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Old November 25th 06, 02:59 AM posted to rec.games.chess.analysis,rec.games.chess.computer,rec.games.chess.misc,rec.games.chess.politics
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I just wrote an article on goal setting specifically geared towards chess.
If you have so time give it a read and let me know what you think.

I'm also starting a training regiment that I am going to record on my site.
Any input would be greatly appreciated.

http://growwithchess.com/2006/11/ach...s-pursuit.html

http://growwithchess.com/chess_train...ning_main.html

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John Evans

Why can't black people play in the WORLD CHESS CHAMPIONSHIP? What race
are you? Are you a white murderer (a Kirsan Ilyunzhhoiv thug) or are
you trying to strip children naked in front of a FIDE official, or a
Kirsan supporter trying to promote hate?

Why can't St Kitts and Nevis play in the World Chess Championship?

What goal is there when you WHITE RACISTS keep black peopel from
playing chess?

Marcus Roberts
President
St Kitts and Nevis national chess association
Permanent Delegate of St Kitts and Nevis to FIDE

John Evans wrote:
I just wrote an article on goal setting specifically geared towards chess.
If you have so time give it a read and let me know what you think.

I'm also starting a training regiment that I am going to record on my site.
Any input would be greatly appreciated.

http://growwithchess.com/2006/11/ach...s-pursuit.html

http://growwithchess.com/chess_train...ning_main.html

--
Thanks,
John
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Cut back on the coffee.

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John Evans

Why can't black people play in the WORLD CHESS CHAMPIONSHIP? What race
are you? Are you a white murderer (a Kirsan Ilyunzhhoiv thug) or are
you trying to strip children naked in front of a FIDE official, or a
Kirsan supporter trying to promote hate?

Why can't St Kitts and Nevis play in the World Chess Championship?

What goal is there when you WHITE RACISTS keep black peopel from
playing chess?

Marcus Roberts
President
St Kitts and Nevis national chess association
Permanent Delegate of St Kitts and Nevis to FIDE

John Evans wrote:
I just wrote an article on goal setting specifically geared towards
chess.
If you have so time give it a read and let me know what you think.

I'm also starting a training regiment that I am going to record on my
site.
Any input would be greatly appreciated.

http://growwithchess.com/2006/11/ach...s-pursuit.html

http://growwithchess.com/chess_train...ning_main.html

--
Thanks,
John
http://growwithchess.com/




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En/na John Evans ha escrit:

I just wrote an article on goal setting specifically geared towards chess.
If you have so time give it a read and let me know what you think.

I'm also starting a training regiment that I am going to record on my site.
Any input would be greatly appreciated.

http://growwithchess.com/2006/11/ach...s-pursuit.html

http://growwithchess.com/chess_train...ning_main.html


You are interested in improving your chess skills.

From the games exposed I think you do not need a coach for now.
http://growwithchess.com/chess_viewe...ning_games.pgn

In my opinion you can improve simply studying some basic as tactics and
general ideas about development and analyzing your games (for example
posting your anaysis here in RGCA). A good idea is to enter a chessclub
and play OTB. I would like to add that, there are many books you can
read and learn from them.

A coach would be more useful later, when you achieve mastery about some
basic concepts.

I think that an acurate improving plan can help us to be a little
stronger players but I think too that serious games versus appropiate
adversaires can help a bit more.

just my opinion.
Antonio

Ps: I have seen people trying to improve many years devoting many many
hours and only achieving certain level (sometimes 2100, sometimes 2200,
sometimes 2300, ...). For example Ray is not better than a 1900 no
matter He is playing chess during the last 30 years and devoted each day
many hours to give HIS "advice" to chessplayers here in RGCA.

Of course a low level is not a problem. It's like thinking any of us can
be a talented musician or mathematician only working hard, ... and we
all are different!
The important fact is to enjoy playing and do our best.

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John Evans wrote:
I just wrote an article on goal setting specifically geared towards chess.
If you have so time give it a read and let me know what you think.

I'm also starting a training regiment that I am going to record on my site.
Any input would be greatly appreciated.

http://growwithchess.com/2006/11/ach...s-pursuit.html

http://growwithchess.com/chess_train...ning_main.html

--
Thanks,
John
http://growwithchess.com/


Your "Achieving Goals: A Chess Pursuit" should be renamed "Why I Fail"
as you really do not say much about how to achieve your chess goals,
but give reasons why you have failed in the past. I did not get much
advice on 'how' to achieve my goals much.

But, even with that in mind, I think you need to read the book "Think
and Grow Rich" and you will gain the confidence and motivational
commitment you seek. It seems your problem is accountability mostly;
but accountability to who? You seem to believe that accountability to
'other people' motivates you more than you failing yourself. That in
itself is a prime de-motivator, and the 'I dont care if I fail'
attitude that comes with it is admitting defeat before you begin. That
is probably the main issue you have with your training goals. You don't
really care what YOU think - you care more about what OTHERS think
about your progress. But chess is a game played by one person each side
and others have nothing to gain from your improvement, only you do.

Regards,
http://chess-training.blogspot.com



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I appreciate your input, but I disagree with your assessment of the post. I
did list why I failed which is the first step to fixing any problem, but
as a fellow chess player I'm sure you agree with doing this first. Also, I
thought for every problem I mentioned I gave a solution that has worked for
me. As for the accountability step, I believe you should look deep into
yourself and find whatever you have too in order to reach your goals. In
some cases that's the help of others. You grab motivation from wherever you
can get it.

In any event, I honestly appreciate that fact that you took the time to read
it and write me such a detailed response. I will look at checking the book
you suggested out from the library to see if I like it.

My goal is to improve and with your help and others here I know I will do
it.

Oh, I enjoy reading your post on your site that's what motivated me to post
my training schedule. Keep up the good work!

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John Evans wrote:
I just wrote an article on goal setting specifically geared towards
chess.
If you have so time give it a read and let me know what you think.

I'm also starting a training regiment that I am going to record on my
site.
Any input would be greatly appreciated.

http://growwithchess.com/2006/11/ach...s-pursuit.html

http://growwithchess.com/chess_train...ning_main.html

--
Thanks,
John
http://growwithchess.com/


Your "Achieving Goals: A Chess Pursuit" should be renamed "Why I Fail"
as you really do not say much about how to achieve your chess goals,
but give reasons why you have failed in the past. I did not get much
advice on 'how' to achieve my goals much.

But, even with that in mind, I think you need to read the book "Think
and Grow Rich" and you will gain the confidence and motivational
commitment you seek. It seems your problem is accountability mostly;
but accountability to who? You seem to believe that accountability to
'other people' motivates you more than you failing yourself. That in
itself is a prime de-motivator, and the 'I dont care if I fail'
attitude that comes with it is admitting defeat before you begin. That
is probably the main issue you have with your training goals. You don't
really care what YOU think - you care more about what OTHERS think
about your progress. But chess is a game played by one person each side
and others have nothing to gain from your improvement, only you do.

Regards,
http://chess-training.blogspot.com



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John Evans ha escrito:

I just wrote an article on goal setting specifically geared towards chess.
If you have so time give it a read and let me know what you think.

I'm also starting a training regiment that I am going to record on my site.
Any input would be greatly appreciated.

http://growwithchess.com/2006/11/ach...s-pursuit.html
http://growwithchess.com/chess_train...ning_main.html

--
Thanks,
John


Hello,

I think you need to do some more things to analyze a game:

1) To add personal feelings, personal evaluations, your main idea. I
think it's important to verbalize.

You only posted a single personal note: 5. h3 a6 {i'm worried about
Na4} (5... Nf6 6. Na4)
And that comment is importnat because I can answer I think 5...a6 is a
waste of time 5...Nf6 is better and black has nothing to fear after
6.Na4 because He has Nxe4 winning a pawn.

Adding persnal view you help us to helping you: for example it's very
different to write "I saw 20....Rf4 21.Nxh5 and I allow it because I
though that to open the g line was good for black" and "I though
20...Rf4 would win white queen but I failed to see 21.Nxh5!"

2) Long lines without evaluations or annotations are nonsense

For example you have written: "(43... e4 44. f3 exf3 45. Kxf3 Ke6 46.
Ke4 Kf6 47. f5 Ke7 48. Ke5 Kf7 49.f6 Ke8 50. Ke6 Kf8 51. f7 Kg7 52.
Ke7" without any verbal annotation.

I mean I prefer something like:
Does not change the result 43... e4 44. f3 exf3 45. Kxf3 Ke6 46. Ke4
Kf6 47. f5 winning white easily advancing his "f " pawn and eating for
free the black "h" pawns.

3) There are no conclusions.

If I had studied that game I would try to find where I did wrong
suggesting alternatives.

In that case I think 37...h4?? to be the losing mistake no matter I
think it has some plan (like prepare Kf5-g5-f4 ... unfortunately that
can be avoided by white playing Ke3 and f4!).
I suggest you to study 37...d5 and the line 22...h4! 23.Qh2 Qc6! 24.Rc3
Qb6!

Antonio Torrecillas

------------ Copied form your site: -------------------

My first real analysis
Saturday, November 25, 2006

I spent about two hours looking at this game I lost and after going
over it I think I should have won it. This may sound strange, but this
maybe the first game I have ever analyzed on my own. I put the game in
fritz, but I did all the analysis. Doing analysis is still new to me so
if you have any suggestions on how to do it better or what I should be
looking for then leave a comment. To see my analysis look at the first
game in my daily chess training games or copy it from below.

[Event "Southern Open August 4-6 2006"]
[Site "Orlando Hilton"]
[Date "2006.08.06"]
[Round "?"]
[White "Chase Carson"]
[Black "John Evans"]
[Result "0-1"]
[ECO "C50"]
[WhiteElo "1465"]
[BlackElo "1457"]
[Annotator "R.,John"]
[PlyCount "95"]
[EventDate "2006.??.??"]

1. e4 e5 2. Nf3 Nc6 3. Bc4 Bc5 4. Nc3 d6 (4... Nf6 {[%emt 0:00:00]} 5.
Nxe5 (5.
Ng5 O-O) 5... Nxe5 6. d4 Bxd4 7. Qxd4 d6 {Not sure if this the exact
sequence
but I've seen it many times and I like black here.}) 5. h3 a6 {
i'm worried about Na4} (5... Nf6 6. Na4) 6. d3 h6 7. O-O Nf6 8. a3 O-O
9. Re1
Be6 10. Bxe6 fxe6 11. Ne2 Nh5 12. d4 exd4 13. Nexd4 Nxd4 14. Nxd4 Qe8
15. Be3
e5 16. Nf5 Bxe3 17. Rxe3 Rd8 18. Qg4 Kh7 19. Qh4 g6 20. Ng3 Rf4 21.
Nxh5 gxh5
22. Qg3 Qf7 23. Rf3 Rxf3 24. Qxf3 Qxf3 25. gxf3 Rg8+ 26. Kf1 Kg6 27.
Ke2 Kf6
28. Rd1 a5 29. Rh1 (29. Rd5 b6 30. c4 Ke6 31. Ke3 c6 (31... Rg2 32. b4
axb4 33.
axb4 Rh2 34. c5 Rxh3 35. cxd6 cxd6 36. Rb5 Rh1 37. Rxb6 h4 38. Rc6 Kd7
39. b5
h3 40. Ra6 h2 41. b6 (41. Ra7+ Kc8 42. b6 Re1+ 43. Kd2 h1=Q 44. b7+
Kb8) 41...
Re1+ 42. Kd2 h1=Q 43. b7 Rd1+ 44. Kc2 Rc1+ 45. Kd2 Qd1+ 46. Ke3 Rc3#)
32. Rd1
Rg2 33. Rh1 d5 34. cxd5+ cxd5 35. exd5+ Kxd5 36. Rd1+ Ke6 37. Rd8 Rh2
38. Rh8
Rxh3 39. Rxh6+ Kd5 40. Rxb6 Kc5 41. Ra6 Kb5 42. Re6 Kc4 43. Rxe5) 29...
b5 30.
Rd1 Ke6 31. Ke3 Rg2 32. Rh1 c5 33. Ke2 b4 34. axb4 axb4 35. Kf1 Rg6 36.
Rg1
Rxg1+ 37. Kxg1 h4 38. Kf1 d5 39. Ke2 c4 (39... dxe4 40. fxe4 c4 41. f4
exf4 42.
b3 cxb3 43. cxb3 Ke5 44. Kf3 h5 45. Ke2 Kxe4 46. Kf2 Kd3 47. Kf3 Kc3
48. Kxf4
Kxb3 49. Kg5 Kc2 50. Kxh5 b3 51. Kxh4 b2 52. Kg5 b1=Q 53. h4 Qg1+ 54.
Kf6 Qg8
55. h5 Kd3 56. h6 Ke4 57. Ke7 Qh7+) 40. exd5+ Kxd5 41. Ke3 h5 42. c3 b3
43. f4
exf4+ (43... e4 44. f3 exf3 45. Kxf3 Ke6 46. Ke4 Kf6 47. f5 Ke7 48. Ke5
Kf7 49.
f6 Ke8 50. Ke6 Kf8 51. f7 Kg7 52. Ke7) 44. Kxf4 Ke6 45. Kg5 Ke7 46. Kf5
Ke8 47.
Ke6 Kf8 48. f4 0-1

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Thank you! That's exactly the kind of help I need. Like I stated in my post,
this was the first time I've ever analyzed a game on my own. Its amazing,
now that I think about it, that I've played for so long without doing it.
This is probably the main reason for me not improving.

I think its so easy to forget to write down my thoughts when Fritz allows me
to try different variations so quickly. I will try to do better.

Again thank you!

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John Evans ha escrito:

I just wrote an article on goal setting specifically geared towards
chess.
If you have so time give it a read and let me know what you think.

I'm also starting a training regiment that I am going to record on my
site.
Any input would be greatly appreciated.

http://growwithchess.com/2006/11/ach...s-pursuit.html
http://growwithchess.com/chess_train...ning_main.html

--
Thanks,
John


Hello,

I think you need to do some more things to analyze a game:

1) To add personal feelings, personal evaluations, your main idea. I
think it's important to verbalize.

You only posted a single personal note: 5. h3 a6 {i'm worried about
Na4} (5... Nf6 6. Na4)
And that comment is importnat because I can answer I think 5...a6 is a
waste of time 5...Nf6 is better and black has nothing to fear after
6.Na4 because He has Nxe4 winning a pawn.

Adding persnal view you help us to helping you: for example it's very
different to write "I saw 20....Rf4 21.Nxh5 and I allow it because I
though that to open the g line was good for black" and "I though
20...Rf4 would win white queen but I failed to see 21.Nxh5!"

2) Long lines without evaluations or annotations are nonsense

For example you have written: "(43... e4 44. f3 exf3 45. Kxf3 Ke6 46.
Ke4 Kf6 47. f5 Ke7 48. Ke5 Kf7 49.f6 Ke8 50. Ke6 Kf8 51. f7 Kg7 52.
Ke7" without any verbal annotation.

I mean I prefer something like:
Does not change the result 43... e4 44. f3 exf3 45. Kxf3 Ke6 46. Ke4
Kf6 47. f5 winning white easily advancing his "f " pawn and eating for
free the black "h" pawns.

3) There are no conclusions.

If I had studied that game I would try to find where I did wrong
suggesting alternatives.

In that case I think 37...h4?? to be the losing mistake no matter I
think it has some plan (like prepare Kf5-g5-f4 ... unfortunately that
can be avoided by white playing Ke3 and f4!).
I suggest you to study 37...d5 and the line 22...h4! 23.Qh2 Qc6! 24.Rc3
Qb6!

Antonio Torrecillas

------------ Copied form your site: -------------------

My first real analysis
Saturday, November 25, 2006

I spent about two hours looking at this game I lost and after going
over it I think I should have won it. This may sound strange, but this
maybe the first game I have ever analyzed on my own. I put the game in
fritz, but I did all the analysis. Doing analysis is still new to me so
if you have any suggestions on how to do it better or what I should be
looking for then leave a comment. To see my analysis look at the first
game in my daily chess training games or copy it from below.

[Event "Southern Open August 4-6 2006"]
[Site "Orlando Hilton"]
[Date "2006.08.06"]
[Round "?"]
[White "Chase Carson"]
[Black "John Evans"]
[Result "0-1"]
[ECO "C50"]
[WhiteElo "1465"]
[BlackElo "1457"]
[Annotator "R.,John"]
[PlyCount "95"]
[EventDate "2006.??.??"]

1. e4 e5 2. Nf3 Nc6 3. Bc4 Bc5 4. Nc3 d6 (4... Nf6 {[%emt 0:00:00]} 5.
Nxe5 (5.
Ng5 O-O) 5... Nxe5 6. d4 Bxd4 7. Qxd4 d6 {Not sure if this the exact
sequence
but I've seen it many times and I like black here.}) 5. h3 a6 {
i'm worried about Na4} (5... Nf6 6. Na4) 6. d3 h6 7. O-O Nf6 8. a3 O-O
9. Re1
Be6 10. Bxe6 fxe6 11. Ne2 Nh5 12. d4 exd4 13. Nexd4 Nxd4 14. Nxd4 Qe8
15. Be3
e5 16. Nf5 Bxe3 17. Rxe3 Rd8 18. Qg4 Kh7 19. Qh4 g6 20. Ng3 Rf4 21.
Nxh5 gxh5
22. Qg3 Qf7 23. Rf3 Rxf3 24. Qxf3 Qxf3 25. gxf3 Rg8+ 26. Kf1 Kg6 27.
Ke2 Kf6
28. Rd1 a5 29. Rh1 (29. Rd5 b6 30. c4 Ke6 31. Ke3 c6 (31... Rg2 32. b4
axb4 33.
axb4 Rh2 34. c5 Rxh3 35. cxd6 cxd6 36. Rb5 Rh1 37. Rxb6 h4 38. Rc6 Kd7
39. b5
h3 40. Ra6 h2 41. b6 (41. Ra7+ Kc8 42. b6 Re1+ 43. Kd2 h1=Q 44. b7+
Kb8) 41...
Re1+ 42. Kd2 h1=Q 43. b7 Rd1+ 44. Kc2 Rc1+ 45. Kd2 Qd1+ 46. Ke3 Rc3#)
32. Rd1
Rg2 33. Rh1 d5 34. cxd5+ cxd5 35. exd5+ Kxd5 36. Rd1+ Ke6 37. Rd8 Rh2
38. Rh8
Rxh3 39. Rxh6+ Kd5 40. Rxb6 Kc5 41. Ra6 Kb5 42. Re6 Kc4 43. Rxe5) 29...
b5 30.
Rd1 Ke6 31. Ke3 Rg2 32. Rh1 c5 33. Ke2 b4 34. axb4 axb4 35. Kf1 Rg6 36.
Rg1
Rxg1+ 37. Kxg1 h4 38. Kf1 d5 39. Ke2 c4 (39... dxe4 40. fxe4 c4 41. f4
exf4 42.
b3 cxb3 43. cxb3 Ke5 44. Kf3 h5 45. Ke2 Kxe4 46. Kf2 Kd3 47. Kf3 Kc3
48. Kxf4
Kxb3 49. Kg5 Kc2 50. Kxh5 b3 51. Kxh4 b2 52. Kg5 b1=Q 53. h4 Qg1+ 54.
Kf6 Qg8
55. h5 Kd3 56. h6 Ke4 57. Ke7 Qh7+) 40. exd5+ Kxd5 41. Ke3 h5 42. c3 b3
43. f4
exf4+ (43... e4 44. f3 exf3 45. Kxf3 Ke6 46. Ke4 Kf6 47. f5 Ke7 48. Ke5
Kf7 49.
f6 Ke8 50. Ke6 Kf8 51. f7 Kg7 52. Ke7) 44. Kxf4 Ke6 45. Kg5 Ke7 46. Kf5
Ke8 47.
Ke6 Kf8 48. f4 0-1



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John Evans wrote:
I appreciate your input, but I disagree with your assessment of the post. I
did list why I failed which is the first step to fixing any problem, but
as a fellow chess player I'm sure you agree with doing this first. Also, I
thought for every problem I mentioned I gave a solution that has worked for
me. As for the accountability step, I believe you should look deep into
yourself and find whatever you have too in order to reach your goals. In
some cases that's the help of others. You grab motivation from wherever you
can get it.

In any event, I honestly appreciate that fact that you took the time to read
it and write me such a detailed response. I will look at checking the book
you suggested out from the library to see if I like it.

My goal is to improve and with your help and others here I know I will do
it.

Oh, I enjoy reading your post on your site that's what motivated me to post
my training schedule. Keep up the good work!

--
Thanks,
John
http://growwithchess.com/
wrote in message
ups.com...

John Evans wrote:
I just wrote an article on goal setting specifically geared towards
chess.
If you have so time give it a read and let me know what you think.

I'm also starting a training regiment that I am going to record on my
site.
Any input would be greatly appreciated.

http://growwithchess.com/2006/11/ach...s-pursuit.html

http://growwithchess.com/chess_train...ning_main.html

--
Thanks,
John
http://growwithchess.com/


Your "Achieving Goals: A Chess Pursuit" should be renamed "Why I Fail"
as you really do not say much about how to achieve your chess goals,
but give reasons why you have failed in the past. I did not get much
advice on 'how' to achieve my goals much.

But, even with that in mind, I think you need to read the book "Think
and Grow Rich" and you will gain the confidence and motivational
commitment you seek. It seems your problem is accountability mostly;
but accountability to who? You seem to believe that accountability to
'other people' motivates you more than you failing yourself. That in
itself is a prime de-motivator, and the 'I dont care if I fail'
attitude that comes with it is admitting defeat before you begin. That
is probably the main issue you have with your training goals. You don't
really care what YOU think - you care more about what OTHERS think
about your progress. But chess is a game played by one person each side
and others have nothing to gain from your improvement, only you do.

Regards,
http://chess-training.blogspot.com


The problem with you being motivated by what others think is that you
have NO CONTROL over that. One day you will come to work and come to
the realization that no-one at work really, truly cares about your
chess skills. Then, where does that leave you? Do you 'reassess' your
motivation?

You cannot replace motivation from within by externalizing it. You will
fail. That is why you need to forget about ratings and what they say to
the outside world about your chess skills. It's just a number that
changes after every game, and if you get hung on them, you'll start
cherry-picking whom and when you play, and that in itself is
detrimental to your game.

My 2cs.

http://chess-training.blogspot.com

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I see the misunderstanding. I did not mean to imply that my only motivation
is derived from others. I use it to get me through the lazy times. When I
say I'm too tired to study or I want to stop I think of my friends and
family who come to all my tournaments to see how I'm doing. I don't want to
let myself or them down. This gives me that extra boost.

I do agree with you about ratings and that the core of your motivation has
to come from within.

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Thanks,
John
http://growwithchess.com/
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John Evans wrote:
I appreciate your input, but I disagree with your assessment of the post.
I
did list why I failed which is the first step to fixing any problem,
but
as a fellow chess player I'm sure you agree with doing this first. Also,
I
thought for every problem I mentioned I gave a solution that has worked
for
me. As for the accountability step, I believe you should look deep into
yourself and find whatever you have too in order to reach your goals. In
some cases that's the help of others. You grab motivation from wherever
you
can get it.

In any event, I honestly appreciate that fact that you took the time to
read
it and write me such a detailed response. I will look at checking the
book
you suggested out from the library to see if I like it.

My goal is to improve and with your help and others here I know I will do
it.

Oh, I enjoy reading your post on your site that's what motivated me to
post
my training schedule. Keep up the good work!

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Thanks,
John
http://growwithchess.com/
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John Evans wrote:
I just wrote an article on goal setting specifically geared towards
chess.
If you have so time give it a read and let me know what you think.

I'm also starting a training regiment that I am going to record on my
site.
Any input would be greatly appreciated.

http://growwithchess.com/2006/11/ach...s-pursuit.html

http://growwithchess.com/chess_train...ning_main.html

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Thanks,
John
http://growwithchess.com/

Your "Achieving Goals: A Chess Pursuit" should be renamed "Why I Fail"
as you really do not say much about how to achieve your chess goals,
but give reasons why you have failed in the past. I did not get much
advice on 'how' to achieve my goals much.

But, even with that in mind, I think you need to read the book "Think
and Grow Rich" and you will gain the confidence and motivational
commitment you seek. It seems your problem is accountability mostly;
but accountability to who? You seem to believe that accountability to
'other people' motivates you more than you failing yourself. That in
itself is a prime de-motivator, and the 'I dont care if I fail'
attitude that comes with it is admitting defeat before you begin. That
is probably the main issue you have with your training goals. You don't
really care what YOU think - you care more about what OTHERS think
about your progress. But chess is a game played by one person each side
and others have nothing to gain from your improvement, only you do.

Regards,
http://chess-training.blogspot.com


The problem with you being motivated by what others think is that you
have NO CONTROL over that. One day you will come to work and come to
the realization that no-one at work really, truly cares about your
chess skills. Then, where does that leave you? Do you 'reassess' your
motivation?

You cannot replace motivation from within by externalizing it. You will
fail. That is why you need to forget about ratings and what they say to
the outside world about your chess skills. It's just a number that
changes after every game, and if you get hung on them, you'll start
cherry-picking whom and when you play, and that in itself is
detrimental to your game.

My 2cs.

http://chess-training.blogspot.com



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