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Ivan July 1st 03 12:45 AM

Secret Soviet Training Methods
 
I went to a scholastic tournament last weekend and noticed a man
passing out flyers for chess lessons. I took a flyer and saw that he
was advertising chess lessons and that he was knowledgable with the
secret Soviet Training methods and uses them with his teaching.
After reading this statement, I feel really sorry for all the parents
and kids that believed it because I don't think that such an idea
exists. In my opinion, these Soviet chess players were talented to
begin with and they just used hardwork to get to where they are today.

[email protected] July 1st 03 01:30 AM

Secret Soviet Training Methods
 
Secret Soviet traininhg methods, I agree are a joke. I can just see a
political reliable standing behind the little kid with a gun or
truncheon to dispose of the child that doesn't meet expectations.
Kinda like the study this and play that or die school of chess. Out of
a country of 300,000,000 the USSR could only come up with 50 or so
International players. I think the Netherlands or Great Britian or
Iceland is more successful at creating world class players per capita.

Tryfon Gavriel July 1st 03 02:26 AM

Secret Soviet Training Methods
 
Hi Guys

You may want to read about the 1970 USSR vs rest of world match to have some
insights into the former Soviet Union (USSR) chess domination

http://www.gtryfon.demon.co.uk/bcc/d...estofworld.htm

Some interesting Soviet chess rough statistics :-

1922 1,000 registered chessplayers
1924 The Russian state took over control of chess with the formation of the
All-Union Chess Section of the Supreme Council for Physical Culture
1929 150,000 players
1934 500,000 players
1966 3,540,000 players
1970 USSR vs Rest of World match
1990's over 5 million

More accurate indicator is FIDE rated player statistics, e.g.
http://www.chessworld.net/chessclubs....asp?Rating=RU
S&Country=RUS

With Chess being a high national game status , the importance of training
methods, funding, government backing, etc, become higher priority.
I think the "secret" is chess being of national game status. The rest
follow. Training methods became more formal, and led to the creation of
specialist chess schools.

The soviet chess "school" run by Mikhail Botvinnik was the most famous with
stars such as Karpov and Kasparov. I guess that each player of the school
was being continually assessed for their particular strengths and
weaknesses. I guess it was run like a correspondence style coaching
programme but with meeting up face to face on occasion. If anyone has any
more depth to how the Mikhail Botvinnik school worked, I would be interested
to know. Perhaps there should be a book called "Mikhail Botvinnik Chess
School training methods" to let the secrets out :-)

Best wishes
Tryfon Gavriel
Webmaster
www.letsplaychess.com



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Secret Soviet traininhg methods, I agree are a joke. I can just see a
political reliable standing behind the little kid with a gun or
truncheon to dispose of the child that doesn't meet expectations.
Kinda like the study this and play that or die school of chess. Out of
a country of 300,000,000 the USSR could only come up with 50 or so
International players. I think the Netherlands or Great Britian or
Iceland is more successful at creating world class players per capita.




StanB July 1st 03 04:06 AM

Secret Soviet Training Methods
 

"Ivan" wrote in message
m...

I went to a scholastic tournament last weekend and noticed a man
passing out flyers for chess lessons. I took a flyer and saw that he
was advertising chess lessons and that he was knowledgable with the
secret Soviet Training methods and uses them with his teaching.
After reading this statement, I feel really sorry for all the parents
and kids that believed it because I don't think that such an idea
exists. In my opinion, these Soviet chess players were talented to
begin with and they just used hardwork to get to where they are today.


I believe it and Kmelnitsky learned under it.

StanB



michael adams July 1st 03 07:44 AM

Secret Soviet Training Methods
 
Ivan wrote:

I went to a scholastic tournament last weekend and noticed a man
passing out flyers for chess lessons. I took a flyer and saw that he
was advertising chess lessons and that he was knowledgable with the
secret Soviet Training methods and uses them with his teaching.
After reading this statement, I feel really sorry for all the parents
and kids that believed it because I don't think that such an idea
exists. In my opinion, these Soviet chess players were talented to
begin with and they just used hardwork to get to where they are today.


Dear Ivan,

I agree. Secret Soviet Yoghurt more like it..


FRAZ July 1st 03 09:08 AM

Secret Soviet Training Methods
 
Russian Secret Training is a very hard work training ( Purpose training
focused in one field on a regular basis)

I suggest you to read :

Think like a GM ( Alexander Kotov)
School of Chess Excellence 1,2,3 (Mark Dvoretsky)
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Bruce July 1st 03 09:15 AM

Secret Soviet Training Methods
 

"michael adams" wrote in message
...
Ivan wrote:

I went to a scholastic tournament last weekend and noticed a man
passing out flyers for chess lessons. I took a flyer and saw that he
was advertising chess lessons and that he was knowledgable with the
secret Soviet Training methods and uses them with his teaching.
After reading this statement, I feel really sorry for all the parents
and kids that believed it because I don't think that such an idea
exists. In my opinion, these Soviet chess players were talented to
begin with and they just used hardwork to get to where they are today.


Dear Ivan,

I agree. Secret Soviet Yoghurt more like it..


Mikey,

R U referring, by any chance, to the famous "Oxygen Cocktail"?



Roman M. Parparov July 1st 03 10:29 AM

Secret Soviet Training Methods
 
In rec.games.chess.analysis FRAZ wrote:
Russian Secret Training is a very hard work training ( Purpose training
focused in one field on a regular basis)

I suggest you to read :

Think like a GM ( Alexander Kotov)
School of Chess Excellence 1,2,3 (Mark Dvoretsky)


You're replying to my post?!

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Email: http://www.nasa.proj.ac.il
Phone/Fax: +972-(0)3-6405205 (work), +972-(0)64-669-189 (home)
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King Leopold July 1st 03 05:31 PM

Secret Soviet Training Methods
 
Its sounds as if the person handing out the flyers and learned the secret to
US marketing strategy.

"Ivan" wrote in message
m...
I went to a scholastic tournament last weekend and noticed a man
passing out flyers for chess lessons. I took a flyer and saw that he
was advertising chess lessons and that he was knowledgable with the
secret Soviet Training methods and uses them with his teaching.
After reading this statement, I feel really sorry for all the parents
and kids that believed it because I don't think that such an idea
exists. In my opinion, these Soviet chess players were talented to
begin with and they just used hardwork to get to where they are today.




marc margolies July 2nd 03 06:03 AM

Secret Soviet Training Methods
 
Sir,
I am quite familiar with 'secret soviet training methods.'
In fact, I could tell you all about them but then I would have to kill you!
That is, assuming, you are not already dead. You are certainly on Comrade
Andropov's list by now. That is assuming, Comrade Andropov is not already
dead.
best regards-- you know who we are!
"Ivan" wrote in message
m...
I went to a scholastic tournament last weekend and noticed a man
passing out flyers for chess lessons. I took a flyer and saw that he
was advertising chess lessons and that he was knowledgable with the
secret Soviet Training methods and uses them with his teaching.
After reading this statement, I feel really sorry for all the parents
and kids that believed it because I don't think that such an idea
exists. In my opinion, these Soviet chess players were talented to
begin with and they just used hardwork to get to where they are today.





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