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long algebraic notation
I want to teach my son to keep score using long algebraic notation,
for example 1. e2e4 Ng8f6 2. Nb1c3 d7d5 I know that short algebraic notation is accepted as a method of keeping score in USCF tournaments. What about long algebraic? 
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long algebraic notation
On 6 Mar 2007 06:26:17 0800, "Beliavsky" wrote:
I want to teach my son to keep score using long algebraic notation, for example 1. e2e4 Ng8f6 2. Nb1c3 d7d5 I know that short algebraic notation is accepted as a method of keeping score in USCF tournaments. What about long algebraic? I'm pretty sure that long algebraic is accepted too.  Replace you know what by j to email 
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Beliavsky wrote:
I want to teach my son to keep score using long algebraic notation, Why? Why not teach him to use the notation that's used in all the books? Dave.  David Richerby Disgusting Cat (TM): it's like www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~davidr/ a cuddly pet but it'll turn your stomach! 
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On 06 Mar 2007 15:49:34 +0000 (GMT), David Richerby
wrote: Why? Why not teach him to use the notation that's used in all the books? Not quite all. Chernov's "Capablanca's Best chess endings" uses long algebraic. :)  Replace you know what by j to email 
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On Mar 6, 9:49 am, David Richerby
wrote: Beliavsky wrote: I want to teach my son to keep score using long algebraic notation, Why? Why not teach him to use the notation that's used in all the books? I think that some of the Russians  again I am relying on memory  like Botvinnik (?) preferred long algebraic; at least one of the arguments was for accuracy and perhaps even better visualization of "the board in your head"  and of course, if you know long algebraic, short shouldn't be hard to read.... But that's just an "I think" based on something I read years ago, so I make no claims as to its accuracy. And unless something has changed, I think all forms of algebraic are acceptable  at least in the old days, when I played, I always used German algebraic as I learned to play chess there and when there were scoresheet disputes, my notation was seen as acceptable. I would think that it would discourage foreign players from playing in USCF events if short English descriptive were mandated... but that's a TD/rules question. 
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SBD wrote:
David Richerby wrote: Beliavsky wrote: I want to teach my son to keep score using long algebraic notation, Why? Why not teach him to use the notation that's used in all the books? I think that some of the Russians  again I am relying on memory  like Botvinnik (?) preferred long algebraic; at least one of the arguments was for accuracy and perhaps even better visualization of "the board in your head"  and of course, if you know long algebraic, short shouldn't be hard to read.... Dvoretsky's columns at chesscafe.com use long algebraic for the main line and short algebraic for the notes, which would tend to support your recollection. Dave.  David Richerby CyberLotion (TM): it's like a www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~davidr/ soothing hand lotion that exists only in your computer! 
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On 6 Mar 2007 08:53:00 0800, "SBD" wrote:
that it would discourage foreign players from playing in USCF events if short English descriptive were mandated... but that's a TD/rules question. The USCF rulebook (chapter 3) says that FIDE recognizes only algebraic (but it doesn't say anything about long alg.). USCF supports the use of a single worldwide system but recognizes other systems such as descriptive and computer notation. It does on to describe the standard algebraic, FAN, long algebraic, abbreviated algebraic, computer notation, English DN, Spanish descriptive, and international correspondence. I assume that any of those are acceptable to the USCF. In particular, I can't see any problem whatsoever with using long algebraic.  Replace you know what by j to email 
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On Tue, 06 Mar 2007 13:16:18 0500, Jud McCranie
wrote: The USCF rulebook (chapter 3) says that FIDE recognizes only algebraic Also, earlier in the book, rule 15A says that algebraic is standard but that descriptive or computer notation is permitted.  Replace you know what by j to email 
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On Mar 6, 12:16 pm, Jud McCranie
wrote: On 6 Mar 2007 08:53:00 0800, "SBD" wrote: that it would discourage foreign players from playing in USCF events if short English descriptive were mandated... but that's a TD/rules question. The USCF rulebook (chapter 3) says that FIDE recognizes only algebraic (but it doesn't say anything about long alg.). USCF supports the use of a single worldwide system but recognizes other systems such as descriptive and computer notation. I wonder if that single worldwide system is the German one, which is what we call it in the problem world. For example, I edit at a problem magazine called Orbit that uses English as the language of choice but German notation  K,D,L,S,B. 
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On 6 Mar 2007 10:45:40 0800, "SBD" wrote:
I wonder if that single worldwide system is the German one, which is what we call it in the problem world. I think it just means "algebraic", and doesn't get into any of the variations or languages.  Replace you know what by j to email 
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