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Old September 14th 08, 06:14 AM posted to rec.games.chess.analysis,rec.games.chess.misc,alt.chess,rec.games.chess.computer,rec.games.chess.politics
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Default Games by Help Bot & Taylor Kingston.

Today 2 games were played by Help Bot & Taylor Kingston against easy
level.

I find Taylor Kingston too 74 sec / move while Help Bot was taking 45
sec / move.

Both win the game against Easy Level. But they exchanged the Queen in
the opening itself to avoid Big fight.

Since the major pieces were gone early, the game came into END GAME.

And since GetClub END GAME is weak both win the game easily.

Both finished the middle game quickly.

I am posting both games below.

First Game by Help Bot.
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He exhanged most of the pieces in the opening and win the End Game.

Game Played between help bot and easy at GetClub.com

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help bot: (Black)
easy: (White)
Game Played at: http://www.GetClub.com/Chess.html
View Recorded Game: http://www.getclub.com/playgame.php?...067&game=Chess
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White -- Black
(easy) -- (help bot)

1. e2-e4{0} c7-c6{6}
2. d2-d4{0} d7-d5{2}
3. Nb1-c3{0} d5-e4{2}
4. Nc3-e4{0} Bc8-f5{2}
5. f2-f3{322} Bf5-e4{68}
6. f3-e4{24} e7-e5{28}
7. Ng1-f3{24} e5-d4{82}
8. Qd1-d4{0} Qd8-d4{14}
9. Nf3-d4{28} Nb8-d7{34}
10. Bc1-g5{134} Bf8-c5{54}
11. Nd4-f5{88} g7-g6{46}
12. Nf5-h6{20} Ng8-h6{80}
13. Bg5-h6{0} Ke8-c8{14}
14. Ke1-c1{22} Nd7-e5{36}
15. Rd1-d8{20} Rh8-d8{14}
16. h2-h3{28} f7-f6{80}
17. Bh6-d2{0} b7-b5{110}
18. g2-g4{20} Ne5-f3{52}
19. Bf1-d3{40} Nf3-e5{46}
20. Rh1-f1{20} Bc5-e7{66}
21. Bd2-c3{42} Ne5-d3{66}
22. c2-d3{66} Rd8-d3{20}
23. Bc3-f6{308} Be7-f6{76}
24. Rf1-f6{0} Rd3-h3{12}
25. Rf6-c6{24} Kc8-b7{38}
26. Rc6-c5{42} Kb7-b6{28}
27. Rc5-g5{42} Kb6-c6{56}
28. e4-e5{28} a7-a6{48}
29. e5-e6{54} Kc6-d6{26}
30. b2-b3{88} Kd6-e6{22}
31. Rg5-c5{48} Ke6-d6{24}
32. b3-b4{72} Rh3-h4{42}
33. Rc5-g5{58} Rh4-h2{40}
34. Kc1-b1{22} Rh2-g2{24}
35. a2-a3{62} Rg2-d2{80}
36. Rg5-c5{20} Rd2-d4{42}
37. g4-g5{40} Rd4-d5{60}
38. Rc5-d5{58} Kd6-d5{4}
39. Kb1-b2{106} Kd5-e5{38}
40. a3-a4{64} Ke5-f5{16}
41. a4-b5{68} a6-b5{6}
42. Kb2-b3{106} Kf5-g5{10}
43. Kb3-c3{40} Kg5-f5{26}
44. Kc3-d4{32} g6-g5{8}
45. Kd4-e3{116} h7-h5{14}
46. Ke3-f2{82} Kf5-f4{12}
47. Kf2-g1{24} Kf4-f3{22}
48. Kg1-f1{30} g5-g4{8}
49. Kf1-e1{38} g4-g3{16}
50. Ke1-d1{40} Kf3-e3{14}
51. Kd1-c2{74}
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help bot: (Black)
easy: (White)
Game Played at: http://www.GetClub.com/Chess.html
View Recorded Game: http://www.getclub.com/playgame.php?...067&game=Chess


Second Game by Taylor Kingston
------------------------------------------

He too exchanged Queen in the opening Stage and win in the End Game.

Game Played between Stinky Garlnoot and easy at GetClub.com

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Stinky Garlnoot: (Black)
easy: (White)
Game Played at: http://www.GetClub.com/Chess.html
View Recorded Game: http://www.getclub.com/playgame.php?...022&game=Chess
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

White -- Black
(easy) -- (Stinky Garlnoot)

1. e2-e4{0} c7-c5{2}
2. c2-c3{0} d7-d5{8}
3. e4-d5{0} Qd8-d5{6}
4. d2-d4{0} Ng8-f6{6}
5. b2-b3{134} Nb8-c6{130}
6. d4-c5{20} Qd5-d1{120}
7. Ke1-d1{0} e7-e5{4}
8. b3-b4{26} a7-a5{36}
9. Bf1-b5{78} Bc8-d7{102}
10. Bb5-c6{28} Bd7-c6{36}
11. f2-f3{64} b7-b6{122}
12. c5-b6{22} a5-b4{18}
13. Ng1-h3{182} Bf8-c5{398}
14. b6-b7{0} Bc6-b7{22}
15. Bc1-g5{100} Nf6-d5{46}
16. Rh1-e1{28} f7-f6{32}
17. Bg5-d2{38} b4-b3{104}
18. a2-a3{48} Ra8-d8{68}
19. a3-a4{22} Nd5-b6{58}
20. Nh3-f4{32} Ke8-f7{50}
21. a4-a5{90} Nb6-c4{42}
22. Nf4-h5{126} b3-b2{86}
23. Ra1-a2{32} Nc4-d2{42}
24. Kd1-c2{38} Nd2-c4{24}
25. a5-a6{24} Bb7-d5{80}
26. Ra2-a4{26} Rd8-b8{132}
27. a6-a7{22} Nc4-e3{46}
28. Re1-e3{30} Bd5-b3{22}
29. Kc2-d3{26} Rb8-d8{34}
30. Ra4-d4{56} e5-d4{32}
31. Re3-e1{48} Bc5-a7{20}
32. Nh5-f4{138} Rd8-c8{64}
33. c3-d4{20} Rc8-c1{26}
34. Kd3-d2{24} Rh8-c8{64}
35. Nf4-d3{26} Rc1-c2{116}
36. Kd2-e3{0} Rc8-e8{20}
37. Ke3-f4{24} Re8-e1{48}
38. Nd3-e1{46} Rc2-e2{6}
39. Ne1-d3{32} Ba7-b8{56}
40. Nd3-e5{0} f6-e5{16}
41. d4-e5{28} Bb8-e5{42}
42. Kf4-g5{84} Bb3-e6{30}
43. f3-f4{28}
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Stinky Garlnoot: (Black)
easy: (White)
Game Played at: http://www.GetClub.com/Chess.html
View Recorded Game: http://www.getclub.com/playgame.php?...022&game=Chess

--------------------------

So you can see how both players quickly got into end game where
GetClub is weak and win the game.

Still this was Easy Level and yet competed well.

If they had not exchanged major pieces in the opening then it would
have been a difficult game.

As GetClub's end game is not good.

Do you see any mistake in the games of Help Bot & Taylor Kingston.

Help Bot was thinking 45 sec / move while Taylor Kingston was thinking
74 sec / move

While the Easy Level was thinking 55 sec / move.

So all players were roughly taking same time.

I was expacting GetClub will win But since they exchanged the pieces
GetClub could not play with full potential.

Bye
Sanny

Play Chess at: http://www.GetClub.com/Chess.html
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Old September 14th 08, 06:28 AM posted to rec.games.chess.computer
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Default Games by Help Bot & Taylor Kingston.

Who would win between Helpbot vs Kingston ?

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Old September 14th 08, 12:12 PM posted to rec.games.chess.analysis,rec.games.chess.misc,alt.chess,rec.games.chess.computer,rec.games.chess.politics
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Default Toughest game by Help Bot.

This game with NORMAL Level continued till 97 moves.

Help Bot used his new trick to bring End Game and win as End Game
GetClub plays weak.

He exchanged most of the pieces and then win.

Still It was a tough fight no one stepping back. There was attack and
counter attack from both sides.

Game Played between help bot and normal at GetClub.com

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help bot: (Black)
normal: (White)
Game Played at: http://www.GetClub.com/Chess.html
View Recorded Game: http://www.getclub.com/playgame.php?...094&game=Chess
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White -- Black
(normal) -- (help bot)

1. e2-e4{0} g7-g6{12}
2. d2-d4{0} Bf8-g7{4}
3. Nb1-c3{0} c7-c6{8}
4. Bc1-e3{252} d7-d5{28}
5. e4-d5{92} c6-d5{6}
6. Ng1-f3{432} Ng8-f6{10}
7. Nf3-e5{524} Ke8-g8{14}
8. Bf1-d3{90} Nb8-c6{28}
9. Ne5-c6{186} b7-c6{26}
10. Ke1-g1{330} Qd8-c7{142}
11. Ra1-b1{244} Nf6-g4{34}
12. g2-g3{92} e7-e5{26}
13. d4-e5{298} Ng4-e3{12}
14. f2-e3{84} Bc8-h3{34}
15. Rf1-f2{108} Bg7-e5{56}
16. Qd1-f3{92} f7-f5{60}
17. Nc3-a4{270} a7-a5{62}
18. Rb1-e1{128} Qc7-d6{108}
19. b2-b3{120} Ra8-b8{64}
20. Bd3-a6{172} Rf8-e8{56}
21. Ba6-d3{432} Re8-e7{58}
22. c2-c3{530} Rb8-e8{62}
23. Rf2-d2{96} Be5-f6{136}
24. Bd3-f1{336} Bh3-f1{24}
25. Kg1-f1{96} Bf6-g5{36}
26. Rd2-e2{80} Re7-e4{36}
27. h2-h4{244} Bg5-h6{46}
28. Na4-b2{204} Qd6-e5{92}
29. Nb2-d1{120} a5-a4{120}
30. b3-b4{144} a4-a3{40}
31. Qf3-g2{194} Re4-g4{36}
32. Kf1-f2{144} Bh6-f8{36}
33. Qg2-f3{176} Bf8-d6{30}
34. Re1-g1{166} Bd6-c7{100}
35. Re2-d2{96} h7-h5{104}
36. b4-b5{150} Rg4-e4{94}
37. b5-c6{90} Qe5-e6{48}
38. Rd2-d3{216} Qe6-c6{28}
39. Kf2-g2{266} Bc7-b6{56}
40. Rg1-e1{92} Qc6-c4{54}
41. Rd3-d2{158} Re8-e5{98}
42. Kg2-h3{372} Kg8-g7{36}
43. Re1-e2{200} Qc4-c8{106}
44. Kh3-g2{338} Qc8-e6{58}
45. Rd2-d3{82} Bb6-c5{42}
46. Re2-e1{250} Re4-c4{102}
47. Re1-f1{340} Re5-e4{68}
48. Rf1-g1{116} Bc5-e7{238}
49. Nd1-f2{208} Be7-f6{1578}
50. Qf3-e2{186} Re4-e5{58}
51. Rg1-b1{84} Qe6-c6{1330}
52. Nf2-d1{0} Re5-e7{210}
53. Qe2-f3{92} Re7-d7{110}
54. Rb1-b3{104} Bf6-e7{46}
55. Kg2-g1{540} Be7-c5{60}
56. Nd1-f2{184} Rc4-e4{206}
57. Rb3-b8{398} Rd7-b7{102}
58. Rb8-b7{400} Qc6-b7{20}
59. Kg1-f1{84} Qb7-b1{126}
60. Qf3-d1{82} Qb1-d1{118}
61. Nf2-d1{136} Bc5-d6{64}
62. Nd1-f2{248} Re4-c4{28}
63. Kf1-g2{304} Bd6-c5{68}
64. Nf2-h3{190} Rc4-e4{26}
65. Kg2-f3{152} Re4-c4{66}
66. Nh3-f4{110} Bc5-d6{420}
67. Nf4-d5{4} Bd6-e5{16}
68. Nd5-f4{506} Rc4-c3{58}
69. Rd3-c3{246} Be5-c3{928}
70. Kf3-g2{0} Bc3-e5{148}
71. Nf4-d3{266} Be5-d6{74}
72. Nd3-f4{226} Kg7-f6{78}
73. Kg2-f3{290} Kf6-f7{332}
74. Kf3-f2{230} Bd6-e5{906}
75. Nf4-d3{222} Be5-d6{366}
76. Nd3-f4{138} Kf7-f6{34}
77. Kf2-f3{162} Kf6-e5{1000}
78. Nf4-g6{106} Ke5-d5{6}
79. Ng6-f4{102} Kd5-c4{14}
80. e3-e4{750} Kc4-c3{222}
81. e4-f5{106} Kc3-b2{24}
82. Kf3-e4{96} Kb2-a2{28}
83. Nf4-e6{310} Ka2-b2{142}
84. Ke4-d5{102} Bd6-e7{54}
85. f5-f6{158} Be7-f6{26}
86. Kd5-e4{466} a3-a2{102}
87. Ne6-f4{116} Qa2-a1{Q}{682}
88. Ke4-f5{108} Kb2-c2{50}
89. Kf5-g6{136} Bf6-e5{34}
90. Nf4-h5{202} Be5-g3{20}
91. Nh5-g3{86} Qa1-g1{6}
92. h4-h5{130} Qg1-g3{10}
93. Kg6-f5{244} Qg3-g7{22}
94. h5-h6{182} Qg7-h6{10}
95. Kf5-e4{92} Qh6-g5{32}
96. Ke4-d4{8} Qg5-f5{14}
97. Kd4-d3{2}
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help bot: (Black)
normal: (White)
Game Played at: http://www.GetClub.com/Chess.html
View Recorded Game: http://www.getclub.com/playgame.php?...094&game=Chess

Help Bot gave sacrifice of its pawn and Bishop to promote Queen.

Its a game of very tough fight.

Help Bot was thinking on average 140 sec / move. While Normal Level
was thinking for 240 sec / move.

This is Toughest fight seen at GetClub between Normal Level and Help
Bot.

This is the first game where help bot was thinking more than 2 min /
move. ~ 140 sec / move.

Beginner: 2200+
Easy: 2300+
Normal: 2400+

Analyze the above game and lets see if anyone can spot any mistake in
Help Bot or the Normal Level game.

Bye
Sanny

Play Chess at: http://www.GetClub.com/Chess.html
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Old September 14th 08, 12:17 PM posted to rec.games.chess.computer
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Default Games by Help Bot & Taylor Kingston.

On Sep 14, 10:28*am, (SAT W-7) wrote:
Who would win between Helpbot vs Kingston ?


If they play 10 games most of them will be drawn.

As Help Bot is the best player at GetClub. While Taylor Kingston too
is a good player.

If they want they can play against each other at GetClub.

Play Chess at: http://www.GetClub.com/Chess.html

They just have to descide a time of day when both will login and start
playing with each other at GetClub.

Playing with Human opponents is available at GetClub.

Only descide the time when both players will be Online and start
playing.

Rules of human Players.

1. Max time taken for a move 120 sec. If your time up you loose.
2. If connection breaks you loose the game.

Bye
Sanny

Play Chess at: http://www.GetClub.com/Chess.html
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Old September 14th 08, 02:17 PM posted to rec.games.chess.analysis,rec.games.chess.misc,alt.chess,rec.games.chess.computer,rec.games.chess.politics
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Default GetFlub still smell like old fish: Games by Help Bot & TaylorKingston.

On Sep 14, 1:14*am, Sanny wrote:
Today 2 games were played by Help Bot & Taylor Kingston against easy
level.

I find Taylor Kingston too 74 sec / move while Help Bot was taking 45
sec / move.

Both win the game against Easy Level. But they exchanged the Queen in
the opening itself to avoid Big fight.


No, I exchanged queens because it was the best move at the time. If
your program is so weak that it cannot play well without its queen,
then you had best program it not to play openings where it offers a
queen exchange at move 6.

Since the major pieces were gone early, the game came into END GAME.


Sanny, you don't know an endgame from your hind end. What we had in
that game was a *_queenless middle game_*, not an endgame. It never
reached an endgame. Plus, your program was busted by the early middle
game.

And since GetClub END GAME is weak both win the game easily.


GetClub _is_ weak in the endgame. Also in the opening and middle
game.

Both finished the middle game quickly.

I am posting both games below.

First Game by Help Bot.
---------------------------------------

He exhanged most of the pieces in the opening and win the End Game.

Game Played between help bot and easy at GetClub.com

---------------------------------------------------------------------------*-----
help bot: (Black)
easy: (White)
Game Played at:http://www.GetClub.com/Chess.html
View Recorded Game:http://www.getclub.com/playgame.php?...067&game=Chess
---------------------------------------------------------------------------*-----

White -- Black
(easy) -- (help bot)

1. e2-e4{0} c7-c6{6}
2. d2-d4{0} d7-d5{2}
3. Nb1-c3{0} d5-e4{2}
4. Nc3-e4{0} Bc8-f5{2}
5. f2-f3{322} Bf5-e4{68}
6. f3-e4{24} e7-e5{28}
7. Ng1-f3{24} e5-d4{82}
8. Qd1-d4{0} Qd8-d4{14}
9. Nf3-d4{28} Nb8-d7{34}
10. Bc1-g5{134} Bf8-c5{54}
11. Nd4-f5{88} g7-g6{46}
12. Nf5-h6{20} Ng8-h6{80}
13. Bg5-h6{0} Ke8-c8{14}
14. Ke1-c1{22} Nd7-e5{36}
15. Rd1-d8{20} Rh8-d8{14}
16. h2-h3{28} f7-f6{80}
17. Bh6-d2{0} b7-b5{110}
18. g2-g4{20} Ne5-f3{52}
19. Bf1-d3{40} Nf3-e5{46}
20. Rh1-f1{20} Bc5-e7{66}
21. Bd2-c3{42} Ne5-d3{66}
22. c2-d3{66} Rd8-d3{20}
23. Bc3-f6{308} Be7-f6{76}
24. Rf1-f6{0} Rd3-h3{12}
25. Rf6-c6{24} Kc8-b7{38}
26. Rc6-c5{42} Kb7-b6{28}
27. Rc5-g5{42} Kb6-c6{56}
28. e4-e5{28} a7-a6{48}
29. e5-e6{54} Kc6-d6{26}
30. b2-b3{88} Kd6-e6{22}
31. Rg5-c5{48} Ke6-d6{24}
32. b3-b4{72} Rh3-h4{42}
33. Rc5-g5{58} Rh4-h2{40}
34. Kc1-b1{22} Rh2-g2{24}
35. a2-a3{62} Rg2-d2{80}
36. Rg5-c5{20} Rd2-d4{42}
37. g4-g5{40} Rd4-d5{60}
38. Rc5-d5{58} Kd6-d5{4}
39. Kb1-b2{106} Kd5-e5{38}
40. a3-a4{64} Ke5-f5{16}
41. a4-b5{68} a6-b5{6}
42. Kb2-b3{106} Kf5-g5{10}
43. Kb3-c3{40} Kg5-f5{26}
44. Kc3-d4{32} g6-g5{8}
45. Kd4-e3{116} h7-h5{14}
46. Ke3-f2{82} Kf5-f4{12}
47. Kf2-g1{24} Kf4-f3{22}
48. Kg1-f1{30} g5-g4{8}
49. Kf1-e1{38} g4-g3{16}
50. Ke1-d1{40} Kf3-e3{14}
51. Kd1-c2{74}
---------------------------------------------------------------------------*-----
*help bot: (Black)
easy: (White)
Game Played at:http://www.GetClub.com/Chess.html
View Recorded Game:http://www.getclub.com/playgame.php?...067&game=Chess

Second Game by Taylor Kingston
------------------------------------------

He too exchanged Queen in the opening Stage and win in the End Game.

Game Played between Stinky Garlnoot and easy at GetClub.com

---------------------------------------------------------------------------*-----
Stinky Garlnoot: (Black)
easy: (White)
Game Played at:http://www.GetClub.com/Chess.html
View Recorded Game:http://www.getclub.com/playgame.php?...022&game=Chess
---------------------------------------------------------------------------*-----

White -- Black
(easy) -- (Stinky Garlnoot)

1. e2-e4{0} c7-c5{2}
2. c2-c3{0} d7-d5{8}
3. e4-d5{0} Qd8-d5{6}
4. d2-d4{0} Ng8-f6{6}
5. b2-b3{134} Nb8-c6{130}
6. d4-c5{20} Qd5-d1{120}
7. Ke1-d1{0} e7-e5{4}
8. b3-b4{26} a7-a5{36}
9. Bf1-b5{78} Bc8-d7{102}
10. Bb5-c6{28} Bd7-c6{36}
11. f2-f3{64} b7-b6{122}
12. c5-b6{22} a5-b4{18}
13. Ng1-h3{182} Bf8-c5{398}
14. b6-b7{0} Bc6-b7{22}
15. Bc1-g5{100} Nf6-d5{46}
16. Rh1-e1{28} f7-f6{32}
17. Bg5-d2{38} b4-b3{104}
18. a2-a3{48} Ra8-d8{68}
19. a3-a4{22} Nd5-b6{58}
20. Nh3-f4{32} Ke8-f7{50}
21. a4-a5{90} Nb6-c4{42}
22. Nf4-h5{126} b3-b2{86}
23. Ra1-a2{32} Nc4-d2{42}
24. Kd1-c2{38} Nd2-c4{24}
25. a5-a6{24} Bb7-d5{80}
26. Ra2-a4{26} Rd8-b8{132}
27. a6-a7{22} Nc4-e3{46}
28. Re1-e3{30} Bd5-b3{22}
29. Kc2-d3{26} Rb8-d8{34}
30. Ra4-d4{56} e5-d4{32}
31. Re3-e1{48} Bc5-a7{20}
32. Nh5-f4{138} Rd8-c8{64}
33. c3-d4{20} Rc8-c1{26}
34. Kd3-d2{24} Rh8-c8{64}
35. Nf4-d3{26} Rc1-c2{116}
36. Kd2-e3{0} Rc8-e8{20}
37. Ke3-f4{24} Re8-e1{48}
38. Nd3-e1{46} Rc2-e2{6}
39. Ne1-d3{32} Ba7-b8{56}
40. Nd3-e5{0} f6-e5{16}
41. d4-e5{28} Bb8-e5{42}
42. Kf4-g5{84} Bb3-e6{30}
43. f3-f4{28}
---------------------------------------------------------------------------*-----
*Stinky Garlnoot: (Black)
easy: (White)
Game Played at:http://www.GetClub.com/Chess.html
View Recorded Game:http://www.getclub.com/playgame.php?...022&game=Chess

--------------------------

So you can see how both players quickly got into end game where
GetClub is weak and win the game.

Still this was Easy Level and yet competed well.

If they had not exchanged major pieces in the opening then it would
have been a difficult game.

As GetClub's end game is not good.

Do you see any mistake in the games of Help Bot & Taylor Kingston.

Help Bot was thinking 45 sec / move while Taylor Kingston was thinking
74 sec / move

While the Easy Level was thinking 55 sec / move.

So all players were roughly taking same time.

I was expacting GetClub will win But since *they exchanged the pieces
GetClub could not play with full potential.

Bye
Sanny

Play Chess at:http://www.GetClub.com/Chess.html




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Default GetClub lose only because others play better

On Sep 14, 1:14*am, Sanny wrote:

Today 2 games were played by Help Bot & Taylor Kingston against easy
level. Both win game without much trouble. But that because they
cheat. GetClub cannot make strong moves, but they do. That no fair. If
everyone just make bad moves, GetClub win all the time.

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Default Toughest game by Help Bot.

On Sep 14, 7:12*am, Sanny wrote:

Help Bot was thinking on average 140 sec / move. While Normal Level
was thinking for 240 sec / move.


This is Toughest fight seen at GetClub between Normal Level and Help
Bot.

This is the first game where help bot was thinking more than 2 min /
move. ~ 140 sec / move.



When I play the Normal level, I have no
choice but to do other things while the
program "thinks". In this one, I frequently
left the room and was watching a DVD,
and while I can usually hear the signal
that the program has moved and get up
to make my reply, I am not always eager
to go back and forth, so sometimes I
wait for the DVD to reach an intermission
point, a break between lectures, before
returning to my computer in the other
room.

Thus, if I took five+ minutes on a move,
it is very likely that I was not thinking, but
just watching the DVD or perhaps I may
have left home to run an errand. Figure
all that "down time" in, and you will not
get an accurate picture of what is really
going on at my end.

In fact, just the other day I moved so
quickly that the instant I saw my move
on screen, I realized I had just hung a
Bishop. You may recall that game-- a
70 mover I believe, which I won in spite
of this careless blunder. When I do take
a very long time to think, it is usually
because I am not making headway in a
winning position, and I need to rethink
my entire plan, or decide whether or
not to risk loss in going for a win.

I am no genius in complex middle
game positions-- as you no doubt saw
the last time I lost to GetClub. But in
the openings, your program seems to
have a serious problem with failure to
develop "normally", preferring to hop
its Knights about aimlessly, and so
forth. And in the endgame, well, let's
just say it doesn't know an endgame
from a French vanilla ice cream cone.


-- help bot

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