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Carlsen missed winning chances in game 3 and 4. He will have white in game 5 but black in game 6 and 7. So he needs to make something happen today.

Carlsen – Karjakin (game 5)

1. e4 e5 2. Nf3 Nc6 3. Bc4 We have an Italian today!

3…Bc5 4. 0-0 Nf6 5. d3 0-0 6. a4 Aronian defeated Tomashevsky with this line.

6…d6 7. c3 a6 Now we transpose back into a more popular line of the Italian.

8. b4 Ba7 9. Re1 Anand and others played 9. Bg5. Carlsen decided to go into a more obscure line.

9…Ne7 I cannot find any game with this. So we perhaps enter into new territory.

10. Nbd2 Now we transposed back into a position previously played.

10…Ng6 A move played by Hammer before with black.

11. d4 No serious player played this line. Hammer’s opponent played 11. Nf1. Karjakin is thinking for the 1st time. Over 6 minutes so far.

11…c6 12. h3 Just normal logical moves. Carlsen once again chooses to have minimal advantage out of the opening and focus more on middlegame/endgame. Carlsen wants to have success today as he will have black in game 6 & 7 per FIDE regulation. Chess fans watching at home sometimes do not realize how hard these players prepare for a WC match. It is brutal dedication. I prepared for that moment my whole life. But I spent around a year to fully focus on my World Championship match. I prepared not only chess but worked very hard on my physical/mental toughness. You have to give 110% if you want to be WC! Karjakin spent over 17 minutes so far after 12. h3. Key decision on how to proceed with the game.

12…exd4 13. cxd4 I think black may want to play d5. Otherwise, it makes no sense to play 12…exd4.

13…Nxe4 Wow! Unexpected 🙂 Now white has a choice to play 14. Nxe4 allowing the 14…d5 fork or play 14. Bxf7+. I think Carlsen may play 14. Nxe4 d5 15. Bg5 f616. Bxf6 gxf6 17. Bb3. At least this will give white an imbalance position.

14. Bxf7+ Rxf7 15. Nxe4 Carlsen chose the other path. This tells you that it is hard to guess what is in Carlsen’s mind 🙂

15…d5 Best move for Carlsen now is 16. Nc5. After around 15 minutes, Carlsen played this move.

16. Nc5 This will be another loooooooooong grinding fight so be prepared for another marathon 🙂

16…h6 17. Ra3 Even though the advantage is small, I think it is very comfortable for Carlsen to grind out this position. It fits his style. He wants to make Karjakin suffer for another 6-7 hours 🙂

17…Bf5 Now we have to expect Carlsen to double his rooks with 18. Rae3
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Live Gm commentary is buy Gm Delchev
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On Thursday, November 17, 2016 at 4:08:07 PM UTC-5, wrote:
Live Gm commentary is buy Gm Delchev


The drama, such as it is, has to do with time — at move 19 Carlsen has 45 mins, Karjakin 31. Carlsen seems to have missed a trick from the following analysis and computers give the game as equal after the current play:—

17... Bf5 ( Fighting for the file with 17... Re7 is only working in white favour as rook e7 has important defensive functions 18. Rae3 Rxe3 19. Rxe3 Bxc5 (19... Qf8 20. Qe1 Bf5 21. Nxb7) 20. bxc5 Bf5 21. Qb3 Qd7 and now white rises the pressure with 22. g4 Be6 (22... Bxg4 23. hxg4 Qxg4+ 24. Kf1 Nf4 25. Re7) 23. Ne5 Nxe5 24. Rxe5 Re8 25. f4 Bf7 26. f5)
18. Ne5 After almost 20 minutes of thought Carlsen suddenly changed the course. It is small secret for me what he didn't like in the planned (18. Rae3 Qf6 19. Ne5 Nxe5 20. dxe5 Qh4 21. e6 Re7 22. Rf3 and position becomes tricky - for example 22... Rf8 23. Rf4 and black suffer material loss.)
18... Nxe5 19. dxe5 Black is ready for counter actions,good options are 19....a5 or even 19...Qh4 looks great with the small trick 20 e6 Be6!
19... Qh4 *
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19...Qh4 looks great with the small trick 20 e6 Be6!

played moves
19... Qh4 20. Rf3 Bxc5 21. bxc5 Re8 22. Rf4 Qe7 23. Qd4 Ref8 *

the time has now pretty much equalized

Computer says

(24. Rf3 Be4 25. Rxf7 Rxf7 26. Kh2 Bf5 27. Re3 Qe6 28. Bd2 Re7 29. f3 g5 30. f4 gxf4 31. Qxf4 Kh7 32. Rg3 Rg7 33. Rxg7+ Kxg7 34. g4 Be4 35. Bc1 Bc2 36. Be3 Be4 37. Bd2 Bc2 38. Kg1)

And Carlsen plays 24. Rf3

[I invited someone else to take over this commentary or report since I have to get up early tomorrow]

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Now here we go into the mysterious endgame where even GM commentary gets scarce — the options seems to be to now draw, or for Carlsen to engage in a long endgame with opposite colored bishops to see if his opponent slips in an otherwise equal position — recent moves have been

24. Rf3 Be4 25. Rxf7 Qxf7 26. f3 Bf5 27. Kh2 Be6 28. Re2 *

otherwise Karjakin has 17 moves and counting down and Carlsen 29


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On Thursday, November 17, 2016 at 5:04:25 PM UTC-5, wrote:
Now here we go into the mysterious endgame where even GM commentary gets scarce — the options seems to be to now draw, or for Carlsen to engage in a long endgame with opposite colored bishops to see if his opponent slips in an otherwise equal position — recent moves have been

24. Rf3 Be4 25. Rxf7 Qxf7 26. f3 Bf5 27. Kh2 Be6 28. Re2 *

otherwise Karjakin has 17 moves and counting down and Carlsen 29


i have to sign out now, but looks like carlsen missed his chance in this game, now he has 2 blacks
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