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Can you guys look at this game. This is my second attempt at an analysis of
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Here's the game, with my notes embedded.

[Event "GCS"]

[Site "GCS"]

[Date "2006.11.26"]

[Round "?"]

[White "Excalibur2"]

[Black "PapaDragon"]

[Result "1-0"]

[TimeControl "900"]

[Annotator "Evans,John"]

[ECO "D20"]

[EventDate "2006.??.??"]

[PlyCount "67"]

[WhiteElo "1930"]

[ModificationDate "2006.12.03"]

[BlackElo "1696"]



1. d4 d5 2. c4 dxc4 {I recognized that this is the queens gambit
accepted, but the truth is that after this I have no idea what the
correct continuation is for black. RM: Okay, but you're black here. You
get to make the choice. Do you know more about the QGD than the QGA? In
any event, you're accepting a gambit. You do have a choice here.} 3. e4
{I see that he is tryng to get back the pawn he's down right away. So I
decided to go on the attack and try to keep my pawn advantage by
attacking the d4 pawn. RM: I understand antionio's reticence to
give lots of tactical variations, but I simply want to point out other
strategic considerations: black has a big center which you're probably
going ot want to strike back at with your c-pawn.} Nc6 4. Nf3 Bg4 5.
Bxc4 e6 {I didn't take the knight because I was worried about the the
mate tthreat on f7 after the exchange. And I don't think and can force
anything. See variations} (5. ... Bxf3 6. Qxf3 Nf6 7. e5 Nxd4 8. Qd1 Ne4
(8. ... Ng8 $1 {saves the knight - RM} ) 9.Be3 Nc6 10. Qxd8+ Nxd8 11. f3
{and then I'm down a knight.}) (5. ... Nxd4 6.Bxf7+ Kxf7 7. Ng5+ Kf6 8.
Qxg4 Nc2+ 9. Ke2 Nh6 10. e5+ {white has much better ... find it} Kxe5
11. Qe4+ Kd6 {I'm just in a horrible position. So I think I cant take
the knight or pawn} 12. Qxc2 {white has much better ... find it.}) 6.
d5 {I have several options here, but I want to attack so I do. I miss
the queen check on a4. RM: That's "hope chess." You can't attack unless
you have an advantage of some kind.} Ne5 7. Qa4+ Nd7 (7. ... c6 8. dxc6
{you let this pass without comment. You think it's losing for black?})
8. Ne5 Nf6 9. f3 {I can only save the Bishop by moving it. RM: not true!
Look harder at this position.} Bh5 10. dxe6 fxe6 11. Bxe6 Bd6 {This was
a mistake. I have three pieces attacking d7 and only two protecting it.
RM: not true. Your knight is protected by a knight, your queen, and your
king. You: I need to get a piece off that square and the only thing that
does that is c6. This move is a losing move.} (11. ... c6 12.Nxd7 Nxd7
13. Qd4 {I still think I'm in trouble because he can castle and put
more prssure on d7, but i hav some more time now. RM: White is clealry
better here, but this is nowhere close to losing after} Nc5 {white is up
a pawn but behind in development.}) 12. Nxd7 Nxd7 13. Bxd7+ Qxd7 14.
Qxd7+ Kxd7 {I hate havin g my king out like this but i felt like i was
still in the game. I'm down two pawns so its not looking good I'm hoping
he makes a mistake. i have no plan. RM: As has been pointing out, you're
not down two pawns, you're down one. That being said, you're much worse,
because your opponent has a protected passed pawn. However: you procede
to make your position much worse over the next several moves.} 15. O-O
Bc5+ 16. Kh1 Rad8 17. Bg5 Rde8 18. Nc3 c6 {Did this to prevent Nb5, but
now I see thats no a threat because the bishop protects a7 and
the king protect c7} (18. ... h6 19. Bf4 g5 20. Rad1+ Kc8 21. Bg3 Rd8
22. Rxd8+ Rxd8 23. Nb5 {RM: but in this position, you can play c6 and be
perfectly safe.}) 19. Rad1+ Kc8 {RM: did you consider Ke6 here? Why or
why not?} 20. Rc1 Kb8 21.Bf4+ Ka8 22. Nb5 cxb5 23. Rxc5 a6 {Blunder!!
Left Bishop hanging} 24. Rxh5 h6 25. Rc1 g5 26. Be3 Rd8 27. Rc7 Rd1+ 28.
Bg1 Kb8 29. Rg7 Rd6 30. h3 Ka8 31. Rgxg5 Rc8 32. Rd5 Rdc6 33. Rc5 Rd6
34. Rxc8# 1-0
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This was very much appreciated. I am very interested in going over your
comments and I will let you know what I discover with you guided questions.

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Here's the game, with my notes embedded.

[Event "GCS"]

[Site "GCS"]

[Date "2006.11.26"]

[Round "?"]

[White "Excalibur2"]

[Black "PapaDragon"]

[Result "1-0"]

[TimeControl "900"]

[Annotator "Evans,John"]

[ECO "D20"]

[EventDate "2006.??.??"]

[PlyCount "67"]

[WhiteElo "1930"]

[ModificationDate "2006.12.03"]

[BlackElo "1696"]



1. d4 d5 2. c4 dxc4 {I recognized that this is the queens gambit
accepted, but the truth is that after this I have no idea what the
correct continuation is for black. RM: Okay, but you're black here. You
get to make the choice. Do you know more about the QGD than the QGA? In
any event, you're accepting a gambit. You do have a choice here.} 3. e4
{I see that he is tryng to get back the pawn he's down right away. So I
decided to go on the attack and try to keep my pawn advantage by
attacking the d4 pawn. RM: I understand antionio's reticence to
give lots of tactical variations, but I simply want to point out other
strategic considerations: black has a big center which you're probably
going ot want to strike back at with your c-pawn.} Nc6 4. Nf3 Bg4 5.
Bxc4 e6 {I didn't take the knight because I was worried about the the
mate tthreat on f7 after the exchange. And I don't think and can force
anything. See variations} (5. ... Bxf3 6. Qxf3 Nf6 7. e5 Nxd4 8. Qd1 Ne4
(8. ... Ng8 $1 {saves the knight - RM} ) 9.Be3 Nc6 10. Qxd8+ Nxd8 11. f3
{and then I'm down a knight.}) (5. ... Nxd4 6.Bxf7+ Kxf7 7. Ng5+ Kf6 8.
Qxg4 Nc2+ 9. Ke2 Nh6 10. e5+ {white has much better ... find it} Kxe5
11. Qe4+ Kd6 {I'm just in a horrible position. So I think I cant take
the knight or pawn} 12. Qxc2 {white has much better ... find it.}) 6.
d5 {I have several options here, but I want to attack so I do. I miss
the queen check on a4. RM: That's "hope chess." You can't attack unless
you have an advantage of some kind.} Ne5 7. Qa4+ Nd7 (7. ... c6 8. dxc6
{you let this pass without comment. You think it's losing for black?})
8. Ne5 Nf6 9. f3 {I can only save the Bishop by moving it. RM: not true!
Look harder at this position.} Bh5 10. dxe6 fxe6 11. Bxe6 Bd6 {This was
a mistake. I have three pieces attacking d7 and only two protecting it.
RM: not true. Your knight is protected by a knight, your queen, and your
king. You: I need to get a piece off that square and the only thing that
does that is c6. This move is a losing move.} (11. ... c6 12.Nxd7 Nxd7
13. Qd4 {I still think I'm in trouble because he can castle and put
more prssure on d7, but i hav some more time now. RM: White is clealry
better here, but this is nowhere close to losing after} Nc5 {white is up
a pawn but behind in development.}) 12. Nxd7 Nxd7 13. Bxd7+ Qxd7 14.
Qxd7+ Kxd7 {I hate havin g my king out like this but i felt like i was
still in the game. I'm down two pawns so its not looking good I'm hoping
he makes a mistake. i have no plan. RM: As has been pointing out, you're
not down two pawns, you're down one. That being said, you're much worse,
because your opponent has a protected passed pawn. However: you procede
to make your position much worse over the next several moves.} 15. O-O
Bc5+ 16. Kh1 Rad8 17. Bg5 Rde8 18. Nc3 c6 {Did this to prevent Nb5, but
now I see thats no a threat because the bishop protects a7 and
the king protect c7} (18. ... h6 19. Bf4 g5 20. Rad1+ Kc8 21. Bg3 Rd8
22. Rxd8+ Rxd8 23. Nb5 {RM: but in this position, you can play c6 and be
perfectly safe.}) 19. Rad1+ Kc8 {RM: did you consider Ke6 here? Why or
why not?} 20. Rc1 Kb8 21.Bf4+ Ka8 22. Nb5 cxb5 23. Rxc5 a6 {Blunder!!
Left Bishop hanging} 24. Rxh5 h6 25. Rc1 g5 26. Be3 Rd8 27. Rc7 Rd1+ 28.
Bg1 Kb8 29. Rg7 Rd6 30. h3 Ka8 31. Rgxg5 Rc8 32. Rd5 Rdc6 33. Rc5 Rd6
34. Rxc8# 1-0



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Can you guys look at this game. This is my second attempt at an analysis

of
one of my games.

http://growwithchess.com/chess_train...-analysis.html

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Thanks,
John
http://growwithchess.com/



Excalibur2 (1930) - PapaDragon (1696) [D20]

GCS GCS, 26.11.2006

1.d4 d5 2.c4 Ok. For gambits you should know that you don't need to try too
hard to protect the pawn but instead counter somehow. 2...dxc4 3.e4 Nc6
4.Nf3 Bg4 5.Bxc4 e6 6.d5 Ne5 This knight move was bad. Don't complicate
things. Make it simple. Better was just grabbing the pawn. 7.Qa4+ Nd7 8.Ne5
Ngf6 9.f3 Actually you are slightly better here. Instead of running, just
try to counter opponents more dangerous pieces. In this position exd5. If he
takes your bishop and you take his... yes, you exchanged bishops. But the
difference is that you get rid of your bad bishop because his pawns lock him
and your opponent loses its active bishop. 9...Bh5 10.dxe6 fxe6 11.Bxe6 In
this position I'd play either c6 with the threat of Nxe5 or maybe fork on c5
or Qe7 when white is forced to exchange his active and dangerous pieces.
11...Bd6 12.Nxd7 Nxd7 13.Bxd7+ Qxd7 14.Qxd7+ Kxd7 15.0-0 Ok, you say you
don't have a plan here. Well, ask yourself how can you improve your position
and placement of your pieces? My suggestions are... 1. Move your inactive
bishop from h5. He is locked there so he has to be given the square that at
least has the potential of good bishop development - say Bf72. Try to move
your rooks to d and e files 15...Bc5+ 16.Kh1 Rad8 17.Bg5 Why not counter
with Be7? You are running all of the game. FIGHT! 17...Rde8 18.Nc3 c6
19.Rad1+ Someone said Ke6? I think Kc8 is more acurate. It makes your king
more safe and away from nasty looking f and e file pawns. 19...Kc8 20.Rc1
Kb8 I simply can't understand the idea behind this move. It just enables
white to check you again. I prefer Bd6 - placing you bishop on the crucial
diagonal and then if Nb5 Bb1 21.Bf4+ Ka8 22.Nb5 I would chose Bb6 here. I
feel it's more sound and doesn't open the c file. 22...cxb5 23.Rxc5 Again,
if you considered placing your bishop on f7 way back when you had no plan,
this hanging of a bishop would never hapen. But, you are human and you too
make mistakes. Then again, if WC Kramnik can overlook mate in one, you can
hang pieces too 23...a6 24.Rxh5 h6 25.Rc1 g5 26.Be3 Rd8 27.Rc7 Rd1+
28.Bg1 Kb8 29.Rg7 Rd6 30.h3 h4 for your opponent was better. 30...Ka8
31.Rgxg5 Rc8 32.Rd5 Rdc6 33.Rc5 Rd6 Another in series of blunders but black
was lost anyway. 34.Rxc8# So, to conclude. 1. Don't complicate - play simple
chess2. I suggest playing open games at the begining of your chess career3.
Don't run - FIGHT!! Make your opponents life a hell.4. Every single move (no
matter black or white) ask yourself some questions:a. what's his idea?b. if
I can refute his idea, what is he leaving to me with that move?c. am I
leaving something to my opponent by playing this move?d. if nothing is
happening, how can I improve my position? What's the plan? Hope this
comments help. BTW in one of your variations at the begining white had mate
in one - Qe6#, examine them again 1-0






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