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Old May 28th 07, 03:07 PM posted to rec.games.chess.politics,rec.games.chess.misc,rec.games.chess.analysis,rec.games.chess.computer,soc.culture.magyar
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Default Susan Polgar Version of the "National Chess Championship"

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Originally Posted by Brian Mottershead
But Susan apparently doesn't even see the
issue. If her reaction weren't part of her usual pattern of "I'm
always right and harder-working than everybody else so if the USCF
ever disagrees with me, it is because they a are a bunch of corrupt
stupid people playing politics" it could be easily solved, and I
probably wouldn't even be commenting. She has already commented on
this particular question on her blog and has taken exactly that
line.

Susan Polgar's open disrespect for the USCF is one of the main reasons
that people should vote against her.
I see what you mean. Her comments are he

http://susanpolgar.blogspot.com/2007...ise-of-us.html

Her blog contains an amazing number of false statements even by the
standards of Susan. By the way, she quotes me directly without
attribution.

Among her many false and misleading statements is: "No board member
has spoken to me about this."

The board is not supposed to talk to Susan about this. That is the job
of the Executive Director and he has spoken to her about this. That is
how I know about it.

I wonder how many readers can see through her false statements.
Judging by the comments she has allowed on her forum thus far, none of
them have. Of course, it is well known that Susan will delete any
comment with which she disagrees.

I would think that any person of average intelligence would see that
Susan Polgar running her own private tournament and calling it the
"National Chess Championship" is a problem, in that it conflicts with
the REAL US Chess Championship won last week by Shabalov.

Also, Susan says that the "Evil Chess Politicians" refused to pay
bonuses to the 2004 Womans Olympiad team. The bonuses of $20,000 were
paid over a year ago. Actually, I do not think they were owed any
bonuses by the USCF. The Kasparov Chess Foundation was the sponsor of
her team, not the USCF. I have asked the USCF office for documentation
about this and received nothing. Apparently, it is in the landfill.

If there was such a contract, Susan should produce it. I do not
believe that the contract exists.

Susan says on her blog that we are trying to "prevent" players from
participating in her "National Chess Championship". The USCF is doing
no such thing. Anybody foolish enough to think that her tournament is
a real national chess championship is free to play. However, the USCF
will not rate her event or advertise her tournament in Chess Life.

Sam Sloan

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Default Susan Polgar Version of the "National Chess Championship"

I'm jealous of her success and I'll screw things up for her before I'm
out of the office in 2 months. She's Hungarian. We're an American
federation. We don't need any stinking Hungarian or Russian to run
this federation. They should all go back to where they're from. The
USCF shouldn't allow any non American born to be members or run for
office. It's time Goichberg, Channing, Schultz, Lux, Jones, Goodall
and I take a stance. We're white and we're men. We should run things.
Vote for Sloan, Goodall, Lux and Jones!

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Default Susan Polgar Version of the "National Chess Championship"

Her blog contains an amazing number of false statements even by the
standards of Susan. By the way, she quotes me directly without
attribution.

Among her many false and misleading statements is: "No board member
has spoken to me about this."

The board is not supposed to talk to Susan about this.

**In other words - or actually the same ones, it is not a false statement

That is the job
of the Executive Director and he has spoken to her about this. That is
how I know about it.


**'Spoken' and 'about'?

**I would think its useful to know if the USCF board have made a claim to
the word 'national' or 'world' and if they have put that into writing, and
if /that/ is what any USCF-related partnership makes as a condition of such
partnership?

I would think that any person of average intelligence would see that
Susan Polgar running her own private tournament and calling it the
"National Chess Championship" is a problem, in that it conflicts with
the REAL US Chess Championship won last week by Shabalov.

**Unfortunately USCF can't have it both ways - since Eric is always saying
USCF is a BRAND of chess, and it has 'properties' and so on - what is
different in USCF's behavior to any other 'brand'?

**Unless, of course, USCF states and can prove that its constitution grants
it a monopoly on chess - but I think that would get it into more formal
trouble than it already has with its own mission statement - A document
mostly winked at.

Also, Susan says that the "Evil Chess Politicians" refused to pay
bonuses to the 2004 Womans Olympiad team. The bonuses of $20,000 were
paid over a year ago. Actually, I do not think they were owed any
bonuses by the USCF. The Kasparov Chess Foundation was the sponsor of
her team, not the USCF. I have asked the USCF office for documentation
about this and received nothing. Apparently, it is in the landfill.

If there was such a contract, Susan should produce it. I do not
believe that the contract exists.


**Sam Sloan states that he can't find the contract, nor any record of it,
which doesn't even lodge itself in the accounts department who nevertheless
paid up on it after several years. His 'belief' extends to doubting its
existance, but not as far as to actually inquire of the organisation itself
why it was paid? Surely someone must have instructed payment?

Susan says on her blog that we are trying to "prevent" players from
participating in her "National Chess Championship". The USCF is doing
no such thing. Anybody foolish enough to think that her tournament is
a real national chess championship is free to play. However, the USCF
will not rate her event or advertise her tournament in Chess Life.


**I think this is fair enough. And it is also absolutely clear that USCF is
a brand-name organiser operating an illegal monopoly under the guise of
being a non-profit organisation to promote chess. It acts like a for-profit
organisation to suppress chess.

**As a non-organisation based reporter, our publisher intends to promote our
own TLA section, to make it FREE, and we already reach more US chess players
everyweek than USCF does. Our idea is basically to supprot chess by letting
people know what's going on where and when, which we think will keep the
active ones in the game. I know this is an entirely radical idea, but hey...

Phil Innes
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Sam Sloan


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Last year she called it the "Susan Polgar World Championship".

Take a look at
http://www.uschess.org/msa/XtblMain.php?200606187731

FIDE must have been surprised to learn that we have a new World
Champion.

I imagine that most readers realize that Susan's event was not the
REAL World Championship.

As to the great service she does to chess by running these events,
note that she charges entry fees ranging from $30 well in advance to
$60 at the site. The prizes she awards consist of trophies, gift
certificates, books by Susan Polgar, DVDs by Susan Polgar and other
give away and promotional items.

The rest is pure profit.

Apparently, not many were fooled because last year her "World
Championship" drew only 72 players.

I have no objection to Susan making money from running chess
tournaments. The poor girl needs money. However, she should use other
names for her tournaments rather than calling them the "World
Championship" and "National Championship".

Sam Sloan

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Default Susan Polgar Version of the "National Chess Championship"

On May 28, 11:30 am, samsloan wrote:
Last year she called it the "Susan Polgar World Championship".

Take a look athttp://www.uschess.org/msa/XtblMain.php?200606187731

FIDE must have been surprised to learn that we have a new World
Champion.

I imagine that most readers realize that Susan's event was not the
REAL World Championship.

As to the great service she does to chess by running these events,
note that she charges entry fees ranging from $30 well in advance to
$60 at the site. The prizes she awards consist of trophies, gift
certificates, books by Susan Polgar, DVDs by Susan Polgar and other
give away and promotional items.

The rest is pure profit.

Apparently, not many were fooled because last year her "World
Championship" drew only 72 players.

I have no objection to Susan making money from running chess
tournaments. The poor girl needs money. However, she should use other
names for her tournaments rather than calling them the "World
Championship" and "National Championship".

Sam Sloan





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Default Susan Polgar Version of the "National Chess Championship"

On May 28, 11:30 am, samsloan wrote:
Last year she called it the "Susan Polgar World Championship".

Take a look athttp://www.uschess.org/msa/XtblMain.php?200606187731

FIDE must have been surprised to learn that we have a new World
Champion.

I imagine that most readers realize that Susan's event was not the
REAL World Championship.

As to the great service she does to chess by running these events,
note that she charges entry fees ranging from $30 well in advance to
$60 at the site. The prizes she awards consist of trophies, gift
certificates, books by Susan Polgar, DVDs by Susan Polgar and other
give away and promotional items.

The rest is pure profit.

Apparently, not many were fooled because last year her "World
Championship" drew only 72 players.

I have no objection to Susan making money from running chess
tournaments. The poor girl needs money. However, she should use other
names for her tournaments rather than calling them the "World
Championship" and "National Championship".

Sam Sloan


Yes, I see what you mean Sam, but you're a dumbass.

72 is not bad for an all-girls event. Oops! Forget about that?


You probably get all confused about all the different "Pro Wrestling"
Federation world champions as well.

I vote to rename the FIDE title to 'SPWC'.

"Susan Polgar World Championship"

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