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how boring

this is like a botvinnik-smyslov match

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1. d4 is good enough,.. as good as 1. e4.

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LA BOURDONNAIS VS. MCDONNELL, 85 GAMES, 1834

The First Immortal Game -- Yes, Virginia, It Does Exist

"A brand new book called The Chess Kings by Calvin Olson culminates 10
years of painstaking research about history, politics and mythmaking.
It reminds us that except for #78 all games after #50 (called The
Immortal 50th) began with 1 e4. The author points out: "It is from
these games that we get the first immortal won by McDonnell with an
inspired queen sacrifice. It is to William Greenwood Walker that we owe
the recording of all these games." I also learned the final moves of
The Immortal Game (Anderssen vs. Kieseritzky, London 1851) were used in
the sci-fi film Blade Runner." -- Evans On Chess

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1. d4 is good enough,.. as good as 1. e4.

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En/na Zero ha escrit:
how boring

this is like a botvinnik-smyslov match


After winning Kramnik first two games Kramnik as white want no risk with
1.d4 and Topalov want to avoid drawinsh lines as Petrov or Berlin.

If it were Topalov who have won two first games maybe Kramnik would
wanted to risk as white with 1.e4 c5 and Topalov was happy as white with
1.e4 e5.

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Zero wrote:
how boring

this is like a botvinnik-smyslov match


No matter how many brilliancies are played with d4, no matter how many
players start with e4, and then shuffle wood for 70 moves hoping for a
blunder, some people are going to insist that 1. d4 is inherently more
dull. It's almost pointless to argue.

Consider this, though. Out of 9 1.d4 games so far in this match (not
counting the forfeit with no moves at all) five games have been
decisive. That's an unusually high percentage for this type of
contest. Yes, there have been a lot of blunders, but these have
occurred in difficult positions, with both players trying hard.
There's no reason to believe that this would have been different with
the selection of 1. e4 openings.



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1. d4 is good enough,.. as good as 1. e4.


It's high time for Fischer chess.

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Zero wrote:
how boring

this is like a botvinnik-smyslov match



I replayed the first several games, and it seems to me
a better comparison might be the Alekhine--Euwe match,
with its many Slav Defenses which led to dull draws.

Euwe: "Alex simply cannot beat the Slav."

Spectator: "Of course he can. Alekhine can beat anything!"

Euwe: "Oh yeah? Just watch this -- I will lull him to sleep."




Even so, the main thing I noticed in these games was
not the repetitive openings, but the way in which the two
players strongly diifer in their approaches. IMO, Kramnik
is too chicken, eagerly settling for repetitions of position
when he has an edge, while Topolov is far too reckless,
trying to win when he ought to be adopting the Kramnik
strategy of not-losing. IMO, Kramnik's "chicken" strategy
will most likely prevail, yet not earn him many new fans.

At the lower levels, when one player is this eager to allow
a draw though ahead on the board, and the other player is
this desperate to win even if he stands worse, the explanation
can usually be found in a large discrepency in ratings, along
with their inherent "expectations".

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Larry Parr wrote (8 Oct 2006 23:08:40 -0700):

7 ...
7 "... I also learned the final moves of The Immortal Game
7 (Anderssen vs. Kieseritzky, London 1851) were used in
7 the sci-fi film Blade Runner." -- Evans On Chess
7 ...

_
This was noticed long ago. For example:
_
"In the movie Bladerunner there is a scene where
Drexell and Sebastion play chess and Sebastion
wins by following the 'Immortal Game'. ..." - Adrian
Corbould (11 Nov 1994 12:47:40 GMT)

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Zero wrote:
how boring

this is like a botvinnik-smyslov match


Yes. I'd love to see 1 e4 e5 2 f4 !!

Only spassky had the guts to play it at top level and play he did. The
one against Bronstein. Ignoring the loss of rook by a pawn with check,
he sacrificed the knight instead.

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