much better option than posting here !


I disagree that using a PC for analysis is better than posting here.


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Old June 1st 04, 12:25 AM
David Richerby
 
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Gunny Bunny wrote:
"Luther Barnum" wrote:
I believe that ng is rec.games.chess.computer This ng is about analysis
and a novice asked for help. How hard can that be. Grow up or stop
playing with your daddy's computer.


Luther, your a ****-head.

He can ask for analysis if he likes and u can respond with analysis if
you like.


Or we could just insult each other -- everybody gets better at chess that
way! It may not have been intentional but your original post read to me
(and evidently Luther, too) as, `Don't bother us with your footling
questions -- ask a computer,' which rather goes against the purpose of the
group.

Computer analysis is all very well but a stream of alternative moves often
isn't much use. The computer can't explain *why* its improvements are
improvements because all it can see is that its evaluation function
started returning better numbers. Humans, on the other hand, can make
useful comments like, `You're neglecting development', `Your opponent is
trying to open files against your king; you must stop him' and so on.


Dave.

--
David Richerby Aquatic Aluminium Sushi (TM): it's
www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~davidr/ like a raw fish that's really light
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