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Old November 9th 04, 12:57 PM
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Which is better?

Is it better to play 1.e4 on the first move or 1.d4/1.c4 to lead to
closed positions on the first move?
Since Kramnik is now playing 1.e4, does that mean that it is better?

Why did he change?
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Old November 10th 04, 09:46 AM
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Which is better?

Is it better to play 1.e4 on the first move or 1.d4/1.c4 to lead to
closed positions on the first move?
Since Kramnik is now playing 1.e4, does that mean that it is better?
Why did he change?


Kramnik changed because he was bored of playing always the same openings...

1.e4 is the best move because, with a tempo up, it's better to play open
position.
1.d4 is the best move because the pawn is already defended.
So both are the best moves.

Hope this helps...

Luigi Caselli


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Old November 10th 04, 04:38 PM
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Which is better?


1 d4 is less risky.
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Old November 10th 04, 06:31 PM
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Both are dead draw if black plays perfect. (Or if drawnik plays white)

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Which is better?

Is it better to play 1.e4 on the first move or 1.d4/1.c4 to lead to
closed positions on the first move?
Since Kramnik is now playing 1.e4, does that mean that it is better?

Why did he change?



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Old November 10th 04, 09:52 PM
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"bruno de baenst" wrote:

Both are dead draw if black plays perfect. (Or if drawnik plays white)



Proof?

--Harold Buck


draw margin, common sense, opinion of all chess greats, ...


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Old November 11th 04, 11:35 AM
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"Harold Buck" schreef in bericht
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In article ,
"bruno de baenst" wrote:



"Harold Buck" schreef in bericht
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In article ,
"bruno de baenst" wrote:

Both are dead draw if black plays perfect. (Or if drawnik plays

white)



Proof?

--Harold Buck


draw margin, common sense, opinion of all chess greats, ...



You obviously have no understanding of the meaning of the word "proof."
What you mention are all suggestive, but by no means prove that the game
is a draw with perfect play.

In fact, if black plays perfect and white blunders, why do you think the
result will be a draw?

--Harold Buck


1) Ok, you can't prove it (not with current technology anyway) but you can
assume it is true due to draw margin , common sense, opinions of all chess
greats, ... .
2) If white makes a big blunder then he loses , but as you already knew I
assumed white also plays perfect.
3) You sure like to nitpick.




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Old November 11th 04, 12:43 PM
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Both have about the same winning percentage at the master level. I don't
know about results at the amateur level.
I'm of the opinion that amateurs prefer K/pawn openings more than Q/pawn
openings because the former leads more to calculations involving material
(tactics) whereas the latter leads to the more difficult to find calculations
involving space (positional). It is a bit easier to do the "I take, he takes"
stuff than to find an otherwise nothing move that restricts your opponent in
some way.

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Old November 11th 04, 03:45 PM
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On Thu, 11 Nov 2004 11:35:08 GMT, "bruno de baenst"
wrote:

What you mention are all suggestive, but by no means prove that the game
is a draw with perfect play.


1) Ok, you can't prove it (not with current technology anyway) but you can
assume it is true due to draw margin , common sense, opinions of all chess
greats, ... .


Good summary of where things stand at present.
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