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Old March 5th 04, 06:39 PM
Sandy Breon
 
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A couple of months ago my chess teacher showed me a nice blitz opening. It
is best described as a Colle-Zukertort except with queenside castling
instead of playing c4. He says it is unsound, and only for blitz (he has
beaten GMs and IMs with it many times). However, I think it is playable at
the class level, and would like to get your opinion on it.

Setup for White:
-Knights on f3 and d2
-Bishops on d3 and b2
-Pawns on d4, e3, and b3
-Queen on e2
-Surprise Queenside castling

Plan for White:
-stick a Knight on e5
-launch kingside pawnstorm
-sacrifice on g/h file
-on ...cxd4 play exd4

Five sample games that I've played with it:

[Event "GCS"]
[Site "GCS"]
[Date "2004.03.04"]
[White "Me"]
[Black "OpponentE"]
[Result "1-0"]
[WhiteElo "1627"]
[BlackElo "1648"]
[TimeControl "120+5"]
[Round "?"]

1. d4 Nf6 2. Nf3 g6 3. e3 Bg7 4. Bd3 O-O 5. b3 b6 6. Bb2 Bb7 7. Nbd2 d5 8.
Qe2
c5 9. h4 Nc6 10. O-O-O a5 11. Ne5 a4 12. h5 Nxh5 13. Rxh5 gxh5 14. Qxh5 Nxe5
15. Qxh7# 1-0

[Event "GCS"]
[Site "GCS"]
[Date "2004.02.08"]
[White "Me"]
[Black "OpponentD"]
[Result "1-0"]
[WhiteElo "1636"]
[BlackElo "1834"]
[TimeControl "120+12"]
[Round "?"]

1. d4 d5 2. Nf3 Nf6 3. b3 Nc6 4. Bb2 e6 5. e3 Bb4+ 6. Nbd2 Bxd2+ 7. Qxd2 Ne4
8. Qd1 Qd6 9. a3 Bd7 10. Bd3 Nf6 11. Ne5 Qe7 12. Qe2 Na5 13. g4 O-O 14. g5
Ne8
15. O-O-O f6 16. Bxh7+ Kxh7 17. Qh5+ Kg8 18. g6 Rf7 19. Qh7+ Kf8 20. Qh8#
1-0

[Event "GCS"]
[Site "GCS"]
[Date "2004.01.17"]
[Round "?"]
[White "Me"]
[Black "OpponentC"]
[Result "0-1"]
[WhiteElo "1602"]
[BlackElo "1943"]
[TimeControl "180+12"]

1. d4 Nf6 2. Nf3 g6 3. e3 Bg7 4. b3 O-O 5. Bb2 b6 6. Nbd2 Bb7 7. Bd3 c5 8.
Qe2
d5 9. h4 Nbd7 10. Ne5 Nxe5 11. dxe5 Ne4 12. O-O-O Qc7 13. f4 Ng3 14. Qg4
Nxh1
15. Rxh1 Bc8 16. Qg3 Qc6 17. h5 b5 18. hxg6 fxg6 19. Nf3 c4 20. Nd4 Qc5
21. Bxg6 hxg6 22. Qxg6 Qb6 23. e6 Rf6 24. Qh7+ Kf8 25. Nf5 Qxe6 26. Qxg7+
Ke8
27. Rh8+ Kd7 28. Bxf6 Qxf6 29. Qxf6 exf6 30. Nd4 b4 31. bxc4 dxc4 32. Kd2
c3+
33. Ke2 Ba6+ 0-1

[Event "GCS"]
[Site "GCS"]
[Date "2004.01.08"]
[Round "?"]
[White "Me"]
[Black "OpponentB"]
[Result "1-0"]
[WhiteElo "1738E"]
[BlackElo "1625E"]
[TimeControl "120+12"]

1. d4 Nf6 2. Nf3 e6 3. b3 d5 4. Bb2 c6 5. e3 Be7 6. Bd3 Nbd7 7. Nbd2 c5 8.
Qe2
Qb6 9. Ne5 Nxe5 10. dxe5 Nd7 11. f4 O-O 12. O-O-O d4 13. Nc4 Qa6 14. Kb1 b5
15. Nd6 Bxd6 16. exd6 Qxd6 17. exd4 cxd4 18. Be4 Rb8 19. Rxd4 Qa6 20. Qh5 g6
21. Qh6 Nf6 22. Ra4 bxa4 23. Bxf6 1-0

[Event "GCS"]
[Site "GCS"]
[Date "2004.01.04"]
[Round "?"]
[White "Me"]
[Black "OpponentA"]
[Result "1-0"]
[WhiteElo "1691"]
[BlackElo "1772"]
[TimeControl "120+12"]

1. d4 e6 2. Nf3 d5 3. e3 Nf6 4. Bd3 c5 5. b3 cxd4 6. exd4 Nc6 7. Bb2 Bb4+
8. Nbd2 Qb6 9. Qe2 Bxd2+ 10. Qxd2 O-O 11. g4 g6 12. O-O-O a5 13. h4 a4 14.
g5
Ne4 15. Bxe4 dxe4 16. Ne5 Nxe5 17. dxe5 axb3 18. axb3 Qc6 19. h5 b6 20. hxg6
fxg6 21. Rh6 Ba6 22. Rdh1 Rf7 23. R1h3 Rd7 24. Qf4 Be2 25. Rh1 Rc8 26. c3
Rcc7
27. Qh4 Bf3 28. Rxg6+ Kf8 29. Rf6+ Ke8 30. Qh6 Re7 31. Qf8+ Kd7 32. Rxf3
exf3
33. Rd1+ Qd5 34. Rxd5+ exd5 35. Qxf3 Rxe5 36. Qf7+ Kd6 37. Qf4 d4 38. Kd2
1-0

This nice thing about it is that if you see early that you are likely to get
overrun on the queenside before you castle there, you can simply castle
kingside and transpose into the normal Colle. You can also play this system
with Black, although you are a move behind. But I have beaten much stronger
players with it on many occasions.

Let me know what you think.
Sandy


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Old March 5th 04, 11:36 PM
Kiddie Grinder
 
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"Sandy Breon" wrote in message
...
A couple of months ago my chess teacher showed me a nice blitz opening. It
is best described as a Colle-Zukertort except with queenside castling
instead of playing c4. He says it is unsound, and only for blitz (he has
beaten GMs and IMs with it many times). However, I think it is playable at
the class level, and would like to get your opinion on it.

Setup for White:
-Knights on f3 and d2
-Bishops on d3 and b2
-Pawns on d4, e3, and b3
-Queen on e2
-Surprise Queenside castling

Plan for White:
-stick a Knight on e5
-launch kingside pawnstorm
-sacrifice on g/h file
-on ...cxd4 play exd4


1-0

This nice thing about it is that if you see early that you are likely to

get
overrun on the queenside before you castle there, you can simply castle
kingside and transpose into the normal Colle. You can also play this

system
with Black, although you are a move behind. But I have beaten much

stronger
players with it on many occasions.

Let me know what you think.
Sandy


Interesting twist on the CZ, but it seems as Black should just send as much
firepower as possible at white's queenside, once he realizes what White is
up to.
(Queen a5 or b6; B to b4 or a3 if Qa5; R's to c8 and d8 --- play cxd4 to
open the c-file for Black's rook, etc.)

How about a KID setup for Black? Have you have the chance to play against it
yet?

And how about Bf5, instead of the slow b6, Bb7 setup?

Not trying to rain on your parade, but it seems like there are better setups
for Black that could give White trouble, especially with the king as a
target at c1 or b1, instead of the usual g1.

I used to love the Colle and Colle-Zukertort, but the passiveness of them
both made me hunt for something better.

But, hey, if it works, why argue with success!


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Old March 7th 04, 04:24 PM
Sandy Breon
 
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Interesting twist on the CZ, but it seems as Black should just send as
much
firepower as possible at white's queenside, once he realizes what White is
up to.
(Queen a5 or b6; B to b4 or a3 if Qa5; R's to c8 and d8 --- play cxd4 to
open the c-file for Black's rook, etc.)


You are right. It is a race to the king. Similar in concept to the Yugoslav
attack in the Dragon. However, what I find is the most shocking move is
plopping your knight on e5. This can be done before castling queenside. If
you look at the games you can see how awkward this can be for Black. While
Black thinks it is good to mess up your pawn strucutre and exchanges for it,
you will see how the pawn of e5 divides the board and is very annoying to
Black.

How about a KID setup for Black? Have you have the chance to play against

it
yet?


I get kingside fianchettos, but I don't often get d6, I usually get d5
instead, because in this setup the center is not challenged immediately.

And how about Bf5, instead of the slow b6, Bb7 setup?


I don't think I've seen this move either, although it makes sense since it
is an anti-Colle tactic.

Not trying to rain on your parade, but it seems like there are better

setups
for Black that could give White trouble, especially with the king as a
target at c1 or b1, instead of the usual g1.


This is probably why my chess teacher considers it unsound for over the
board play. And obviously, I have lost some games brutally, but I have
probably won two thirds of the games against equal competition in blitz. I
have beaten players 300 points above my rating with this system with both
the White and Black pieces. If you are already familiar with the CZ, I would
give it a try sometime. You might like it.

Sandy


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Old March 8th 04, 07:48 PM
Mike Ogush
 
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On Fri, 5 Mar 2004 13:39:21 -0500, "Sandy Breon"
wrote:

A couple of months ago my chess teacher showed me a nice blitz opening. It
is best described as a Colle-Zukertort except with queenside castling
instead of playing c4. He says it is unsound, and only for blitz (he has
beaten GMs and IMs with it many times). However, I think it is playable at
the class level, and would like to get your opinion on it.

Setup for White:
-Knights on f3 and d2
-Bishops on d3 and b2
-Pawns on d4, e3, and b3
-Queen on e2
-Surprise Queenside castling

Plan for White:
-stick a Knight on e5
-launch kingside pawnstorm
-sacrifice on g/h file
-on ...cxd4 play exd4

Five sample games that I've played with it:

[Event "GCS"]
[Site "GCS"]
[Date "2004.03.04"]
[White "Me"]
[Black "OpponentE"]
[Result "1-0"]
[WhiteElo "1627"]
[BlackElo "1648"]
[TimeControl "120+5"]
[Round "?"]

1. d4 Nf6 2. Nf3 g6 3. e3 Bg7 4. Bd3 O-O 5. b3 b6 6. Bb2 Bb7 7. Nbd2 d5 8.
Qe2
c5 9. h4 Nc6 10. O-O-O a5 11. Ne5 a4 12. h5 Nxh5 13. Rxh5 gxh5 14. Qxh5 Nxe5
15. Qxh7# 1-0


Sandy,

I am curious to know what you had planned to do if Black did not make
a colossal blunder of 12...Nxh5, which gave White a won game.

Black was better off pressing forward with his own attack on the
queenside via 12...Nb4 and after 13.hxg6 hxg6 then following up with
14...Nxa2 and 15...axb3 (if the a2-pawn is not moved to defended) or
14...Nxd3 and 15...axb3. In either case I believe Black can
adequately defend his king-side and White will have may have
difficulty defending his queen-side.

Mike Ogush

[Event "GCS"]
[Site "GCS"]
[Date "2004.02.08"]
[White "Me"]
[Black "OpponentD"]
[Result "1-0"]
[WhiteElo "1636"]
[BlackElo "1834"]
[TimeControl "120+12"]
[Round "?"]

1. d4 d5 2. Nf3 Nf6 3. b3 Nc6 4. Bb2 e6 5. e3 Bb4+ 6. Nbd2 Bxd2+ 7. Qxd2 Ne4
8. Qd1 Qd6 9. a3 Bd7 10. Bd3 Nf6 11. Ne5 Qe7 12. Qe2 Na5 13. g4 O-O 14. g5
Ne8
15. O-O-O f6 16. Bxh7+ Kxh7 17. Qh5+ Kg8 18. g6 Rf7 19. Qh7+ Kf8 20. Qh8#
1-0

[Event "GCS"]
[Site "GCS"]
[Date "2004.01.17"]
[Round "?"]
[White "Me"]
[Black "OpponentC"]
[Result "0-1"]
[WhiteElo "1602"]
[BlackElo "1943"]
[TimeControl "180+12"]

1. d4 Nf6 2. Nf3 g6 3. e3 Bg7 4. b3 O-O 5. Bb2 b6 6. Nbd2 Bb7 7. Bd3 c5 8.
Qe2
d5 9. h4 Nbd7 10. Ne5 Nxe5 11. dxe5 Ne4 12. O-O-O Qc7 13. f4 Ng3 14. Qg4
Nxh1
15. Rxh1 Bc8 16. Qg3 Qc6 17. h5 b5 18. hxg6 fxg6 19. Nf3 c4 20. Nd4 Qc5
21. Bxg6 hxg6 22. Qxg6 Qb6 23. e6 Rf6 24. Qh7+ Kf8 25. Nf5 Qxe6 26. Qxg7+
Ke8
27. Rh8+ Kd7 28. Bxf6 Qxf6 29. Qxf6 exf6 30. Nd4 b4 31. bxc4 dxc4 32. Kd2
c3+
33. Ke2 Ba6+ 0-1

[Event "GCS"]
[Site "GCS"]
[Date "2004.01.08"]
[Round "?"]
[White "Me"]
[Black "OpponentB"]
[Result "1-0"]
[WhiteElo "1738E"]
[BlackElo "1625E"]
[TimeControl "120+12"]

1. d4 Nf6 2. Nf3 e6 3. b3 d5 4. Bb2 c6 5. e3 Be7 6. Bd3 Nbd7 7. Nbd2 c5 8.
Qe2
Qb6 9. Ne5 Nxe5 10. dxe5 Nd7 11. f4 O-O 12. O-O-O d4 13. Nc4 Qa6 14. Kb1 b5
15. Nd6 Bxd6 16. exd6 Qxd6 17. exd4 cxd4 18. Be4 Rb8 19. Rxd4 Qa6 20. Qh5 g6
21. Qh6 Nf6 22. Ra4 bxa4 23. Bxf6 1-0

[Event "GCS"]
[Site "GCS"]
[Date "2004.01.04"]
[Round "?"]
[White "Me"]
[Black "OpponentA"]
[Result "1-0"]
[WhiteElo "1691"]
[BlackElo "1772"]
[TimeControl "120+12"]

1. d4 e6 2. Nf3 d5 3. e3 Nf6 4. Bd3 c5 5. b3 cxd4 6. exd4 Nc6 7. Bb2 Bb4+
8. Nbd2 Qb6 9. Qe2 Bxd2+ 10. Qxd2 O-O 11. g4 g6 12. O-O-O a5 13. h4 a4 14.
g5
Ne4 15. Bxe4 dxe4 16. Ne5 Nxe5 17. dxe5 axb3 18. axb3 Qc6 19. h5 b6 20. hxg6
fxg6 21. Rh6 Ba6 22. Rdh1 Rf7 23. R1h3 Rd7 24. Qf4 Be2 25. Rh1 Rc8 26. c3
Rcc7
27. Qh4 Bf3 28. Rxg6+ Kf8 29. Rf6+ Ke8 30. Qh6 Re7 31. Qf8+ Kd7 32. Rxf3
exf3
33. Rd1+ Qd5 34. Rxd5+ exd5 35. Qxf3 Rxe5 36. Qf7+ Kd6 37. Qf4 d4 38. Kd2
1-0

This nice thing about it is that if you see early that you are likely to get
overrun on the queenside before you castle there, you can simply castle
kingside and transpose into the normal Colle. You can also play this system
with Black, although you are a move behind. But I have beaten much stronger
players with it on many occasions.

Let me know what you think.
Sandy



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Old March 9th 04, 12:15 AM
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In article ,
"Sandy Breon" wrote:

You are right. It is a race to the king. Similar in concept to the Yugoslav
attack in the Dragon. However, what I find is the most shocking move is
plopping your knight on e5. This can be done before castling queenside. If
you look at the games you can see how awkward this can be for Black. While
Black thinks it is good to mess up your pawn strucutre and exchanges for it,
you will see how the pawn of e5 divides the board and is very annoying to
Black.


But I think a comparison to the Yugoslav attack shows how this setup is
more favorable to black. For example, black hasn't weakened his kingside
with -g6, which means it'll be much harder for white to force a
breakthrough.

I mean, one of the thematic sources of counterplay in the Colle is the
c-file. Black will play c5 and then, at an appropriate moment, cxd4.
This often works whether white has castled on the queenside or not.
Therefore "surprise" castling doesn't strike me as very surprising--
it's not like you're going to cause black to suddenly realize that his
plan has gone awry.

In the two games you posted that I went through, I felt black made very
straightforward strategic errors: failing to play -c5 in one game, and
then failing to play for the control of e5 in the other. These aren't,
to my might, particularly sophisticated ideas. I think most club players
would recognize them.

Of course this by no means suggests that black can't lose otherwise--
the Colle is a reputable opening, even if it's not the most dangerous
thing out there -- I just don't see the threat of castling long as being
particularly helpful to black. Once your start throwing your kingside
pawns forward it may quickly become apparant that your king isn't safe.
If black's central pressure forces exchanges, you may regret the fact
that you advanced your kingside pawns-- then can be weak in an endgame.


This is probably why my chess teacher considers it unsound for over the
board play. And obviously, I have lost some games brutally, but I have
probably won two thirds of the games against equal competition in blitz. I
have beaten players 300 points above my rating with this system with both
the White and Black pieces. If you are already familiar with the CZ, I would
give it a try sometime. You might like it.


Just out of curiosity, where are you playing these games? Online, or
Over the board?


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Old March 9th 04, 01:38 AM
Richard Stanz
 
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"Sandy Breon" wrote in message ...
A couple of months ago my chess teacher showed me a nice blitz opening. It
is best described as a Colle-Zukertort except with queenside castling
instead of playing c4. He says it is unsound, and only for blitz (he has
beaten GMs and IMs with it many times). However, I think it is playable at
the class level, and would like to get your opinion on it.

[snipped]

I wouldn't go so far as to say its unsound, but I'm not sure you get
much mileage out of going queenside instead of the normal kingside. On
the queenside, you're walking into Black's normal plan of attacking
the weakened dark squares on the queenside (e.g., Bd6, Qe7, cxd4 and
Ba3). What do you get in exchange for that? In the normal CZ with
0-0, White attacks with pieces and if it does become necessary to
start pushing the kingside pawns, I find that my king still stays
pretty safe on the kingside. With the king on the queenside, you
might be able to open and use the h-file and against uncertain play by
Black and in blitz games, you'll win a lot of games by pawn-storming.
But once your opponents get wise, it seems to me that you're taking
more of a risk than you need to take.

Just my two cents,
Richard Stanz
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Old March 9th 04, 02:35 PM
S. Breon
 
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But I think a comparison to the Yugoslav attack shows how this setup is
more favorable to black. For example, black hasn't weakened his kingside
with -g6, which means it'll be much harder for white to force a
breakthrough.


Against this setup, if black hasn't played g6 but has castled 0-0 and
has a knight on f6, you can play g4, offering a pawn sacrifice.
Obviously, taking the pawn will open up the g file for you. If black
doesn't take the pawn, then you can immediately push g5 gaining a
tempo and kicking out the knight. Also, Bxh7 sacrifices can be in the
air, with the Queen coming to h5.

In the two games you posted that I went through, I felt black made very
straightforward strategic errors: failing to play -c5 in one game, and
then failing to play for the control of e5 in the other. These aren't,
to my might, particularly sophisticated ideas. I think most club players
would recognize them.


Controlling e5 isn't easy for black, since the Bb2 protects the pawn
if the Ne5 is traded off. Also, f4 or the Nd2 can later move to c3
protecting e5.

These are online blitz games, by the way.
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Old March 9th 04, 03:06 PM
S. Breon
 
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Black was better off pressing forward with his own attack on the
queenside via 12...Nb4 and after 13.hxg6 hxg6 then following up with
14...Nxa2 and 15...axb3 (if the a2-pawn is not moved to defended) or
14...Nxd3 and 15...axb3. In either case I believe Black can
adequately defend his king-side and White will have may have
difficulty defending his queen-side.


Nb4 is probably the biggest weakness in this setup. After defending
the a2 pawn with a3 or Kb1, and Black plays ...Nxd3, I have played
both Nxd3(from Ne5) and Qxd3, depending on the situation. I have also
tried playing an early a3 to prevent Nb4 altogether, with mixed
results. One time I sacrificed my d3 bishop on h7 before black could
capture it. I have also left the a2 pawn undefended to gain an extra
attacking move. I have found Nb4 to be one of the first real problems
to answer with this system, with the answer depending on the
situation.

Sandy
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