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You have probably heard that Vishy Anand has now a planetoid named after
himself:
http://en.chessbase.com/post/going-v...oid-vishyanand

You can name planets as well as craters on Mars he
http://www.uwingu.com/

For a small sum, I have named some craters on Mars myself. Naming
planets is more important, so it occurs by nomination and voting. So we
chess players should really nominate "Capablanca" or whomever and vote
for that planet name. Now that Anand has a planet named after himself,
I'm sure that Kasparov wants one, too.

M. Winther
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"M Winther" wrote:

You have probably heard that Vishy Anand has now a planetoid named
after
himself:
http://en.chessbase.com/post/going-v...oid-vishyanand

You can name planets as well as craters on Mars he
http://www.uwingu.com/


This is a scam, you know. You might as well choose a crater on
Mars, write down the name you want it to have on a piece of paper,
fold the paper up and put it in your pocket. You will have a crater
on Mars named as you want, it'll be just as real as anything you'll
get from that site and you'll have saved the money you'd have paid
to that scam site.

For a small sum, I have named some craters on Mars myself.


Maybe you actually don't get it. Or maybe that's a Web site you
have an interest in?

Naming planets is more important, so it occurs by nomination and
voting.


LOL!

So we chess players should really nominate "Capablanca" or whomever
and
vote for that planet name. Now that Anand has a planet named after
himself, I'm sure that Kasparov wants one, too.


I'm sure that Kasparov is far too intelligent to fall for a scam
like that.

Eugene Delmar's Ghost


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"M Winther" wrote:

You have probably heard that Vishy Anand has now a planetoid named
after
himself:
http://en.chessbase.com/post/going-v...oid-vishyanand

You can name planets as well as craters on Mars he
http://www.uwingu.com/


This is a scam, you know. You might as well choose a crater on
Mars, write down the name you want it to have on a piece of paper,
fold the paper up and put it in your pocket. You will have a crater
on Mars named as you want, it'll be just as real as anything you'll
get from that site and you'll have saved the money you'd have paid
to that scam site.

For a small sum, I have named some craters on Mars myself.


Maybe you actually don't get it. Or maybe that's a Web site you
have an interest in?

Naming planets is more important, so it occurs by nomination and
voting.


LOL!

So we chess players should really nominate "Capablanca" or whomever
and
vote for that planet name. Now that Anand has a planet named after
himself, I'm sure that Kasparov wants one, too.


I'm sure that Kasparov is far too intelligent to fall for a scam
like that.

Eugene Delmar's Ghost


No, the Mars One mission has begun using the Uwingu Mars map and will
use it on the Mars journey. It is quite likely that these names will be
accepted by the scientific community, at least provisionally, otherwise
the craters on Mars won't be named in a thousand years.

M. Winther



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"M Winther" wrote:

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No, the Mars One mission has begun using the Uwingu Mars map and will
use it on the Mars journey.


Oh, like that's supposed to lend credibility to this scam?

So somebody at a rather shaky non-profit made a deal with some
folks who are naming craters on Mars, for a fee, and that means
this crater naming scam is legit? Not quite a logical chain there.

The Mars One boosters are naively optimistic about that mission.
The odds are that if they keep to their published plans they will
end up killing some people pretty quickly.

What will probably happen is that after a while the Mars One people
will either abandon the project or re-purpose it. The Mars One
project will never get to Mars to play with these maps with silly
names on them.

It is quite likely that these names will be accepted by the scientific
community, at least provisionally,


Says who? There have been companies selling naming rights to stars
for quite a few years now, and the scientific community won't have
anything to do with those names or those companies. In fact the
scientists who've bothered to say anything about it have laughed at
the idea that some company can give names to stars based on people
paying them money for the privilege.

The scientific community is not going to accept crater names from
some company based on someone paying for it. Those people paying to
name craters are being sold fantasies.

otherwise the craters on Mars won't be named in a thousand years.


Did you know that some of the surface features on Mars already have
names? It'll get done by the IAU, and sooner than you assert.


Eugene Delmar's Ghost

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"M Winther" wrote:

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No, the Mars One mission has begun using the Uwingu Mars map and will
use it on the Mars journey.


Oh, like that's supposed to lend credibility to this scam?

So somebody at a rather shaky non-profit made a deal with some
folks who are naming craters on Mars, for a fee, and that means
this crater naming scam is legit? Not quite a logical chain there.

The Mars One boosters are naively optimistic about that mission.
The odds are that if they keep to their published plans they will
end up killing some people pretty quickly.

What will probably happen is that after a while the Mars One people
will either abandon the project or re-purpose it. The Mars One
project will never get to Mars to play with these maps with silly
names on them.

It is quite likely that these names will be accepted by the
scientific
community, at least provisionally,


Says who? There have been companies selling naming rights to stars
for quite a few years now, and the scientific community won't have
anything to do with those names or those companies. In fact the
scientists who've bothered to say anything about it have laughed at
the idea that some company can give names to stars based on people
paying them money for the privilege.

The scientific community is not going to accept crater names from
some company based on someone paying for it. Those people paying to
name craters are being sold fantasies.

otherwise the craters on Mars won't be named in a thousand years.


Did you know that some of the surface features on Mars already have
names? It'll get done by the IAU, and sooner than you assert.


Eugene Delmar's Ghost


The point is that the scientific community is funded by Uwingu. So it is
likely that the crater names will be accepted.

These IAU surface features are present on the Uwingu map and have their
names according to the IAU. But it is just a fragment of the craters.
There remains millions of craters to be named, which have not been named
by IAU.

M. Winther



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In article
"M Winther" wrote:

"Anonymous" skrev i meddelandet
...
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Hash: SHA512

In article
"M Winther" wrote:

....
No, the Mars One mission has begun using the Uwingu Mars map and will
use it on the Mars journey.


Oh, like that's supposed to lend credibility to this scam?

So somebody at a rather shaky non-profit made a deal with some
folks who are naming craters on Mars, for a fee, and that means
this crater naming scam is legit? Not quite a logical chain there.

The Mars One boosters are naively optimistic about that mission.
The odds are that if they keep to their published plans they will
end up killing some people pretty quickly.

What will probably happen is that after a while the Mars One people
will either abandon the project or re-purpose it. The Mars One
project will never get to Mars to play with these maps with silly
names on them.

It is quite likely that these names will be accepted by the
scientific
community, at least provisionally,


Says who? There have been companies selling naming rights to stars
for quite a few years now, and the scientific community won't have
anything to do with those names or those companies. In fact the
scientists who've bothered to say anything about it have laughed at
the idea that some company can give names to stars based on people
paying them money for the privilege.

The scientific community is not going to accept crater names from
some company based on someone paying for it. Those people paying to
name craters are being sold fantasies.

otherwise the craters on Mars won't be named in a thousand years.


Did you know that some of the surface features on Mars already have
names? It'll get done by the IAU, and sooner than you assert.


Eugene Delmar's Ghost


The point is that the scientific community is funded by Uwingu.


No, it's not! Uwingu is a for-profit company.

Anyway, Uwingu doesn't have nearly enough money to fund the
scientific community.

So it is likely that the crater names will be accepted.


You might like that to be the case, but I think that it us very
unlikely that worldwide scientists are going to accept the idea of
naming craters on Mars "Uncle George" or "Fluffy the Beloved
Pussycat." And why would the scientists of the world decide that
this for-profit company gets to be the entity that could tell them
the names of craters anyway? Did you ever think of that?

The IAU posted a statement about this Uwingu scam about 13 months
ago. That statement is he
http://www.iau.org/news/pressreleases/detail/iau1402/

That press release says, in part, "Recently initiatives that
capitalise on the publicís interest in space and astronomy have
proliferated, some putting a price tag on naming space objects and
their features, such as Mars craters. The International
Astronomical Union (IAU) would like to emphasise that such
initiatives go against the spirit of free and equal access to
space, as well as against internationally recognised standards.
Hence no purchased names can ever be used on official maps and
globes. The IAU encourages the public to become involved in the
naming process of space objects and their features by following the
officially recognised (and free) methods."

That doesn't sound like the IAU cozying up to whomever runs Uwingu.
Anyone taking the evidence into consideration would have to
conclude that it is very UNlikely that the paid for crater names
will be accepted by anyone but the Uwingu scammeers and the suckers
who send them money.

These IAU surface features are present on the Uwingu map and have their
names according to the IAU.


How nice.

But it is just a fragment of the craters.


So what?

There remains millions of craters to be named, which have not been named
by IAU.


And therefore what? Does that mean that Uwingu gets to name them
and make them the official IAU names? Of course not.

This is just exactly like the "name a star" scam of some years ago.


Eugene Delmar's Ghost

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"M Winther" wrote:

"Anonymous" skrev i meddelandet
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In article
"M Winther" wrote:

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No, the Mars One mission has begun using the Uwingu Mars map and
will
use it on the Mars journey.

Oh, like that's supposed to lend credibility to this scam?

So somebody at a rather shaky non-profit made a deal with some
folks who are naming craters on Mars, for a fee, and that means
this crater naming scam is legit? Not quite a logical chain there.

The Mars One boosters are naively optimistic about that mission.
The odds are that if they keep to their published plans they will
end up killing some people pretty quickly.

What will probably happen is that after a while the Mars One people
will either abandon the project or re-purpose it. The Mars One
project will never get to Mars to play with these maps with silly
names on them.

It is quite likely that these names will be accepted by the
scientific
community, at least provisionally,

Says who? There have been companies selling naming rights to stars
for quite a few years now, and the scientific community won't have
anything to do with those names or those companies. In fact the
scientists who've bothered to say anything about it have laughed at
the idea that some company can give names to stars based on people
paying them money for the privilege.

The scientific community is not going to accept crater names from
some company based on someone paying for it. Those people paying to
name craters are being sold fantasies.

otherwise the craters on Mars won't be named in a thousand years.

Did you know that some of the surface features on Mars already have
names? It'll get done by the IAU, and sooner than you assert.


Eugene Delmar's Ghost


The point is that the scientific community is funded by Uwingu.


No, it's not! Uwingu is a for-profit company.

Anyway, Uwingu doesn't have nearly enough money to fund the
scientific community.

So it is likely that the crater names will be accepted.


You might like that to be the case, but I think that it us very
unlikely that worldwide scientists are going to accept the idea of
naming craters on Mars "Uncle George" or "Fluffy the Beloved
Pussycat." And why would the scientists of the world decide that
this for-profit company gets to be the entity that could tell them
the names of craters anyway? Did you ever think of that?

The IAU posted a statement about this Uwingu scam about 13 months
ago. That statement is he
http://www.iau.org/news/pressreleases/detail/iau1402/

That press release says, in part, "Recently initiatives that
capitalise on the publicís interest in space and astronomy have
proliferated, some putting a price tag on naming space objects and
their features, such as Mars craters. The International
Astronomical Union (IAU) would like to emphasise that such
initiatives go against the spirit of free and equal access to
space, as well as against internationally recognised standards.
Hence no purchased names can ever be used on official maps and
globes. The IAU encourages the public to become involved in the
naming process of space objects and their features by following the
officially recognised (and free) methods."

That doesn't sound like the IAU cozying up to whomever runs Uwingu.
Anyone taking the evidence into consideration would have to
conclude that it is very UNlikely that the paid for crater names
will be accepted by anyone but the Uwingu scammeers and the suckers
who send them money.

These IAU surface features are present on the Uwingu map and have
their
names according to the IAU.


How nice.

But it is just a fragment of the craters.


So what?

There remains millions of craters to be named, which have not been
named
by IAU.


And therefore what? Does that mean that Uwingu gets to name them
and make them the official IAU names? Of course not.

This is just exactly like the "name a star" scam of some years ago.


Eugene Delmar's Ghost


Maybe it's merely a ploy, but it's a fun thing. Be happy, join humanity!

M.



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