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Default Nf3 is the best, perfect first move

On Feb 2, 12:31*am, "John Robis" wrote:
1. Nf3

This is the first, perfect initial move that will continue along a path to
solving the game.





what do you think about the moves 1.Nf3 e5?

Is there a name for this opening?
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Default Nf3 is the best, perfect first move

On Feb 19, 9:33*am, greg wrote:
On Feb 2, 12:31*am, "John Robis" wrote:

1. Nf3


This is the first, perfect initial move that will continue along a path to
solving the game.


what do you think about the moves 1.Nf3 *e5?

Is there a name for this opening?


"The Oxford Companion to Chess" (2nd edition) gives the moves and
names for 1,327 openings, variations and sub-variations, but 1.Nf3 e5
is not mentioned. It reminds me a bit of the Irish Gambit (1.e4 e5
2.Nf3 Nc6 3.Nxe5??). I suppose if White is not paying attention it
could transpose into a normal double-KP line or reversed Alekhine's
Defense, but I suspect after the natural 2.Nxe5 most players of the
black side would say "Oh, hell!" or some such expletive, and the line
would be named accordingly.

Interestingly, in the oldest example I can find of this line in
actual play, the black side is handled by none other than world
champion Emanuel Lasker:

[Event "USA tour sim"]
[Site "USA"]
[Date "1907.??.??"]
[Round "?"]
[White "NN"]
[Black "Lasker, Emanuel"]
[Result "0-1"]
[ECO "A04"]
[PlyCount "45"]
[EventDate "1907.??.??"]
[EventType "simul"]
[EventRounds "1"]
[EventCountry "USA"]
[Source "ChessBase"]
[SourceDate "1998.11.10"]

1. Nf3 e5 2. Nxe5 c5 3. d4 cxd4 4. Qxd4 d6 5. Nf3 Nc6 6. Qd1 Nf6 7.
Nc3 d5 8. Bg5 d4 9. Bxf6 gxf6 10. Ne4 f5 11. Ned2 f4 12. c3 dxc3 13.
bxc3 Bg7 14. Ne4 Qa5 15. Qd2 O-O 16. Rc1 Bf5 17. Nd6 Rad8 18. Nxb7 Qa3
19. Nxd8 Rxd8 20. Nd4 Nxd4 21. cxd4 Rxd4 22. Rc3 Qb4 23. Rd3 0-1.
Black has a forced mate: 23...Qb1+ 24.Qd1 Rxd3 25.exd3 Bc3+ 26.Ke2
Bg4+ 27.f3 Qxa2+ 28.Qd2 Qxd2#

The game was played in a simul in Topeka, Kansas on 13 June 1907,
shortly after Lasker's title match with Marshall. Black's play is so
strange that I would normally doubt the game's authenticity, but it
was published in Lasker's own chess magazine, vol. 6 p. 151, according
to Whyld's "Collected Games of Emanuel Lasker."
Lasker is the only really prominent master I can find playing this
line on the CB MegaDatabase 2005. The ChessBase statistics for Black
are not encouraging: in 30 games White scored +22 -7 =1, and in the
games where White played 2.Nxe5 the score was +20 -5 =0.
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Default Nf3 is the best, perfect first move

greg wrote:
On Feb 2, 12:31 am, "John Robis" wrote:
1. Nf3

This is the first, perfect initial move that will continue along a path to
solving the game.





what do you think about the moves 1.Nf3 e5?

Is there a name for this opening?


Alekhine's defense reversed?
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On Feb 2, 12:31*am, "John Robis" wrote:
1. Nf3

This is the first, perfect initial move that will continue along a path to
solving the game.





what do you think about the moves 1.Nf3 e5?

Is there a name for this opening?
I agree. But do not know the name
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