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Default Italian Gambit Trouble

If you "google" THE ITALIAN GAMBIT you'll locate this title (above) on the first or second page as a past "Chessbanter" subject.

1. e4 e5 2. Nf3 Nc6 3. Bc4 Bc5 4. d4!? (the Italian gambit).
The discussion concerns 4....Nxd4 were the standard reply by White is 5. Nxe5?!, if Black replies with 5. Qe7!, White's got some real problems--this discussion and analysis is fairly comprehensive so I'll leave it up to the reader to "google" it (the title). I tried their "maybe" suggestion of 5. b4!?, I had Deep Rybka4 do a "shootout" against itself--it played 5....Bb6 6. Nxe5 Qf6?! (I was sure it would play ....Qe7!) Anyway it played itself to a draw. The I plugged in 6....Qe7!, and low and behold it whipped White soundly. So 5. b4 gets a ?!.
The I tried 5. Be3 (Rybka's choice # 2) and in a 60 minute game it played to a draw. Looks as if Be3 is the move, 5. b4 could probably garner a win from an unprepared opponent.

Has anyone had any experience with either of these moves (b4/Be3) or this subject "Italian Gambit trouble" Looks to me that 5. Be3 gives equal chances and that the Italian Gambit is sound and Nxd4 is , in fact, NO trouble.
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On Monday, October 22, 2012 6:39:27 PM UTC+2, Pilotknight wrote:
If you "google" THE ITALIAN GAMBIT you'll locate this title (above) on

the first or second page as a past "Chessbanter" subject.
1. e4 e5 2. Nf3 Nc6 3. Bc4 Bc5 4. d4!? (the Italian gambit).
The discussion concerns 4....Nxd4


well interesting observation, the 5.Be3 move.

but 4...exd4 also is already equalizing for Black.

and then the Evans gambit might still be more interesting
for White gambit players, i suppose








were the standard reply by White is 5.
Nxe5?!, if Black replies with 5. Qe7!, White's got some real

problems--this discussion and analysis is fairly comprehensive so I'll

leave it up to the reader to "google" it (the title). I tried their

"maybe" suggestion of 5. b4!?, I had Deep Rybka4 do a "shootout" against

itself--it played 5....Bb6 6. Nxe5 Qf6?! (I was sure it would play

...Qe7!) Anyway it played itself to a draw. The I plugged in

6....Qe7!, and low and behold it whipped White soundly. So 5. b4 gets a

?!.

The I tried 5. Be3 (Rybka's choice # 2) and in a 60 minute game it

played to a draw. Looks as if Be3 is the move, 5. b4 could probably

garner a win from an unprepared opponent.



Has anyone had any experience with either of these moves (b4/Be3) or

this subject "Italian Gambit trouble" Looks to me that 5. Be3 gives

equal chances and that the Italian Gambit is sound and Nxd4 is , in

fact, NO trouble.









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Pilotknight


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