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Old December 11th 08, 07:39 PM posted to rec.games.chess.computer
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Default Sanny and his GetClub - why do you bother ??

It's 6 months or so since I looked on here, and see that Sanny is still
going on about his GetClub and people are still wasting their time
playing it, and posting analysis. He still prattles on about how good it
is on one level, and when someone beats it on that level, he tells them
it would beat them on next level. Nothing seems to change.


Perhaps someone could explain the motivation for helping someone who
seems to take little advice, how to improve his program.


Perhaps I am missing something, but I can believe people waste so much
time with getclub.

Yours, rather perplexed!!
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Old December 12th 08, 05:09 AM posted to rec.games.chess.computer
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On Dec 12, 12:39*am, Dave wrote:
It's 6 months or so since I looked on here, and see that Sanny is still
going on about hisGetCluband people are still wasting their time
playing it, and posting analysis. He still prattles on about how good it
is on one level, and when someone beats it on that level, he tells them
it would beat them on next level. Nothing seems to change.


My best guess is you have not played at GetClub recently. Only those
players who play at GetClub know how good it is.

Try playing with Beginner & Easy Levels and see how it kills its
opponents. It plays very nice games with each increase in level.

Bye
Sanny

Play Chess at: http://www.GetClub.com/Chess.html


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Old December 12th 08, 08:22 AM posted to rec.games.chess.computer
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Sanny schrieb:
Try playing with Beginner & Easy Levels and see how it kills its
opponents. It plays very nice games with each increase in level.


Erm, no.

Each level just looses as miserably against me as the last. I even gave
it white, as you claimed it plays better with white... I really just
needed to move pieces about a bit and wait for the computer to throw
away pawns or minor pieces for nothing much:

White: Beginner - Black: myself
1.e4 c5 2.Nf3 e6 3.Bd3 Nf6 4.e5 Nd5 5.Be4 Nc6 6.Bxd5 exd5 7.Qe2 Be7
8.Nc3 d4 9.Nb5 0-0 10.Qe4 a6 11.Nbxd4 cxd4 12.Nxd4 d5 13.exd6 Bxd6
14.Nxc6 bxc6 15.Qxc6 Re8+ 16.Kd1 Qe7 17.Qf3 Bb7 18.Qd3 Rad8 19.f3 Bc5
20.Qc4 Rd4 21.Qf1 Rd6 22.c4 Re6 23.a3 a5 24.d4 Bxd4 25.Rb1 Qd7 26.Qd3
Rd6 27.Kc2 Bxb2 28.Qxd6 Qxd6 29.Rxb2 Re2+ 30.Kb3 Qd3+ 31.Ka2 Qxc4+
32.Kb1 Qd3+ 33.Ka1 Qxa3+ 34.Kb1 Qd3+ 35.Ka1 Qc3 36.Rd1 h6 37.Kb1 Rxb2+
38.Bxb2 Qb3 39.Rd8+ Kh7 40.Rd7 a4 41.Kc1 a3 42.Ba1 Bc6 43.Rd2 Ba4 44.Bd4
a2 45.Rxa2 Qxa2 46.Bb2 Qb3 47.Kb1 Bb5 48.Kc1 Bd3 49.Kd2 Qxb2+ 50.Kxd3
Qxg2 51.Ke3 Qxh2 52.f4 Qg3+ 53.Ke4 h5 54.Ke5 h4 55.Kd5 h3 56.f5 h2
57.Kc4 0-1

White: Easy - Black: myself
1.d4 Nf6 2.c4 e6 3.Nc3 Bb4 4.a3 Bxc3+ 5.bxc3 b6 6.Nf3 Nc6 7.Bf4 Ba6
8.Qa4 Na5 9.c5 Nd5 10.cxb6 axb6 11.Be5 f6 12.e4 Nxc3 13.Qb4 Bxf1 14.Kxf1
Nxe4 15.Bf4 Kf7 16.Re1 d5 17.Re3 c5 18.dxc5 bxc5 19.Qb5 g5 20.Bg3 h5
21.h4 g4 22.Nh2 Nc4 23.Rd3 Qe7 24.a4 Ra7 25.Qc6 Qb7 26.Qxb7+ Rxb7 27.Ke1
Ra8 28.Nf1 Rxa4 29.Rd1 Ra2 30.Rc1 Rbb2 31.Rg1 Re2+ 32.Kd1 Nxg3 33.Rxc4
Nxf1 34.Rxf1 dxc4 35.Rg1 Reb2 36.Kc1 c3 37.Rh1 0-1

White: Normal - Black: myself
1.f4 d6 2.e4 d5 3.Bb5+ c6 4.Bd3 dxe4 5.Bxe4 Nf6 6.Bd3 g6 7.Nf3 Bg4 8.Nc3
Bg7 9.0-0 0-0 10.h3 Bxf3 11.Rxf3 Nbd7 12.Bc4 Nc5 13.d4 Nce4 14.Rb1 Nd6
15.Bd3 e6 16.Be3 Qd7 17.a3 Rfd8 18.Qc1 Kh8 19.Bf2 Ng8 20.Na2 Ne7 21.h4
h5 22.Nc3 Ndf5 23.Ne2 Nxd4 24.Bxd4 Bxd4+ 25.Nxd4 Qxd4+ 26.Qe3 Qxe3+
27.Rxe3 Nd5 28.Re4 Nf6 29.Ra4 a6 30.Rb4 b5 31.Rb3 c5 32.Rc3 c4 33.Be2
Rd2 34.Bf3 Rad8 35.Bb7 R8d6 36.Bf3 Nd5 37.Bxd5 exd5 38.Rc1 d4 39.Rf3 Re6
40.Rf2 Ree2 41.Rxe2 Rxe2 42.Kf1 Re4 43.g3 Kg7 44.Rd1 f5 45.Kf2 Kf7
46.Kf3 Ke6 47.Rf1 Kd5 48.Rd1 Re3+ 49.Kf2 Ke4 50.Rc1 a5 51.Rh1 d3
52.cxd3+ cxd3 53.Rd1 Re2+ 54.Kg1 Rxb2 55.a4 b4 56.Kf1 b3 57.Kg1 Rc2
58.Rb1 b2 59.Rxb2 Rxb2 60.Kf1 Ke3 0-1
and now the computer claims it played the illegal move 61.Kf2 ???

Oh, and by the way, Normal takes about 4-10 minutes per move.

I also don't seem to be the only one winning all the time the first 10
games shown on the webpage show a score of 10 - 0 against GetClub. I
conclude it just always looses unless people blunder straight into a
mate due to distractions.
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Old December 12th 08, 08:40 AM posted to rec.games.chess.computer
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A few things were corrected today Let me know if the game plays well
now.

Bye
Sanny

Play Chess at: http://www.GetClub.com/Chess.html
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Old December 12th 08, 01:37 PM posted to rec.games.chess.computer
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Default The Sanny Loop

While(true){
sanny says: "GetClub improved x times today! Now stronger than ever!"

Someone says: "GetClub is still crappy because it (pick one or more
points)
fails miserably | does not play by the rules | crashes .

Sanny says (pick one)"
Bug was found and removed. |
You have too many applications running."

Sanny says: " Now GetClub stronger than
ever!!"
}
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