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Old March 20th 05, 09:49 PM
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Mr. Bauer, didn't the executive board muzzle Booz? Does he speak for
this executive board? Why does he have so much to say about everything?
How does he know the inside information? Why do the executive board
members allow Booz to attack USCF members and other board members? If
not, why is he not muzzled? Do you condone his obnoxious behavior? Is
he the official pitbull of the folks in power? Can you confirm this?
Thanks in advance!

CS

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Old March 20th 05, 09:53 PM
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CS wrote:
Mr. Bauer, didn't the executive board muzzle Booz? Does he speak for
this executive board? Why does he have so much to say about
everything? How does he know the inside information? Why do the
executive board members allow Booz to attack USCF members and other
board members? If not, why is he not muzzled? Do you condone his
obnoxious behavior? Is he the official pitbull of the folks in power?
Can you confirm this? Thanks in advance!

Why does the other side not muzzle Sloan?


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Old March 20th 05, 10:33 PM
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"CS" wrote in message
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Mr. Bauer, didn't the executive board muzzle Booz? Does he speak for
this executive board? Why does he have so much to say about everything?
How does he know the inside information? Why do the executive board
members allow Booz to attack USCF members and other board members? If
not, why is he not muzzled? Do you condone his obnoxious behavior? Is
he the official pitbull of the folks in power? Can you confirm this?
Thanks in advance!

CS


Stan Booz is a USCF member, an active tournament player, and a volunteer who
provides his expertise as a CPA to the USCF in a variety of ways. I greatly
value his professional expertise and appreciate his guidance on a number of
financial issues.

That said, Stan is free to speak his mind on these newsgroups and is no
different than anybody else. At least he puts his USCF dues money where his
mouth is, which is quite a bit different than others who post nearly as
often (or at least are much more wordy). I have NEVER, EVER seen Stan post
in a way that suggests he is speaking for the executive board. Stan speaks
for Stan, and he has the "give em hell, Harry" approach of Harry Truman.
It's a free country.

Randy Bauer


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Old March 20th 05, 10:39 PM
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Very well put. Agree 100%.

"Randy Bauer" wrote

That said, Stan is free to speak his mind on these newsgroups and is no
different than anybody else. At least he puts his USCF dues money where
his mouth is, which is quite a bit different than others who post nearly
as often (or at least are much more wordy). I have NEVER, EVER seen Stan
post in a way that suggests he is speaking for the executive board. Stan
speaks for Stan, and he has the "give em hell, Harry" approach of Harry
Truman. It's a free country.

Randy Bauer



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"Doom & Gloom Dave" wrote in message
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CS wrote:
Mr. Bauer, didn't the executive board muzzle Booz? Does he speak for
this executive board? Why does he have so much to say about
everything? How does he know the inside information? Why do the
executive board members allow Booz to attack USCF members and other
board members? If not, why is he not muzzled? Do you condone his
obnoxious behavior? Is he the official pitbull of the folks in power?
Can you confirm this? Thanks in advance!

Why does the other side not muzzle Sloan?



Un, I dun-no? Dogs everywhere would be insulted??





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Old March 21st 05, 12:32 PM
 
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Randy Bauer said:

"That said, Stan is free to speak his mind on these newsgroups and is
no
different than anybody else. At least he puts his USCF dues money
where his
mouth is, which is quite a bit different than others who post nearly as

often (or at least are much more wordy). I have NEVER, EVER seen Stan
post
in a way that suggests he is speaking for the executive board. Stan
speaks
for Stan, and he has the "give em hell, Harry" approach of Harry
Truman.
It's a free country.'
Randy Bauer

If the above is what you truly believe Randy, explain how this equates
to your vote on recent Board Motion EB 05-33?

To help here is a copy of that motion:

EB 05-33 (Hanke): The EB will send a letter to the CO-chair of the
Finance Committee Stan Booz asking him to cease and desist from
personal attacks on the Internet. PASSED 5 -2. In favor: Bauer, Brady,
Schultz; Opposed: Shaughnessy; Abstaining: Marinello, Shutt and Hanke.

Reconcile this with what you just said on the Internet - the
"NEVER-NEVER-GIVE-EM-HELL, HARRY" free country statement ?

But then, only minutes later, you apparently had second
thoughts, so you made motion EB 05-34. Here is that motion:

EB 05-34 (Bauer) Moved to reconsiderEB 05-33. PASSED 5-2. In Favor:
Marinello, Shutt, Hanke, Bauer and Shaughnessy. Opposed: Brady and
Schultz.

Had you changed your mind?

Well no, you voted the same way on EB 05-33 as you did the first time.
Twice you voted to officially request by letter that Stan cease and
desist from personal attacks on the Internet.
Here it is the second time:

EB 05-33 Reconsidered: The EB will send a letter to the CO-chair of the
Finance Committee Stan Booz asking him to cease and desist from
personal attacks on the Internet. Failed 3-3-1 In Favor: Schultz, Brady
and Bauer; Opposed: Marinello, Hanke and Shaughnessy; Abstaining:
Shutt.

Methinks your voting record here is inconsistent with your
Never-Never-Give-Em-Hell-Harry posting above.

I'm interested to see how you spin this away but your pretty good at
this so we shall see.

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Old March 21st 05, 01:28 PM
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This means if Don doesn't like the truth he can recharactarize it as a
personal attack. Of course it is quite acceptable for Don to make personal
attacks via the vehicle of a board motion.

wrote in message
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Randy Bauer said:

"That said, Stan is free to speak his mind on these newsgroups and is
no
different than anybody else. At least he puts his USCF dues money
where his
mouth is, which is quite a bit different than others who post nearly as

often (or at least are much more wordy). I have NEVER, EVER seen Stan
post
in a way that suggests he is speaking for the executive board. Stan
speaks
for Stan, and he has the "give em hell, Harry" approach of Harry
Truman.
It's a free country.'
Randy Bauer

If the above is what you truly believe Randy, explain how this equates
to your vote on recent Board Motion EB 05-33?

To help here is a copy of that motion:

EB 05-33 (Hanke): The EB will send a letter to the CO-chair of the
Finance Committee Stan Booz asking him to cease and desist from
personal attacks on the Internet. PASSED 5 -2. In favor: Bauer, Brady,
Schultz; Opposed: Shaughnessy; Abstaining: Marinello, Shutt and Hanke.

Reconcile this with what you just said on the Internet - the
"NEVER-NEVER-GIVE-EM-HELL, HARRY" free country statement ?

But then, only minutes later, you apparently had second
thoughts, so you made motion EB 05-34. Here is that motion:

EB 05-34 (Bauer) Moved to reconsiderEB 05-33. PASSED 5-2. In Favor:
Marinello, Shutt, Hanke, Bauer and Shaughnessy. Opposed: Brady and
Schultz.

Had you changed your mind?

Well no, you voted the same way on EB 05-33 as you did the first time.
Twice you voted to officially request by letter that Stan cease and
desist from personal attacks on the Internet.
Here it is the second time:

EB 05-33 Reconsidered: The EB will send a letter to the CO-chair of the
Finance Committee Stan Booz asking him to cease and desist from
personal attacks on the Internet. Failed 3-3-1 In Favor: Schultz, Brady
and Bauer; Opposed: Marinello, Hanke and Shaughnessy; Abstaining:
Shutt.

Methinks your voting record here is inconsistent with your
Never-Never-Give-Em-Hell-Harry posting above.

I'm interested to see how you spin this away but your pretty good at
this so we shall see.



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"StanB" wrote

This means if Don doesn't like the truth he can recharactarize it as a
personal attack. Of course it is quite acceptable for Don to make personal
attacks via the vehicle of a board motion.


That motion stinks to high heaven what is this the USSR? I make a motion
that they kiss your lilly white ass. Put that in your pipe and smoke it.


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Stan, please read it again, I made no motion. Tim Hanke made the
motion.

Don

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Old March 21st 05, 04:23 PM
 
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Doom and Gloom said:

Why does the other side not muzzle Sloan?

Freedom of speech.

By the same token, the administration can appoint what committee chairs
it wants. Stan is co-chair of Finance. If he attacks Board Members it
creates a hostile working environment. He shouldn't be surprised that
those he attacks will likely not support him for committee co-chairman.
But nothing happened because the Board majority want to keep Stan as
co-chair regardless of his attacks on minority Board members. C'est la
vie!

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