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8/8/4r3/2k3P1/8/3R4/3K1N2/8 w - - 0 63
wKd2,Nf2,Rd3,Pg5/bKc5,Re6

or

http://mychessanalysis.tripod.com/images/

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Pono Fan wrote:
8/8/4r3/2k3P1/8/3R4/3K1N2/8 w - - 0 63
wKd2,Nf2,Rd3,Pg5/bKc5,Re6

or

http://mychessanalysis.tripod.com/images/


Looks like there should be.

Try 1. Ng4 Rg6 2. Nf6 Kc4 3. Rd5 to start with, then bring the white
king over towards the pawn.

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On Mar 30, 4:27 pm, "Pono Fan" wrote:
8/8/4r3/2k3P1/8/3R4/3K1N2/8 w - - 0 63
wKd2,Nf2,Rd3,Pg5/bKc5,Re6

or

http://mychessanalysis.tripod.com/images/


Well, it didn't analyze down to mate, but Fritz8 rated the position
at about +8, pretty much a lead-pipe cinch. Since White can usually
win this sort of position with just rook and pawn vs. rook, I would
think he would have an even easier time with an extra knight.
Is there some escape clause for Black?

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Win in 21 says the Nalimov Endgame Tablebases (http://www.k4it.de/
index.php?topic=egtb&lang=en).

CHS

On 30 mar, 19:02, "Taylor Kingston" wrote:
On Mar 30, 4:27 pm, "Pono Fan" wrote:

8/8/4r3/2k3P1/8/3R4/3K1N2/8 w - - 0 63
wKd2,Nf2,Rd3,Pg5/bKc5,Re6


or


http://mychessanalysis.tripod.com/images/


Well, it didn't analyze down to mate, but Fritz8 rated the position
at about +8, pretty much a lead-pipe cinch. Since White can usually
win this sort of position with just rook and pawn vs. rook, I would
think he would have an even easier time with an extra knight.
Is there some escape clause for Black?



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"Pono Fan" wrote in message
oups.com...
8/8/4r3/2k3P1/8/3R4/3K1N2/8 w - - 0 63
wKd2,Nf2,Rd3,Pg5/bKc5,Re6

or

http://mychessanalysis.tripod.com/images/


This is a trivial win for white.

Rook behind the king then move the king over.

Regards




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"Chvsanchez" wrote in message
ups.com...
Win in 21 says the Nalimov Endgame Tablebases (http://www.k4it.de/


Very nice! Do you know of a place to download the 6 piece Nalimov
tablebases?



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I was better but..... wrote:

Very nice! Do you know of a place to download the 6 piece Nalimov
tablebases?


See: http://kd.lab.nig.ac.jp/chess/tablebases-online/

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"Chvsanchez" wrote in message
ups.com...
Win in 21 says the Nalimov Endgame Tablebases (http://www.k4it.de/
index.php?topic=egtb&lang=en).

CHS


new one are now out, according to Convekta

Nalimov Endgame Tablebases: [base material about $26 retail]

1) Nalimov Endgame Tablebases, 6-pieces, 2 DVDs (17 Gb).
The product includes the following Endings tablebases:

pawn + pawn against pawn + pawn
pawn + pawn + pawn against pawn
Knight + pawn against Bishop + pawn
Knight + pawn against Knight + pawn
Bishop + pawn against Bishop + pawn

The retail price is 26 USD. Nalimov Tablebases are supplied in standard
formats and can be used in all famous programs including Fritz, Junior,
Chess Base, ?hess Assistant and others.

2) New release of Total Nalimov Tablebases, all 3-4-5 pieces and main 6
pieces, 6 DVDs (50Gb).

This product has the reduced wholesale price and includes more Tablebases
than Fritz DVD Endgame Turbo! Plus Database of 376 000 correspondence games
in PGN format as a Bonus!

The retail price is 59 USD. Nalimov Tablebases and Correspondence database
are supplied in standard formats and can be used in all famous programs
including Fritz, Junior, Chess Base, ?hess Assistant and other.


Phil Innes

On 30 mar, 19:02, "Taylor Kingston" wrote:
On Mar 30, 4:27 pm, "Pono Fan" wrote:

8/8/4r3/2k3P1/8/3R4/3K1N2/8 w - - 0 63
wKd2,Nf2,Rd3,Pg5/bKc5,Re6


or


http://mychessanalysis.tripod.com/images/


Well, it didn't analyze down to mate, but Fritz8 rated the position
at about +8, pretty much a lead-pipe cinch. Since White can usually
win this sort of position with just rook and pawn vs. rook, I would
think he would have an even easier time with an extra knight.
Is there some escape clause for Black?





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"Chvsanchez" wrote in message
ups.com...
Win in 21 says the Nalimov Endgame Tablebases (http://www.k4it.de/


Very nice! Do you know of a place to download the 6 piece Nalimov
tablebases?


you can try convekta direct or contact chessville [we are cheaper]

phil


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I've never paid for tablebases phil. and dont' intend to start.



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"I was better but....." wrote in message
news:[email protected]

"Chvsanchez" wrote in message
ups.com...
Win in 21 says the Nalimov Endgame Tablebases (http://www.k4it.de/


Very nice! Do you know of a place to download the 6 piece Nalimov
tablebases?


you can try convekta direct or contact chessville [we are cheaper]

phil



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