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None of these that were active were disclosed in Truong's bankruptcy
filing in 2007.

Florida Profit Corporation
PALM COAST MANAGEMENT AND PROFESSIONAL SERVICES, INC.
Filing Information
Document Number P98000049010
FEI Number NONE
Date Filed 05/29/1998
State FL
Status INACTIVE
Last Event ADMIN DISSOLUTION FOR ANNUAL REPORT
Event Date Filed 09/24/1999
Event Effective Date NONE
Principal Address
25 CARLSON LANE
PALM COAST FL 32137
Mailing Address
25 CARLSON LANE
PALM COAST FL 32137
Registered Agent Name & Address
TRUONG, HOAINHAN M
25 CARLSON LANE
PALM COAST FL 32137
Officer/Director Detail
Name & Address
NONE
Annual Reports
No Annual Reports Filed
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05/29/1998 -- Domestic Profit




Florida Profit Corporation
POLGAR CHESS, INC.
Filing Information
Document Number P02000036631
FEI Number 412037019
Date Filed 04/03/2002
State FL
Status ACTIVE
Principal Address
103-10 QUEENS BLVD
1C
FOREST HILLS NY 11375
Changed 04/12/2004
Mailing Address
6923 INDIANA AVE.
#154
LUBBOCK TX 79413
Changed 05/12/2008
Registered Agent Name & Address
TRUONG, HOAINHAN M
25 CARLSON LANE
PALM COAST FL 32137 US
Name Changed: 05/19/2003
Address Changed: 04/12/2004
Officer/Director Detail
Name & Address
Title D
POLGAR, SUSAN
6923 INDIANA AVE. #154
LUBBOCK TX 79413
Title CFO
TRUONG, HOAINHAN M
25 CARLSON LANE
PALM COAST FL 32137
Annual Reports
Report Year Filed Date
2006 03/20/2006
2007 01/29/2007
2008 05/12/2008


Florida Profit Corporation
INTERNATIONAL CHESS MARKETING, INC.
Filing Information
Document Number P02000058435
FEI Number 820566608
Date Filed 05/24/2002
State FL
Status ACTIVE
Principal Address
107-23 71ST RD., STE. #137
FOREST HILLS NY 11375
Mailing Address
6923 INDIANA AVENUE
SUITE #154
LUBBOCK TX 79413
Changed 05/12/2008
Registered Agent Name & Address
TRUOUG, MICHEL
25 CARLSON LANE
PALM COAST FL 32137 US
Name Changed: 05/12/2008
Address Changed: 05/12/2008
Officer/Director Detail
Name & Address
Title D
POLGAR, ZSUZSANNA
6923 INDIANA AVENUE, SUITE #154
LUBBOCK TX 79413
Title CEO
TRUONG, HOAINHAN M
25 CARLSON LANE
PALM COAST FL 32169
Annual Reports
Report Year Filed Date
2006 03/20/2006
2007 01/29/2007
2008 05/12/2008


Florida Profit Corporation
POLGAR CHESS, INC.
Filing Information
Document Number P02000036631
FEI Number 412037019
Date Filed 04/03/2002
State FL
Status ACTIVE
Principal Address
103-10 QUEENS BLVD
1C
FOREST HILLS NY 11375
Changed 04/12/2004
Mailing Address
6923 INDIANA AVE.
#154
LUBBOCK TX 79413
Changed 05/12/2008
Registered Agent Name & Address
TRUONG, HOAINHAN M
25 CARLSON LANE
PALM COAST FL 32137 US
Name Changed: 05/19/2003
Address Changed: 04/12/2004
Officer/Director Detail
Name & Address
Title D
POLGAR, SUSAN
6923 INDIANA AVE. #154
LUBBOCK TX 79413
Title CFO
TRUONG, HOAINHAN M
25 CARLSON LANE
PALM COAST FL 32137
Annual Reports
Report Year Filed Date
2006 03/20/2006
2007 01/29/2007
2008 05/12/2008



Florida Profit Corporation
INTERSTATE CHESS MARKETING, INC.
Filing Information
Document Number P02000058431
FEI Number 820566609
Date Filed 05/24/2002
State FL
Status ACTIVE
Principal Address
25 CARLSON LANE
PALM COAST FL 32137
Changed 03/20/2006
Mailing Address
6923 INDIANA AVE
#154
LUBBOCK TX 79413
Changed 05/12/2008
Registered Agent Name & Address
TRUONG, MICHEL
25 CARLSON LANE
PALM COAST FL 32137 US
Name Changed: 05/12/2008
Address Changed: 05/12/2008
Officer/Director Detail
Name & Address
Title D
POLGAR, ZSUZSANNA
6923 INDIANA AVE #154
LUBBOCK TX 79413
Title CEO
TRUONG, HOAINHAN M
25 CARLSON LANES
PALM COAST FL 32137
Annual Reports
Report Year Filed Date
2006 03/20/2006
2007 01/29/2007
2008 05/12/2008
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On Sun, 04 Jan 2009 18:50:44 GMT, "B. Lafferty"
wrote:

None of these that were active were disclosed in Truong's bankruptcy
filing in 2007.


Have the dogs of war sniffed out a few more buried bones?

What happens when one neglects to mention assets in a bankruptcy case
anyway
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Mike Murray wrote:
On Sun, 04 Jan 2009 18:50:44 GMT, "B. Lafferty"
wrote:

None of these that were active were disclosed in Truong's bankruptcy
filing in 2007.


Have the dogs of war sniffed out a few more buried bones?

What happens when one neglects to mention assets in a bankruptcy case
anyway


Stay tuned. We'll see what happens.
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On Jan 4, 2:54*pm, Mike Murray wrote:
On Sun, 04 Jan 2009 18:50:44 GMT, "B. Lafferty"
wrote:

None of these that were active were disclosed in Truong's bankruptcy
filing in 2007.


Have the dogs of war sniffed out a few more buried bones?

What happens when one neglects to mention assets in a bankruptcy case
anyway


P Innes, do you have an answer?
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On Jan 4, 5:19*pm, The Historian wrote:

None of these that were active were disclosed in Truong's bankruptcy
filing in 2007.


Have the dogs of war sniffed out a few more buried bones?


What happens when one neglects to mention assets in a bankruptcy case
anyway


P Innes, do you have an answer?



Dr. IMnes now seems to favor silence, and what
he calls "the rule of law". It seems like only
moments ago that the good doctor took a very
different stance-- that of attacking the accusers,
ad hominem style, and jabbering incessantly.

Even his old pal, Mr. Parr, has done a 180 here,
for the last time around his spiel was a near-
perfect match to the position favored by Mr.
Murray, but now LP is preaching "the rule of law"
thing.

Apparently, these ratpackers are very fickle
creatures, who flip-flop about, much like fish out
of water.


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The Historian wrote:
On Jan 4, 2:54 pm, Mike Murray wrote:
On Sun, 04 Jan 2009 18:50:44 GMT, "B. Lafferty"
wrote:

None of these that were active were disclosed in Truong's bankruptcy
filing in 2007.

Have the dogs of war sniffed out a few more buried bones?

What happens when one neglects to mention assets in a bankruptcy case
anyway


P Innes, do you have an answer?


Best that he not answer yet. We're still digging. Like Con Ed says,
"Dig we must."
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On Jan 4, 5:37*pm, help bot wrote:
On Jan 4, 5:19*pm, The Historian wrote:

None of these that were active were disclosed in Truong's bankruptcy
filing in 2007.


Have the dogs of war sniffed out a few more buried bones?


What happens when one neglects to mention assets in a bankruptcy case
anyway


P Innes, do you have an answer?


* Dr. IMnes now seems to favor silence, and what
he calls "the rule of law". * * It seems like only
moments ago that the good doctor took a very
different stance-- that of attacking the accusers,
ad hominem style, and jabbering incessantly.

* Even his old pal, Mr. Parr, has done a 180 here,
for the last time around his spiel was a near-
perfect match to the position favored by Mr.
Murray, but now LP is preaching "the rule of law"
thing.


2 posters admit their indifference to the rule of law, which they put
into inverted commas, as if it were not actually the means by which
society governs itself. Then they demand 'questions' and 'commentary'
about it.

Why not put on the armbands and come out?

Let's have justice in the street, 1930's style.


* Apparently, these ratpackers are very fickle
creatures, who flip-flop about, much like fish out
of water.



Greg Kennedy who does not have the balls to write his own name,
consorts with Brennen, a person of no known use nor quality, except a
s ballast possibly, to pretend-ask questions.

To answer them means to submit to their abuse - and to ask they way
they do means to in advance admit their condition - yet are they
themselves decent, even in the manner they raise the issue? So-called
laws!

They themselves are quite acclimated to this culture - which means, to
each other's vile appreciation of things.

USCF as I am to understand these clowns prefers felons, and those who
celebrate their interest publicly in under-age sex, than to bankrupts
[no felony]. Sign of the times! One should be declared, they say, and
the other should not.

That is their standard.

USCF have majority scholastic members, BTW, and any standards
regarding supervision of children, including setting those standards
at board level are strictly taboo topics here among a cast of half
dozen or 10 people who are denied possibility to write elsewhere -
since their opinions are refused by civilized people in moderated
forums.

They have truly hoisted their standard. But as to the Sloan, I have
not yet dealt with his duplicity this week, but I will. I will ask him
and chess players direct. If he refuses an interview as he did before,
I will publicize what he refuses to answer.

I merely note in passing that the Sloan lied twice this week and that
such people as Kingston, Brennan and Kennedy took up his plain-0face
lie. I rather thought his main card against the FSS is that someone
chancing in here would read that. Meanwhile the Sloan libels me and
Rob Mitchell in a week.

It rather depends on whom one lies about methinks. And that is the
size of USCF politics as we read here.

Phil Innes



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USCF as I am to understand these clowns prefers felons, and those who
celebrate their interest publicly in under-age sex, than to bankrupts
[no felony]. Sign of the times! One should be declared, they say, and
the other should not.


The one thing our Phil is good at is packing the maximum number of
lies and false imputations into a single paragraph.

Let's deconstruct the above paragraph, because it's a good example of
Phil's modus operandi.

(1) Phil falsely imputes that those who believe Truong and Polgar
should be accountable for their claims and behavior must therefore
favor the EB candidacy of Sam Sloan.

(2) Phil's little parenthetical "bankrupts [no felony]" falsely
implies that people are criticizing Truong for declaring bankruptcy,
rather than for presenting himself as a business whiz during his EB
campaign, while hiding his financial failures evidenced by TWICE
declaring bankruptcy in a relatively time-frame.

(3) Phil's little "[no felony]" also ignores the claims of several
posters that the last bankruptcy itself might not have been
straightforward and ethical. Several posters have claimed the
bankruptcy court is now investigating such complications as (1) hidden
assets, (2) hidden employment contract, (3) undeclared income.

Putting the question another way, what's worse: a custodial
interference felony for which time has been served OR ongoing and
undeclared unethical financial behavior?

(4) And it's ironic that Phil should prattle sanctimoniously about
"those who celebrate their interest publicly in under-age sex" while
defending one who, according to much evidence presented to multiple
courts of law, posted thousands of filthy and obscene comments in a
forum to which any child interested in reading about chess might
frequent.

Such is his standard, or lack of same.

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On Jan 4, 7:15*pm, Mike Murray wrote:

(1) Phil falsely imputes that those who believe Truong and Polgar
should be accountable for their claims and behavior must therefore
favor the EB candidacy of Sam Sloan.


Particularly ironic, since both Sloan and Polgar have dragged the USCF
into lawsuits that should never have been filed against it.

Wick
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On Jan 4, 8:15*pm, Mike Murray wrote:
Mike Murray 'deconstructs' his own paraphrases, based on what I said
were deliberate distortions from Kennedy and Bennan, and based on an
obvious lie from Sloan, now... we get


Putting the question another way, what's worse: *a custodial
interference felony for which time has been served OR ongoing and
undeclared unethical financial behavior? *


'Worse', asks Murray, leaving out the Sloan web-site content, as if
that's nothing to him. But let's not ask Mike Murray what's what,
let's allow the voters to assess what's what; and on the same
principle let's allow courts to determine law suits.

It's fascinating to observe the evasion of these two basic standards -
that people could decide who they want on a national board, and that
accusation is a synonym for conviction - rather than the evident
McCarthyism that it is. Shall we not say that such a philosophy is
frequently nothing more than hysterical, and an appeal to mob justice?

(4) And it's ironic that Phil should prattle sanctimoniously about
"those who celebrate their interest publicly in under-age sex" while
defending *one who, according to much evidence presented to multiple
courts of law, posted thousands of filthy and obscene comments in a
forum to which any child interested in reading about chess might
frequent.


Mike Murray here declares himself. He is willing to be judge of all
[as well as prosecutor too!] - but Judge Murray admits no rules of
evidence, nor acknowledges that the roles of prosecutor, judge and
jury too, are separated in our Western system.

Such is his standard, or lack of same.


Such indeed is my standard. Murray actually argues against the basic
standards of human society - to accuse he says above, and to accuse
much, is enough for him.

That is why standards are important in society - they are at least an
inhibition to mob justice, and the 'patriotic enthusiasm' of such as a
McCarthy.

Edward R. Murrow brought down McCarthy by pointing out his hectoring
and bullying approach and his court-like invigilations were actually
hysterical - and that is /not/ the basis of United States law, nor is
it respected in our society.

In the end it was discovered that there were not 100 commies in
government. There weren't any, no matter how much testimony was
presented, and how often and to how many.

That is the choice most people have actually made about these law
suits - to let a court sort them out, rather than agitators from their
soap-boxes close by the lynching tree.

Phil Innes
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