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Old October 17th 05, 01:42 AM
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that are the same , Shredder vs Shredder or any two that are the same
will they draw ?
Or if one wins does that mean that the program in one is some how
stronger than the other one ?

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Old October 17th 05, 01:37 PM
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Mike B wrote:
that are the same , Shredder vs Shredder or any two that are the same
will they draw ?


Not necessarily. For a trivial example of an engine that can beat itself,
consider a an engine which plays chess if it has the white pieces and
resigns without making a move if it has black. Now, that's a silly case,
but it's easy to imagine an engine that's stronger at attacking than it is
at defending and it's easy to imagine two copies of the same engine
following the opening book into a position where the engine knows how to
exploit some minor imbalance.


Or if one wins does that mean that the program in one is some how
stronger than the other one ?


If the programs are both the same, how can one be stronger than the other?


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Old October 17th 05, 04:35 PM
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Mike B wrote:

that are the same , Shredder vs Shredder or any two that are
the same will they draw ?


No. There will be some wins, some losses, and some draws. If they
really are the same strength, they will both have roughly the same
number of wins.

In my opinion, a computer vs. computer matchup amplifies the effect
of faster hardware and more efficient programming. A computer that
is much better than another when they play each other may be only
slightly better against a human.

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Old October 17th 05, 06:27 PM
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Thank You for the Info .....



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Old October 17th 05, 09:31 PM
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Guy Macon wrote:
Mike B wrote:

that are the same , Shredder vs Shredder or any two that are
the same will they draw ?



No. There will be some wins, some losses, and some draws. If they
really are the same strength, they will both have roughly the same
number of wins.

In my opinion, a computer vs. computer matchup amplifies the effect
of faster hardware and more efficient programming. A computer that
is much better than another when they play each other may be only
slightly better against a human.

What a mix-up.
Why do you involve "human" in this??

I think Dave was precise enough.

HD


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Old October 18th 05, 07:13 AM
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Guy Macon wrote:
HD wrote:


What a mix-up.
Why do you involve "human" in this??

I think Dave was precise enough.



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Have nothing against your posts, and maybe my response seemed a little
impolite in it's form. Sorry for that.
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