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Default Sam Sloan asked by WCF to investigate Chinese claim of inventionof modern chess

On Nov 30, 1:45*pm, world chess federation
wrote:
On Nov 30, 11:21*am, world chess federation



wrote:
We have a Chinese delegation wishing us to consider recognition of
China as inventor of modern chess. As an expert on these matters could
you research and if viable we would be willing to present recognition
to you at upcoming WCF World Chess Championships Dec 1-13 in Las
Vegas.


The claim is that modern chess was invented in China *circa 1426-1430
and presented by fleet delegation of Chines ambassador to Italians in
Venice and Florence in 1434 the queen was instead an admiral a tribute
to Zheng He the first to navigate around world 99 years before
Magellan! and so the increased moves represent ability to travel to
all corners of world. The bishop moves were the mandarins and eunuchs
advisors to Emperor opposites but both given increased powers under
new emperor *Zhu Zhangi. Supposedly the Chines brought as gifts
thousands of Mongolian slave girls *all who as concubines were
required to know how to play the new chess and were given as gifts or
sold at the Venice Quay of Slaves after which through 1495 32% of all
babies born in Venice were illegitimate of Chinese/Mongolian descent
as girls were slaves in homes where almost everyone had one at least
for child playmates or household chores.


The admiral modern chess game a tribute to Zhu Zhanji and Zheng he
first to go around the world 1421-1423 caught on fast *due to the
Chinese slave girrls in Italy and later *was called a queen instead of
Admiral. There is a rumor that Leonardo Da Vinci was illegitimate and
son of a Chinese slave girl relationship with Italian and that he did
some drawings *in late 15th century re the new Chinese modern chess
with Paccioli?


If you can document veracity, WCF would be willing to present
recognition * with your representing the Chinese for them here at Las
Vegas.


Now, 30-year-old research conducted by the late director of the
Leonardo Library, published by his son Francesco, suggests a
completely different scenario.

"Archival research has shown that there isn't any Caterina in Vinci or
nearby villages that can be linked to Ser Piero. The only Caterina in
Piero's life seems to be a slave girl who lived in the house of his
wealthy friend Vanni di Niccolo di Ser Vanni," Cianchi wrote.

Evidence for "the slave Caterina" comes from Vanni's newly discovered
will. The wealthy banker named his friend Ser Piero the executor of
his will, and left most of his estate to a religious order. He left
the slave girl to his wife Agnola and his Florentine house in via
Ghibellina to Ser Piero.


Too bad the WCF is so dishonest that they only quote a portion of the
story:

Da Vinci's mother was a slave, Italian study claims

The seemingly far-fetched theory that Leonardo da Vinci was of ARAB
DESCENT -- NOT CHINESE -- has been given new backing in a study,
published this week, that suggests his mother was a slave....

The study casts light on slavery in Renaissance Italy. At the
research's launch, Alessandro Vezzosi, a Da Vinci scholar and founder
of the Museo Ideale at Vinci, said: "A lot of well-to-do and prominent
families bought women from EASTERN EUROPE AND THE MIDDLE EAST --
again NOT FROM CHINA. The young girls were then baptised. The most
common names were Maria, Marta - and Caterina."

Last year, a study by an Italian academic of a fingerprint left by Da
Vinci found that it included a configuration normally only found among
ARABS" -- NOT CHINESE.
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Default Sam Sloan asked by WCF to investigate Chinese claim of inventionof modern chess

On Dec 5, 6:30*pm, Bobcat wrote:
On Nov 30, 1:45*pm, world chess federation



wrote:
On Nov 30, 11:21*am, world chess federation


wrote:
We have a Chinese delegation wishing us to consider recognition of
China as inventor of modern chess. As an expert on these matters could
you research and if viable we would be willing to present recognition
to you at upcoming WCF World Chess Championships Dec 1-13 in Las
Vegas.


The claim is that modern chess was invented in China *circa 1426-1430
and presented by fleet delegation of Chines ambassador to Italians in
Venice and Florence in 1434 the queen was instead an admiral a tribute
to Zheng He the first to navigate around world 99 years before
Magellan! and so the increased moves represent ability to travel to
all corners of world. The bishop moves were the mandarins and eunuchs
advisors to Emperor opposites but both given increased powers under
new emperor *Zhu Zhangi. Supposedly the Chines brought as gifts
thousands of Mongolian slave girls *all who as concubines were
required to know how to play the new chess and were given as gifts or
sold at the Venice Quay of Slaves after which through 1495 32% of all
babies born in Venice were illegitimate of Chinese/Mongolian descent
as girls were slaves in homes where almost everyone had one at least
for child playmates or household chores.


The admiral modern chess game a tribute to Zhu Zhanji and Zheng he
first to go around the world 1421-1423 caught on fast *due to the
Chinese slave girrls in Italy and later *was called a queen instead of
Admiral. There is a rumor that Leonardo Da Vinci was illegitimate and
son of a Chinese slave girl relationship with Italian and that he did
some drawings *in late 15th century re the new Chinese modern chess
with Paccioli?


If you can document veracity, WCF would be willing to present
recognition * with your representing the Chinese for them here at Las
Vegas.


Now, 30-year-old research conducted by the late director of the
Leonardo Library, published by his son Francesco, suggests a
completely different scenario.


"Archival research has shown that there isn't any Caterina in Vinci or
nearby villages that can be linked to Ser Piero. The only Caterina in
Piero's life seems to be a slave girl who lived in the house of his
wealthy friend Vanni di Niccolo di Ser Vanni," Cianchi wrote.


Evidence for "the slave Caterina" comes from Vanni's newly discovered
will. The wealthy banker named his friend Ser Piero the executor of
his will, and left most of his estate to a religious order. He left
the slave girl to his wife Agnola and his Florentine house in via
Ghibellina to Ser Piero.


Too bad the WCF is so dishonest that they only quote a portion of the
story:

Da Vinci's mother was a slave, Italian study claims

* *The seemingly far-fetched theory that Leonardo da Vinci was of ARAB
DESCENT -- NOT CHINESE -- has been given new backing in a study,
published this week, that suggests his mother was a slave....

The study casts light on slavery in Renaissance Italy. At the
research's launch, Alessandro Vezzosi, a Da Vinci scholar and founder
of the Museo Ideale at Vinci, said: "A lot of well-to-do and prominent
families bought women from *EASTERN EUROPE AND THE MIDDLE EAST --
again NOT FROM CHINA. The young girls were then baptised. The most
common names were Maria, Marta - and Caterina."

Last year, a study by an Italian academic of a fingerprint left by Da
Vinci found that it included a configuration normally only found among
ARABS" -- NOT CHINESE.


It was right after I made the last post that I started to smell
something rotten. It is one thing to misquote something but to
deliberately say that the article says that De Vinci's mother was an
Chinese Slave when the article says ARAB Slave stinks of someone
trying to re-write history with a distinctly Sino flavor so I looked
up the World Chess Federation. Surprise!!! It does not exist, rather
it exists as part of FIDE. And here is the corker:

"The FIDE Trainers' and FIDE Arbiters' Seminars are organized by
Singapore Chess Federation under the auspices of the World Chess
Federation and Asian Chess Federation and held in conjunction with
Commonwealth Open Chess Championships 2009.

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Default Sam Sloan asked by WCF to investigate Chinese claim of inventionof modern chess

On Dec 5, 8:09*pm, Bobcat wrote:
On Dec 5, 6:30*pm, Bobcat wrote:



On Nov 30, 1:45*pm, world chess federation


wrote:
On Nov 30, 11:21*am, world chess federation


wrote:
We have a Chinese delegation wishing us to consider recognition of
China as inventor of modern chess. As an expert on these matters could
you research and if viable we would be willing to present recognition
to you at upcoming WCF World Chess Championships Dec 1-13 in Las
Vegas.


The claim is that modern chess was invented in China *circa 1426-1430
and presented by fleet delegation of Chines ambassador to Italians in
Venice and Florence in 1434 the queen was instead an admiral a tribute
to Zheng He the first to navigate around world 99 years before
Magellan! and so the increased moves represent ability to travel to
all corners of world. The bishop moves were the mandarins and eunuchs
advisors to Emperor opposites but both given increased powers under
new emperor *Zhu Zhangi. Supposedly the Chines brought as gifts
thousands of Mongolian slave girls *all who as concubines were
required to know how to play the new chess and were given as gifts or
sold at the Venice Quay of Slaves after which through 1495 32% of all
babies born in Venice were illegitimate of Chinese/Mongolian descent
as girls were slaves in homes where almost everyone had one at least
for child playmates or household chores.


The admiral modern chess game a tribute to Zhu Zhanji and Zheng he
first to go around the world 1421-1423 caught on fast *due to the
Chinese slave girrls in Italy and later *was called a queen instead of
Admiral. There is a rumor that Leonardo Da Vinci was illegitimate and
son of a Chinese slave girl relationship with Italian and that he did
some drawings *in late 15th century re the new Chinese modern chess
with Paccioli?


If you can document veracity, WCF would be willing to present
recognition * with your representing the Chinese for them here at Las
Vegas.


Now, 30-year-old research conducted by the late director of the
Leonardo Library, published by his son Francesco, suggests a
completely different scenario.


"Archival research has shown that there isn't any Caterina in Vinci or
nearby villages that can be linked to Ser Piero. The only Caterina in
Piero's life seems to be a slave girl who lived in the house of his
wealthy friend Vanni di Niccolo di Ser Vanni," Cianchi wrote.


Evidence for "the slave Caterina" comes from Vanni's newly discovered
will. The wealthy banker named his friend Ser Piero the executor of
his will, and left most of his estate to a religious order. He left
the slave girl to his wife Agnola and his Florentine house in via
Ghibellina to Ser Piero.


Too bad the WCF is so dishonest that they only quote a portion of the
story:


Da Vinci's mother was a slave, Italian study claims


* *The seemingly far-fetched theory that Leonardo da Vinci was of ARAB
DESCENT -- NOT CHINESE -- has been given new backing in a study,
published this week, that suggests his mother was a slave....


The study casts light on slavery in Renaissance Italy. At the
research's launch, Alessandro Vezzosi, a Da Vinci scholar and founder
of the Museo Ideale at Vinci, said: "A lot of well-to-do and prominent
families bought women from *EASTERN EUROPE AND THE MIDDLE EAST --
again NOT FROM CHINA. The young girls were then baptised. The most
common names were Maria, Marta - and Caterina."


Last year, a study by an Italian academic of a fingerprint left by Da
Vinci found that it included a configuration normally only found among
ARABS" -- NOT CHINESE.


It was right after I made the last post that I started to smell
something rotten. It is one thing to misquote something but to
deliberately say that the article says that De Vinci's mother was an
Chinese Slave when the article says ARAB Slave stinks of someone
trying to re-write history with a distinctly Sino flavor so I looked
up the World Chess Federation. Surprise!!! It does not exist, rather
it exists as part of FIDE. And here is the corker:

*"The FIDE Trainers' and FIDE Arbiters' Seminars are organized by
Singapore Chess Federation under the auspices of the World *Chess
Federation and Asian Chess Federation and held in conjunction with
Commonwealth Open Chess Championships 2009.



I accidentally hit the send key......

Here is where it gets strange: FIDE means Fédération Internationale
des Échecs or the "International Chess Federation", which is what I
grew up knowing it as, but now it means: World Chess Federation. Are
FIDE and WCF one in the same or different?!? And if the same, then
what is FIDE doing asking Sam Sloan write on the History of Chess --
surly FIDE must know who he is and his rather dubious scholarship;
surly they would not consider him an "Expert" in anything other than
self promotion. That or FIDE has been taken over by the Asian Chess
Federation. If that is the case then FIDE is dead, as is the USCF,
both now too consumed by politics that benefits only a few at the
expense of many. While FIDE has always had a political bent this is
outright nonsense. And why ID itself as "The World Chess Federation"
and not FIDE?!? Most chess players have heard of FIDE, but how many
have heard of WCF?!? Something stinks here. Are we about to get
treated to another bout of FSS posts, only now call it FFIDE posts aka
WCF?

An inquiring mind wants to know who is behind this World Chess
Federation of these posts, and how does one contact them. I sure want
to find out WHY of all the scholars out there they would pick some
"scholastically challenged" person like Sam Sloan to write on the
History of Chess and ask him to investigate the claim that China is
inventor of modern chess. Then to deliberately post an article that Da
Vinci was the child of an Chinese slave when it clearly states he was
the child of an Arab slave.

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Default Sam Sloan asked by WCF to investigate Chinese claim of inventionof modern chess

On Dec 5, 11:45*pm, Bobcat wrote:
On Dec 5, 8:09*pm, Bobcat wrote:





On Dec 5, 6:30*pm, Bobcat wrote:


On Nov 30, 1:45*pm, world chess federation


wrote:
On Nov 30, 11:21*am, world chess federation


wrote:
We have a Chinese delegation wishing us to consider recognition of
China as inventor of modern chess. As an expert on these matters could
you research and if viable we would be willing to present recognition
to you at upcoming WCF World Chess Championships Dec 1-13 in Las
Vegas.


The claim is that modern chess was invented in China *circa 1426-1430
and presented by fleet delegation of Chines ambassador to Italians in
Venice and Florence in 1434 the queen was instead an admiral a tribute
to Zheng He the first to navigate around world 99 years before
Magellan! and so the increased moves represent ability to travel to
all corners of world. The bishop moves were the mandarins and eunuchs
advisors to Emperor opposites but both given increased powers under
new emperor *Zhu Zhangi. Supposedly the Chines brought as gifts
thousands of Mongolian slave girls *all who as concubines were
required to know how to play the new chess and were given as gifts or
sold at the Venice Quay of Slaves after which through 1495 32% of all
babies born in Venice were illegitimate of Chinese/Mongolian descent
as girls were slaves in homes where almost everyone had one at least
for child playmates or household chores.


The admiral modern chess game a tribute to Zhu Zhanji and Zheng he
first to go around the world 1421-1423 caught on fast *due to the
Chinese slave girrls in Italy and later *was called a queen instead of
Admiral. There is a rumor that Leonardo Da Vinci was illegitimate and
son of a Chinese slave girl relationship with Italian and that he did
some drawings *in late 15th century re the new Chinese modern chess
with Paccioli?


If you can document veracity, WCF would be willing to present
recognition * with your representing the Chinese for them here at Las
Vegas.


Now, 30-year-old research conducted by the late director of the
Leonardo Library, published by his son Francesco, suggests a
completely different scenario.


"Archival research has shown that there isn't any Caterina in Vinci or
nearby villages that can be linked to Ser Piero. The only Caterina in
Piero's life seems to be a slave girl who lived in the house of his
wealthy friend Vanni di Niccolo di Ser Vanni," Cianchi wrote.


Evidence for "the slave Caterina" comes from Vanni's newly discovered
will. The wealthy banker named his friend Ser Piero the executor of
his will, and left most of his estate to a religious order. He left
the slave girl to his wife Agnola and his Florentine house in via
Ghibellina to Ser Piero.


Too bad the WCF is so dishonest that they only quote a portion of the
story:


Da Vinci's mother was a slave, Italian study claims


* *The seemingly far-fetched theory that Leonardo da Vinci was of ARAB
DESCENT -- NOT CHINESE -- has been given new backing in a study,
published this week, that suggests his mother was a slave....


The study casts light on slavery in Renaissance Italy. At the
research's launch, Alessandro Vezzosi, a Da Vinci scholar and founder
of the Museo Ideale at Vinci, said: "A lot of well-to-do and prominent
families bought women from *EASTERN EUROPE AND THE MIDDLE EAST --
again NOT FROM CHINA. The young girls were then baptised. The most
common names were Maria, Marta - and Caterina."


Last year, a study by an Italian academic of a fingerprint left by Da
Vinci found that it included a configuration normally only found among
ARABS" -- NOT CHINESE.


It was right after I made the last post that I started to smell
something rotten. It is one thing to misquote something but to
deliberately say that the article says that De Vinci's mother was an
Chinese Slave when the article says ARAB Slave stinks of someone
trying to re-write history with a distinctly Sino flavor so I looked
up the World Chess Federation. Surprise!!! It does not exist, rather
it exists as part of FIDE. And here is the corker:


*"The FIDE Trainers' and FIDE Arbiters' Seminars are organized by
Singapore Chess Federation under the auspices of the World *Chess
Federation and Asian Chess Federation and held in conjunction with
Commonwealth Open Chess Championships 2009.


I accidentally hit the send key......

Here is where it gets strange: FIDE means Fédération Internationale
des Échecs or the "International Chess Federation", which is what I
grew up knowing it as, but now it means: World Chess Federation. Are
FIDE and WCF one in the same or different?!? And if the same, then
what is FIDE doing asking Sam Sloan write on the History of Chess --
surly FIDE must know who he is and his rather dubious scholarship;
surly they would not consider him an "Expert" in anything other than
self promotion. That or FIDE has been taken over by the Asian Chess
Federation. If that is the case then FIDE is dead, as is the USCF,
both now too consumed by politics that benefits only a few at the
expense of many. While FIDE has always had a political bent this is
outright nonsense. And why ID itself as "The World Chess Federation"
and not FIDE?!? Most chess players have heard of FIDE, but how many
have heard of WCF?!? Something stinks here. Are we about to get
treated to another bout of FSS posts, only now call it FFIDE posts aka
WCF?

An inquiring mind wants to know who is behind this World Chess
Federation of these posts, and how does one contact them. I sure want
to find out WHY of all the scholars out there they would pick some
"scholastically challenged" person like Sam Sloan to write on the
History of Chess and ask him to investigate the claim that China is
inventor of modern chess. Then to deliberately post an article that Da
Vinci was the child of an Chinese slave when it clearly states he was
the child of an Arab slave


FIDE and the WCF are two distinct organizations. FIDE was founded in
1924, and has been the major governing body for international chess
for many decades, handling Olympiads, World Championships, titles,
ratings, etc.
I can't find many definite facts about the WCF, but I believe it's
based in Las Vegas, and is mainly the creation of American organizer
Stan Vaughan. It lacks the general recognition given to FIDE. Here is
a video of a press conference in which Vaughan outline's the WCF's
differences with FIDE and its ambitious plans:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iWPr4ejCia8
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