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Old November 20th 04, 04:12 AM
Miriling
 
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With the USCF ready to move its operations to Crossville, Tenn., and to work
with a local architect who has been hired to design the building that is to be
constructed on "free" land deeded to them by the city of Crossville, who in the
federation is/are knowledgeable enough to know whether the final design is
flawless?
Philip D. Elmore, the Crossville architect who is of the firm ArchiStructures
Inc., has the responsibility of designing the building. His company could be a
low-budget enterprise, since the company has no known company e-mail address,
no Web site, and its year of establishment is not given and its labor
affiliation is unknown. The company does, however, have a phone and a fax
number.
Mr. Elmore is a member of the American Institute of Architects, but other than
that, hardly anything is known of his past work. He is also a member of the
Crossville-Cumberland Chamber of Commerce, which has a vested interest in the
relocation of the USCF office in Crossville. It is hoped that the USCF
Executive Board received the history of Mr. Elmore's past building designs and
will call upon USCF members with expertise in architecture to evaluate the
design submitted by Mr. Elmore.

George Mirijanian
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Old November 20th 04, 04:34 AM
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Don't worry about a thing, George. Just in case Mr. Elmore doesn't work
out, there is a back-up architect ready to step in. That would be Mr. Elmo
Fundderbumper, noted designer of corn cribs, smoke houses, BBQ pits, likker
stills, and lynching gallows. He can whup together a chess HQ building faster
than you can say "white lightning." Mr. Fundderbumper even designed the body
incinerator for Crossville's world famous Rotgut Clinic. It worked fine until
Mr. Fundderbumper's other creation, the Roaring Fork dam broke and caused a big
flood that snuffed out the incinerator this past spring and scattered dead
bodies all over the place.

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Old November 20th 04, 04:43 AM
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"Miriling" wrote in message
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With the USCF ready to move its operations to Crossville, Tenn., and to
work
with a local architect who has been hired to design the building that is
to be
constructed on "free" land deeded to them by the city of Crossville, who
in the
federation is/are knowledgeable enough to know whether the final design is
flawless?


Having been involved in multiple construction projects on the owner side,
with values over $1 million, I am pleased to inform you that administering
this type of project requires attention to detail and common sense in
sufficient measure, but that previous experience and expertise, while
useful, is not necessary (in the strong sense of the word). On the other
hand, there is no such thing as a flawless design, and applying that as a
standard of success is merely setting up the expectation of complaining
later. One of the ways to gain additional eyes to review the plans to to
solicit and listen to the input of the contractors, not merely asking for
their bids.


Philip D. Elmore, the Crossville architect who is of the firm
ArchiStructures
Inc., has the responsibility of designing the building. His company could
be a
low-budget enterprise, since the company has no known company e-mail
address,
no Web site, and its year of establishment is not given and its labor
affiliation is unknown. The company does, however, have a phone and a fax
number.


Did you try http://www.archistructures.com/ ? There is a stub webpage there
with an email address: . If you search google, you
will find multiple references to the company. I don't know how far west the
labor affiliation factor goes; it may not be an issue in TN at all.

Mr. Elmore is a member of the American Institute of Architects, but other
than
that, hardly anything is known of his past work. He is also a member of
the
Crossville-Cumberland Chamber of Commerce, which has a vested interest in
the
relocation of the USCF office in Crossville. It is hoped that the USCF
Executive Board received the history of Mr. Elmore's past building designs
and
will call upon USCF members with expertise in architecture to evaluate the
design submitted by Mr. Elmore.


Given that the M-B title for the INTP personality type is "architect," I
would be surprised if the profession is absent from our ranks.

David


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without the block


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Old November 20th 04, 05:12 AM
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"David" writes:

Given that the M-B title for the INTP personality type is "architect," I
would be surprised if the profession is absent from our ranks.


Surely people know that a member of our Executive Board is an architect?

I met with Mr. Elmore in August of 2003, he has designed and built
quite a few office buildings in Cumberland County and the surrounding
area. His credentials are more than adequate.

Not that much expertise is required on the client's (USCF's) part to
design a new building. You take your organizational chart and apply square
footage 'budgets' to it to figure out how much of what kinds of space
you need and you let the architect figure out the technical aspects and
remind you about the things you may have missed asking for, like
bathrooms, a staff lounge, coat closets, adequate storage space, etc.
Not that I expect the USCF to forget to ask for any of those.

More haggling usually takes place over aesthetical and political
considerations (who gets a window, who has to be by the front door, etc.)
than anything else, and that doesn't take building or design expertise.
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Old November 20th 04, 04:13 PM
Mike Murray
 
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On Fri, 19 Nov 2004 22:37:04 -0800, "Tom Klem"
wrote:

Sorry to be stomping on your parade so much lately, but you've obviously
never heard of Owner's Arrangements.

Where do the phones, computers, bathrooms, Cat 5 wiring,


Cat 5? How 1999. :-)

mux closet, yada
yada yada ... go, is the bane and bailiwick of the Construction Manager in
charge of Owner's Arrangements. The OA guy, works _very_ closely with the
Architects.


Anyone who simply turns over an org chart to an architect gets what he
deserves. A mess.


On the other hand, the USCF office requirements don't seem all that
unusual. It's hard to see how a conventionally well-designed
commercial office building would cause us major problems, if we have
good management. Good light. Good air. Some quiet places. People
are adaptable and requirements of an evolving organization are
unpredictable.

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Old November 20th 04, 06:14 PM
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HAASpittle wrote:
Don't worry about a thing, George. Just in case Mr. Elmore
doesn't work out, there is a back-up architect ready to step in.
That would be Mr. Elmo Fundderbumper, noted designer of corn cribs,
smoke houses, BBQ pits, likker stills, and lynching gallows. He can
whup together a chess HQ building faster than you can say "white
lightning." Mr. Fundderbumper even designed the body incinerator for
Crossville's world famous Rotgut Clinic. It worked fine until Mr.
Fundderbumper's other creation, the Roaring Fork dam broke and caused
a big flood that snuffed out the incinerator this past spring and
scattered dead bodies all over the place.

Do us all a favor, stick to flogging the Mensa plan and leave redneck
humor to Jeff Foxworthy and his associates.


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Old November 20th 04, 10:32 PM
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" Do us all a favor, stick to flogging the Mensa plan and leave redneck
humor to Jeff Foxworthy and his associates." (George)
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Awww shucks, George. Crossville is so Lil' Abner, I just can't contain
myself.

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