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Welcome back! Did you enjoy your vacation?

I personally believe that Kamsky will beat Topalov. What especially
interests me is the question of what measures will be taken to prevent
computer cheating. Both Topalov and Kramnik have in the past been
accused of computer cheating, whereas Anand and Kamsky have never been
accused of this.

Of course, the players will assert their constitutional rights to go
to the restroom during and after every move and to spend a long time
sitting on the toilet even while it is their move and their clock is
running, but some reasonable limits should be placed on this. Will the
players be searched? Will devices be set up to detect radio waves that
may be coming in to inform the players of the latest results of
computer analysis?

In an era where there are several computer chess playing programs that
can easily defeat the best human players in the world, the chess
playing public wants to feel secure that the human world chess
champion is really all human.

Sam Sloan
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Old February 13th 08, 11:46 PM posted to rec.games.chess.computer,rec.games.chess.misc,rec.games.chess.politics,rec.games.chess.analysis,alt.chess
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here below is one opinion, more objective opinion, and with no toilet-talk
involved, shows kamsky to be the very-much underdog - this simple message
will not appeal to paranoics and those who think in terms of 'radio-wave'
intercessions

both are great players - to anticipate any need for either one to cheat is
to cheapen what they do

..phil innes

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Welcome back! Did you enjoy your vacation?

I personally believe that Kamsky will beat Topalov. What especially
interests me is the question of what measures will be taken to prevent
computer cheating. Both Topalov and Kramnik have in the past been
accused of computer cheating, whereas Anand and Kamsky have never been
accused of this.

Of course, the players will assert their constitutional rights to go
to the restroom during and after every move and to spend a long time
sitting on the toilet even while it is their move and their clock is
running, but some reasonable limits should be placed on this. Will the
players be searched? Will devices be set up to detect radio waves that
may be coming in to inform the players of the latest results of
computer analysis?

In an era where there are several computer chess playing programs that
can easily defeat the best human players in the world, the chess
playing public wants to feel secure that the human world chess
champion is really all human.

Sam Sloan



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samsloan wrote:

I personally believe that Kamsky will beat Topalov. What especially
interests me is the question of what measures will be taken to prevent
computer cheating. Both Topalov and Kramnik have in the past been
accused of computer cheating, whereas Anand and Kamsky have never been
accused of this.


My opponents have never accused me of using
a computer to find my moves; perhaps it's because
I hang so many pawns, or maybe it's because my
opening play is atrocious-- who knows?


Of course, the players will assert their constitutional rights to go
to the restroom during and after every move and to spend a long time
sitting on the toilet even while it is their move and their clock is
running, but some reasonable limits should be placed on this. Will the
players be searched? Will devices be set up to detect radio waves that
may be coming in to inform the players of the latest results of
computer analysis?


One solution would be to broadcast, with great
intensity, a concert of "The Who" during play,
on the microwave channels which are used for
communications between computers.


In an era where there are several computer chess playing programs that
can easily defeat the best human players in the world, the chess
playing public wants to feel secure that the human world chess
champion is really all human.


I wouldn't go so far as to say "easily"; in fact,
these programs work their butts off during play,
often looking at gazillions of possible moves
before finding the best ones.

I still recall a game where world champion
Kramnik was winning, but tossed his advantage
in an early endgame to an even game, then fell
into an obvious mate-in-one. That was not an
"easy" win-- except for the last move, of course,
which any duffer could see.


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