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Default Worlds best Chess players.

Which are the top 5 best players in the world?

What is the rating of each player?

Here is what I think

I suppose Best Player is Anand.
Second best is Kasparov
Third best is Kramnik
Fourth best is Topalov
Fifth best is Karpov

I do not know rating of each I have chosen them as per their
populatity.

Play Chess at: http://www.GetClub.com/Chess.html

From a website I got more details about best players of the world.

Current top 50 (July 2007): Anand, Topalov, Kramnik, Ivnchuk,
Morozevich, Mamedyarov, Leko, Aronian, Radjabov, Jakovenko, Shirov,
Svidler, Gelfand, Grischuk, Adams, Kamsky, Carlsen, Akopian, J Polgar,
Ponomariov, Eljanov, Wang, Bacrot, Alekseev, Bu, Nisipeanu,
Kasimdzhanov, Short, Almasi, Volokitin, Ni, Dominguez-Peres,
Rublevsky, Van Wely, Karjakin, Malakhov, Sasikiran, Milov,
Miroshnichenko, Landa, Movsesian, Sargissian, Vallejo Pons, Sokolov,
Harikrishna, Georgiev, Inarkiev, Krasenkow, Socko, Volkov

Chessmetrics (Sonas) top 50 list: Kasparov, Lasker, Capablanca,
Botvinnik, Fischer, Karpov, Alekhine, Anand, Kramnik, Pillsbury,
Ivanchuk, Korchnoi, Steinitz, Smyslov, Tarrasch, Maroczy, Petrosian,
Rubinstein, Tal, Reshevsky, Keres, Najdorf, Nimzovich, Spassky,
Zukertort, Bronstein, Chigorin, Marshall, Kamsky, Leko, Gelfand,
Salov, Bogoljubow, Beliavsky, Shirov, Geller, Timman, Adams, Fine,
Janowsky, Polugaevsky, Topalov, Schlechter, Portisch, Stein, Euwe,
Flohr, Morozevich, Larsen, Bareev

Roman Krumsieck's top 50 list: Eichborn, Kasparov, Anand, Kramnik,
Ivanchuk, Karpov, Topalov, Svidler, Ponomariov, Leko, Shirov,
Morozevich, Aronian, Grischuk, Adams, Kamsky, Milov, Bareev, Gelfand,
Fischer, Radjabov, J Polgar, Salov, Bacrot, Kasimdzhanov, Mamedyarov,
Short, Akopian, Sasikiran, Dreev, Smirin, M Gurevich, Malakhov, Van
Wely, Sokolov, Khalifman, Azmaiparashvili, Georgiev, Rublevsky,
Korchnoi, Nikolic, McShane, Piket, Yusupov, Beliavsky, Lautier,
Nisipeanu, Nakamura, Naiditsch, Timman

Professional Chess Association (PCA) (WCC) top 50 list (2002):
Kasparov, Kramnik, Topalov, Ponomariov, Anand, Bareev, Leko, Adams,
Ivanchuk, Gelfand, Grischuk, Khalifman, Shirov, Morozevich, Svidler,
Azmaiparashvili, Malakhov, Zvjaginsev, J Polgar, Karpov, Bacrot,
Dreev, Short, Lautier, Krasenkov, Smirin, Sutovsky, Van Wely, Sakaev,
Ye Jiangchuan, Akopian, Sokolov, Nikolic, Vallejo Pons, Vaganian,
Lputian, Radjabov, Rublevsky, Tkachiev, Graf-Nenashev, Goldin,
Kasimdzhanov, Georgiev, Volkov, Lutz, Almasi, Macieja, Piket, Pigusov,
Tiviakov

PCA top 50 list (1994): Kasparov, Karpov, Kamsky, Anand, Ivanchuk,
Salov, Piket, Shirov, Kramnik, Gelfand, Yusupov, Lautier, Sokolov,
Ehlvest, J Polgar, Timman, Short, Akopian, Vaganian, Korchnoi, Adams,
Bareev, Tiviakov, Nikolic, Huebner, Georgiev, Dreev, Topalov, Hodgson,
Epishin, Kaidanov, Beliavsky, Gulko, Nunn, Hansen, Speelman, Dolmatov,
Dautov, Malaniuk, Azmaiparashvili, Vladimirov, Nenashev, Illescas,
Magerramov, Khalifman, Romanishin, Gurevich, Oll, Fischer, Andersson

Edo (Rod Edwards, Bradley-Terry algorithm) historical ratings
(1809-1902) top 50 list: Morphy, Steinitz, Em Lasker, Kolisch,
Tarrasch, Paulsen, Neumann, Zukertort, vond der Lasa, Pillsbury,
Anderssen, Chigorin, Winawer, Suhle, Staunton, Blackburne, Maroczy,
Dubois, Bauer, de Vere, Makovetz, Lipshutz, Gunsberg, Weiss, Janowski,
Mackenzie, Schlecther, Mason, Harrwitz, Charousek, von Bardeleben, de
Labourdonnais, Buckle, Burn, Englisch, Rosenthal, Petrov, B Lasker,
Potter, Moehle, Atkins, Goetz, Lipke, Schwarz, Alapin, Bird, Riemann,
Hirschfeld, Lange

Wall's top 50 list (my opinion only): Fischer, Kasparov, Kramnik,
Anand, Topalov, Karpov, Leko, Ivanchuk, Svidler, Capablanca,
Botvinnik, Lasker, Alekhine, Tal, Spaasky, Smyslov, Morphy, Petrosian,
Ljubojevic, Adams, Morozevich, Anderssen, Shirov, Kamsky, Ponomariov,
Euwe, Steinitz, Bareev, Bacrot, Gelfand, J Polgar, Korchnoi,
Blackburne, Timman, Short, Reshevsky, Kasimdzhanov, Bronstein, Keres,
Lautier, Yusupov, Fine, Beliavsky, Portisch, Geller, Khalifman,
Ehlvest, Boleslavsky, Sokolov, Larsen

Top players by Elo rating (all over 2700, 47 players): Kasparov,
Topalov, Kramnik, Anand, Fischer, Karpov, Svidler, Leko, Ivanchuk,
Morozevich, Aronian, Mamedyarov, Adams, Shirov, Radjabov, Kamsky,
Ponomariov, Bareev, J Polgar, Jakovenko, Gelfand, Grischuk, Bacrot,
Navara, Capablanca, Botvinnik, Lasker, Salov, van Wely, Akopian,
Short, Beliavsky, Carlsen, Nisipeanu, Kasimdzhanov, Sokolov, Tal,
Dreev, Krasenkow, Smirin, Khalifman, Azmaiparashvili, Eljanov,
Malakhov Bologan, Sasikiran

Elo's list (1978, 47 players): Capablanca, Botvinnik, Lasker, Tal,
Alekhine, Morphy, Smyslov, Petrosian, Reshevsky, Spassky, Bronstein,
Keres, Korchnoi, Fine, Geller, Boleslavsky, Euwe, Steinitz,
Rubinstein, Najdorf, Pillsbury, Portisch, Timman, Flohr, Gligoric,
Kholmov, Kotov, Larsen, Maroczy, Stein, Averbakh, Nimzovich,
Andersson, Bogoljubov, Furman, Ljubojevic, Szabo, Tarrasch, Mecking,
Polugaevsky, Anderssen, Chigorin, Schlechter, Taimanov, Vidmar, von
der Lasa, Zukertort

Bye
Sanny

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On Oct 21, 7:10 am, Sanny wrote:

Which are the top 5 best players in the world?

What is the rating of each player?

Here is what I think

I suppose Best Player is Anand.
Second best is Kasparov
Third best is Kramnik
Fourth best is Topalov
Fifth best is Karpov

I do not know rating of each I have chosen them as per their
populatity.


Current top 50 (July 2007): Anand, Topalov, Kramnik, Ivanchuk,
Morozevich ....


There's your answer!

PCA top 50 list (1994): Kasparov, Karpov, Kamsky, Anand, Ivanchuk,
Salov ....


Ivanchuk, the Grandmaster who looks and acts like a Ukrainian Nazi war
criminal, may end up as one of those "best players never to win
anything".
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Offramp wrote:

Ivanchuk, the Grandmaster who looks and acts like a Ukrainian Nazi war
criminal, may end up as one of those "best players never to win
anything".


is Ivanchuk a fascist? He seems normal from his public pronoucements.

Here is the answer for the top ranked players at any given moment:
http://chess.liverating.org/

Right now it is:

01 Anand off 2792,0 +9 5 1 1969 id-card
02 Topalov off 2791,0 0 0 0 1975 id-card
03 Carlsen off 2782,0 -4 3 1 1990 id-card
04 Ivanchuk off 2781,9 -4,1 4 1 1969 id-card
05 Morozevich off 2778,8 -8,2 11 1 1977 id-card
06 Kramnik off 2763,0 -9 5 1 1975 id-card
07 Aronian off 2756,3 -0,7 3 1 1982 id-card
08 Radjabov off 2753,8 +2,8 2 1 1987 id-card
09 Leko off 2747,0 0 0 0 1979 id-card
10 Movsesian off 2744,4 +12,4 6 2 1978 id-card

Good to see youth (Carlsen, Topalov, Morozevich, Kramnik) lose to
experience (Anand, Ivanchuk).

RL
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On Oct 21, 10:52 am, raylopez99 wrote:
Offramp wrote:

Ivanchuk, the Grandmaster who looks and acts like a Ukrainian Nazi war
criminal, may end up as one of those "best players never to win
anything".


is Ivanchuk a fascist? He seems normal from his public pronouncements.


I don't know if he is a fascist or not. I doubt it. But he is laden
down with superstitions and neuroses. He has that neolithic monobrow
thing going for him as well. The whole package is quite a sight....A
ticcing brooding wailing kicking sight.
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On Oct 21, 3:58*am, Offramp wrote:
On Oct 21, 7:10 am, Sanny wrote:





Which are the top 5 best players in the world?


What is the rating of each player?


Here is what I think


I suppose Best Player is Anand.
Second best is Kasparov
Third best is Kramnik
Fourth best is Topalov
Fifth best is Karpov


I do not know rating of each I have chosen them as per their
populatity.
Current top 50 (July 2007): Anand, Topalov, Kramnik, Ivanchuk,
Morozevich ....


There's your answer!

PCA top 50 list (1994): Kasparov, Karpov, Kamsky, Anand, Ivanchuk,
Salov ....


Ivanchuk, the Grandmaster who looks and acts like a Ukrainian Nazi war
criminal, may end up as one of those "best players never to win
anything".


Does Ivanchuk have much in the way of political opinions? Admittedly
I know little about him as a person, but I had the impression he was
so obsessed with chess that he knew or cared little about anything
else. What has he said or done that would qualify as "acting like a
war criminal"?


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On Oct 21, 11:10*am, Sanny wrote:
Which are the top 5 best players in the world?


Kasparov is the greatest chess player of all time, with Fischer and
probably Capablanca. (IMHO).

However, since Kasparov has not played competitive chess in quite a
while certainly Anand has a good chance to beat him. Something he
could rarely do in his matches against Kasparov while Kasparov was
actively playing competitve chess. (Especially in classical chess).


What is the rating of each player?

Here is what I think

I suppose Best Player is Anand.
Second best is Kasparov
Third best is Kramnik
Fourth best is Topalov
Fifth best is Karpov

I do not know rating of each I have chosen them as per their
populatity.

Play Chess at:http://www.GetClub.com/Chess.html

From a website I got more details about best players of the world.

Current top 50 (July 2007): Anand, Topalov, Kramnik, Ivnchuk,
Morozevich, Mamedyarov, Leko, Aronian, Radjabov, Jakovenko, Shirov,
Svidler, Gelfand, Grischuk, Adams, Kamsky, Carlsen, Akopian, J Polgar,
Ponomariov, Eljanov, Wang, Bacrot, Alekseev, Bu, Nisipeanu,
Kasimdzhanov, Short, Almasi, Volokitin, Ni, Dominguez-Peres,
Rublevsky, Van Wely, Karjakin, Malakhov, Sasikiran, Milov,
Miroshnichenko, Landa, Movsesian, Sargissian, Vallejo Pons, Sokolov,
Harikrishna, Georgiev, Inarkiev, Krasenkow, Socko, Volkov

Chessmetrics (Sonas) top 50 list: Kasparov, Lasker, Capablanca,
Botvinnik, Fischer, Karpov, Alekhine, Anand, Kramnik, Pillsbury,
Ivanchuk, Korchnoi, Steinitz, Smyslov, Tarrasch, Maroczy, Petrosian,
Rubinstein, Tal, Reshevsky, Keres, Najdorf, Nimzovich, Spassky,
Zukertort, Bronstein, Chigorin, Marshall, Kamsky, Leko, Gelfand,
Salov, Bogoljubow, Beliavsky, Shirov, Geller, Timman, Adams, Fine,
Janowsky, Polugaevsky, Topalov, Schlechter, Portisch, Stein, Euwe,
Flohr, Morozevich, Larsen, Bareev

Roman Krumsieck's top 50 list: Eichborn, Kasparov, Anand, Kramnik,
Ivanchuk, Karpov, Topalov, Svidler, Ponomariov, Leko, Shirov,
Morozevich, Aronian, Grischuk, Adams, Kamsky, Milov, Bareev, Gelfand,
Fischer, Radjabov, J Polgar, Salov, Bacrot, Kasimdzhanov, Mamedyarov,
Short, Akopian, Sasikiran, Dreev, Smirin, M Gurevich, Malakhov, Van
Wely, Sokolov, Khalifman, Azmaiparashvili, Georgiev, Rublevsky,
Korchnoi, Nikolic, McShane, Piket, Yusupov, Beliavsky, Lautier,
Nisipeanu, Nakamura, Naiditsch, Timman

Professional Chess Association (PCA) (WCC) top 50 list (2002):
Kasparov, Kramnik, Topalov, Ponomariov, Anand, Bareev, Leko, Adams,
Ivanchuk, Gelfand, Grischuk, Khalifman, Shirov, Morozevich, Svidler,
Azmaiparashvili, Malakhov, Zvjaginsev, J Polgar, Karpov, Bacrot,
Dreev, Short, Lautier, Krasenkov, Smirin, Sutovsky, Van Wely, Sakaev,
Ye Jiangchuan, Akopian, Sokolov, Nikolic, Vallejo Pons, Vaganian,
Lputian, Radjabov, Rublevsky, Tkachiev, Graf-Nenashev, Goldin,
Kasimdzhanov, Georgiev, Volkov, Lutz, Almasi, Macieja, Piket, Pigusov,
Tiviakov

PCA top 50 list (1994): Kasparov, Karpov, Kamsky, Anand, Ivanchuk,
Salov, Piket, Shirov, Kramnik, Gelfand, Yusupov, Lautier, Sokolov,
Ehlvest, J Polgar, Timman, Short, Akopian, Vaganian, Korchnoi, Adams,
Bareev, Tiviakov, Nikolic, Huebner, Georgiev, Dreev, Topalov, Hodgson,
Epishin, Kaidanov, Beliavsky, Gulko, Nunn, Hansen, Speelman, Dolmatov,
Dautov, Malaniuk, Azmaiparashvili, Vladimirov, Nenashev, Illescas,
Magerramov, Khalifman, Romanishin, Gurevich, Oll, Fischer, Andersson

Edo (Rod Edwards, Bradley-Terry algorithm) historical ratings
(1809-1902) top 50 list: Morphy, Steinitz, Em Lasker, Kolisch,
Tarrasch, Paulsen, Neumann, Zukertort, vond der Lasa, Pillsbury,
Anderssen, Chigorin, Winawer, Suhle, Staunton, Blackburne, Maroczy,
Dubois, Bauer, de Vere, Makovetz, Lipshutz, Gunsberg, Weiss, Janowski,
Mackenzie, Schlecther, Mason, Harrwitz, Charousek, von Bardeleben, de
Labourdonnais, Buckle, Burn, Englisch, Rosenthal, Petrov, B Lasker,
Potter, Moehle, Atkins, Goetz, Lipke, Schwarz, Alapin, Bird, Riemann,
Hirschfeld, Lange

Wall's top 50 list (my opinion only): Fischer, Kasparov, Kramnik,
Anand, Topalov, Karpov, Leko, Ivanchuk, Svidler, Capablanca,
Botvinnik, Lasker, Alekhine, Tal, Spaasky, Smyslov, Morphy, Petrosian,
Ljubojevic, Adams, Morozevich, Anderssen, Shirov, Kamsky, Ponomariov,
Euwe, Steinitz, Bareev, Bacrot, Gelfand, J Polgar, Korchnoi,
Blackburne, Timman, Short, Reshevsky, Kasimdzhanov, Bronstein, Keres,
Lautier, Yusupov, Fine, Beliavsky, Portisch, Geller, Khalifman,
Ehlvest, Boleslavsky, Sokolov, Larsen

Top players by Elo rating (all over 2700, 47 players): Kasparov,
Topalov, Kramnik, Anand, Fischer, Karpov, Svidler, Leko, Ivanchuk,
Morozevich, Aronian, Mamedyarov, Adams, Shirov, Radjabov, Kamsky,
Ponomariov, Bareev, J Polgar, Jakovenko, Gelfand, Grischuk, Bacrot,
Navara, Capablanca, Botvinnik, Lasker, Salov, van Wely, Akopian,
Short, Beliavsky, Carlsen, Nisipeanu, Kasimdzhanov, Sokolov, Tal,
Dreev, Krasenkow, Smirin, Khalifman, Azmaiparashvili, Eljanov,
Malakhov Bologan, Sasikiran

Elo's list (1978, 47 players): Capablanca, Botvinnik, Lasker, Tal,
Alekhine, Morphy, Smyslov, Petrosian, Reshevsky, Spassky, Bronstein,
Keres, Korchnoi, Fine, Geller, Boleslavsky, Euwe, Steinitz,
Rubinstein, Najdorf, Pillsbury, Portisch, Timman, Flohr, Gligoric,
Kholmov, Kotov, Larsen, Maroczy, Stein, Averbakh, Nimzovich,
Andersson, Bogoljubov, Furman, Ljubojevic, Szabo, Tarrasch, Mecking,
Polugaevsky, Anderssen, Chigorin, Schlechter, Taimanov, Vidmar, von
der Lasa, Zukertort

Bye
Sanny

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Does Ivanchuk have much in the way of political opinions? Admittedly
I know little about him as a person, but I had the impression he was
so obsessed with chess that he knew or cared little about anything
else. What has he said or done that would qualify as "acting like a
war criminal"?


He looks and behaves like Rudolf Hess in Spandau.
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Offramp schrieb:
Does Ivanchuk have much in the way of political opinions? Admittedly
I know little about him as a person, but I had the impression he was
so obsessed with chess that he knew or cared little about anything
else. What has he said or done that would qualify as "acting like a
war criminal"?


He looks and behaves like Rudolf Hess in Spandau.

hm.. how exactly did hess look and behave? i just remember pictures on
tv of an old imprisoned man. just from looking you couldnt tell he
committed atrocities.
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On Oct 21, 2:10*am, Sanny wrote:
Which are the top 5 best players in the world?

What is the rating of each player?

Here is what I think

I suppose Best Player is Anand.
Second best is Kasparov
Third best is Kramnik
Fourth best is Topalov
Fifth best is Karpov

I do not know rating of each I have chosen them as per their
populatity.


Completely wrong.

The best player in the world right now is Magnus Carlsen of Norway.

Sam Sloan
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On Oct 21, 6:48*pm, Tobias Heidelmann [email protected]
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Offramp schrieb: * Does Ivanchuk have much in the way of political opinions? Admittedly
I know little about him as a person, but I had the impression he was
so obsessed with chess that he knew or cared little about anything
else. What has he said or done that would qualify as "acting like a
war criminal"?


He looks and behaves like Rudolf Hess in Spandau.


hm.. how exactly did hess look and behave? i just remember pictures on
tv of an old imprisoned man. just from looking you couldnt tell he
committed atrocities.


Did Hess ever commit any atrocities? Granted, he was a shameless
(and clueless) shill for Hitler, but I don't recall that he ever was
involved in any mass executions and such. Once the war started he was
pretty much out of the picture, which is why he pulled his ridiculous
stunt of flying to England.
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